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ngeo88
post Dec 17 2011, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Dec 17 2011, 10:11 PM)
What hole? I'm referring the potholes bro, not any hole at the steering rack.

U easily got "confused" with holes aa bro?
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QUOTE(abong8 @ Dec 17 2011, 10:31 PM)
U jack Ap your car.. Lay down from front.. Goyang that hydraulic shaft connected to the back of your front rotor.. It suppose to be damn fit and won't move.. Check both right & left..
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post Dec 17 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Dec 17 2011, 10:31 PM)
U jack up your car.. Lay down from front.. Goyang that hydraulic shaft connected to the back of your front rotor.. It suppose to be damn fit and won't move.. Check both right & left..
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The whole paragraph sound xxx in a way.... If edit a bit sure xxx liao...


Added on December 18, 2011, 12:01 am
QUOTE(abong8 @ Dec 17 2011, 10:31 PM)
U jack up your shaft.. Lay down facing front.. ur Gf Goyang that shaft connected to the ur front round bearing.. It suppose to be damn fit and won't move.. feel both right  & left..
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This post has been edited by Tanjacky: Dec 18 2011, 12:01 AM
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post Dec 18 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 17 2011, 10:38 PM)
which one... which is hydraulic shaft?
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U try and jack your car first, then ull definitely gonna see it..

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 17 2011, 07:59 PM)
Wat is ur review?


Added on December 17, 2011, 8:03 pm

Tats why i keep maintain 3k to 4k rpm..i knw cvt must maintain d rpm tat hit max torque.d car is worth to buy if dun mind tis is proton..d reverse camera at rear view mirror not bad.but too pity dun have auto dim fuction
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Hehe.. Just came back after going out for movie with chicks.. smile.gif..
Yeah my full review coming up.. Good for potential Exora buyers to read..

QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 17 2011, 09:11 PM)
really?  drool.gif once u lost control 1.5tan car sure can trash any sedan and hatchback at side  biggrin.gif
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lol.. Later roll like a bigger turtle.. hehe.. But since Exora got BCM (body control module), i wonder how will it perform when it comes to real life..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 17 2011, 09:29 PM)
exora cfe official brochure stated 0-100 onli need 11.3sec brows.gif but i wonder why i cant feel it so fast loh rclxub.gif but if its true,then the actual i think can do 9-10sec..since proton official figure always slower than result tat try by user..if tis engine put in persona,i think can do within 7-8sec leh thumbup.gif can cucuk golf 1.4 oledi..tis exora cfe can makan most of 2.0 NA car if the figure is true..next time c exora cfe need move aside let it pass oledi..haiz doh.gif
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erm the brouchere is 13.3 secs lah bro.. But when I tested it I can say can do around 11sec.. Using butt dyno testing..
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post Dec 18 2011, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 17 2011, 08:29 PM)
uiseh bro long time never seen u after the inaugural LYNPPC TT..
Been bz tongue.gif

how r u? when is next TT ;P
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post Dec 18 2011, 03:24 AM

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Here it goes.. My review of the Proton Exora Bold Premium CFE 1.6 CVT (Im not joking, its that long)

Went out this afternoon after seeing Samwong and Tanjacky all went to test drive the car ady.. Had nothing to do at home, so decided to go test the car.. Initially when I reached the showroom around 4.30pm I expected a huge crowd of ppl to be lining up for a test drive.. However the scarcity of ppl in the showroom proved me otherwise.
As usual there was a tent outside the SA with the new Exora Bold and Saga FLX both in the same color and full with decals outside the showroom ready for a test drive.. So wasting no time, I went ahead to inspect the Exora Bold in the showroom. After looking in the engine bay and making out where the 'huge' turbo (barely bigger than my palm) was suppose to be, I proceeded for a test drive.

Initial impression, dashboard have a design that requires and acquired taste, however that design do make the dashboard feel a bit premium compared to a flat slab of cheap plastic like those in the Satria Neo. rolleyes.gif Audio system is decent, a dual din that has nothing to shout about, a well located transmission stick, probably located within grabbing distance and not as part of the dash as in the Myvi. Dashboard doesn’t sound hollow when knocked, and the seats good and supportive, just not as body hugging like a Persona. Then comes my favourite part, a steering wheel that feels as good as it looks. Its thicker and slightly softer than the PE, with button designs that doesn’t look like an afterthought compared to PE. Button feels however less premium and tactile, but that can be overlooked considering the easy to remember layout and button size. thumbup.gif

Putting it in reverse activates the screen for the reverse camera, the same like what they have in the Kia Sportage, but resolution seems to be a bit lower and the screen a tad overwashed with brightness compared to the Kia’s. Nevertheless it cant be used as a replacement for airheads who cant park, but merely as a view of the back to look out for high kerb and prevent from mowing down reckless kids or ur cat who was hiding from u.
Now comes to the best part, the thrashing part. My car had a mileage of 220km on the odo, perfect fresh engine that just lost its virginity and gained a master in horniness. I brought it out for 46km of sexual intercourse to satisfy my inquisitiveness of the new car. Throttle lag was inherently there, but barely noticeable, however the fact that the CVT transmission have the ‘rubber-band’ effect amplified the feel that the pedal was laggy. After a few km of getting used to it, the best way to pedal the car is to increase throttle very gradually in the start and accelerate after the CVT spins back into harmony. nod.gif

ACCELERATION WAS ZOMG! shocking.gif Not Caldina 2.0 GT-Four awesome, but for a 1.6L Campro reknown for having an affair with high end HP and forgetting its torque at home, this certainly makes u rewrite ur good books bout the campro engine. Low end torque generously rushed in at a low 2k RPM and the car just kept on accelerating forward like it was a Persona. Driving position felt very sedan like except for the high POV, and having generous amount of space in the cabin extends credibility to its size advantage compared to other MPV. The car accelerates out of corners and traffic light stops at a nice good pace (faster than PE) all the while just maintaining engine speed at between 2k-2.3k RPM. The engine only kicks into higher rev when u push it hard, however high end power seems a bit lacking as the acceleration is not so willing towards the high end range when ur engine speed goes beyond 5k RPM boundaries. It seems like the turbo was suffering from lack of breath and the car felt like it was sprinting compared to jogging when the powerband used was between 2-4k RPM. This is a feeling similar to Evo III engines with TD04 turbines doh.gif , the power just runs out when the RPM goes into drag racing 5k-6.5k RPM range. No matter how hard I pushed the car I wasn’t able to get it to 6k RPM. Weird. Highest ever was 5.5k RPM and it stayed there. At one point of exiting the highway I took a sweeping near 360˚ roundabout at around 90kmh. Now that speed is nothing to shout about, but do that in an MPV taller than most Asians, trust me, my mom was screaming and the SA at back never appreciated her life more before that turn. Personally that same corner a Veilfire would have lost out in stability and grip as the tires on the Veilfire was screeching like cats in hot soup when speed was just touching 80kmh. Bravo Lotus R&H. thumbup.gif

Highway cruising was effortless. I barely noticed the speed on highway while travelling at around 150kmh. The fastest I was able to touch was 160kmh, thanks to moderate traffic trying to tailgate me at every opportunity I presented then when I was testing it at cruising speed (110kmh). Happy to say that Dugongs and Turtles never stood a chance whenever I accelerated away from them as they tailgated me. whistling.gif Driving an Exora Bold like a boss on the highway(thanks to the better tagline “More power, more style”) was awesome as it made u look like a celebrity, everybody tried to come closer to take a look. NVH was very good, can dare say almost on par with previous generation Alphard and better than Toyota Innova. Doors close with a solid thump, there wasn’t rattling noise coming from seats or dashboards, but the enormous wall mirrors they put as the side mirror of the car did cause some wind noise at high speed above 130kmh. All round visibility was good and A pillars didn’t obstruct much of the corner of a junction. Insulation now feels like a premium Japanese sedan. rclxm9.gif

Coming to the brakes, the brake pump in the Exora Bold can say its bigger than a PE front disc brakes. While doing the road test, the brakes were put to good use thanks to idiots under estimating the power of 1.6 CFE engine and stayed on the speed lane. The brakes felt very nice and progressive and bite was bone clenching. Much better than our beloved PE. When u are braking from a high speed to a complete stop there was a discernible change in braking power, as u slowed down to a stage, the braking power improved, possibly due to the EBD working, or some wizardry going on to eliminate the annoying KRUK KRUK sound when u release ur brakes gently while being in D. I tried it a few times and noticed that the KRUK KRUK sound could not be replicated no matter how gently I released the brake pedal. Seems like 1 more problem ticked off from the PE problems list.
Seems like I have covered most of the main bases for the car. Feel free to ask me anything if u are planning to buy an Exora Bold thanks to ur condom-less orgy last saturday night. For a car that cost below RM80k, and factoring discounts u might probably get when they start delivering the car next year, its certainly the best MPV in its class. Period. cool.gif


Added on December 18, 2011, 3:30 am
QUOTE(ITmaniac @ Dec 18 2011, 02:52 AM)
Been bz

how r u? when is next TT
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Fine.. lol.. next TT probably after christmas and before New year.. TT at Rampai Business Park.

This post has been edited by ZenGTMM: Dec 18 2011, 03:30 AM
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post Dec 18 2011, 04:09 AM

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QUOTE(abong8 @ Dec 18 2011, 12:28 AM)
U try and jack your car first, then ull definitely gonna see it..
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not the antiroll bar is it? ball joint area there?


Added on December 18, 2011, 4:23 am
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 18 2011, 03:24 AM)
Here it goes.. My review of the Proton Exora Bold Premium CFE 1.6 CVT (Im not joking, its that long)

      Went out this afternoon after seeing Samwong and Tanjacky all went to test drive the car ady.. Had nothing to do at home, so decided to go test the car.. Initially when I reached the showroom around 4.30pm I expected a huge crowd of ppl to be lining up for a test drive.. However the scarcity of ppl in the showroom proved me otherwise.
        As usual there was a tent outside the SA with the new Exora Bold and Saga FLX both in the same color and full with decals outside the showroom ready for a test drive.. So wasting no time, I went ahead to inspect the Exora Bold in the showroom. After looking in the engine bay and making out where the 'huge' turbo (barely bigger than my palm) was suppose to be, I proceeded for a test drive.

      Initial impression, dashboard have a design that requires and acquired taste, however that design do make the dashboard feel a bit premium compared to a flat slab of cheap plastic like those in the Satria Neo. rolleyes.gif  Audio system is decent, a dual din that has nothing to shout about, a well located transmission stick, probably located within grabbing distance and not as part of the dash as in the Myvi. Dashboard doesn’t sound hollow when knocked, and the seats good and supportive, just not as body hugging like a Persona.  Then comes my favourite part, a steering wheel that feels as good as it looks. Its thicker and slightly softer than the PE, with button designs that doesn’t look like an afterthought compared to PE. Button feels however less premium and tactile, but that can be overlooked considering the easy to remember layout and button size.  thumbup.gif

    Putting it in reverse activates the screen for the reverse camera, the same like what they have in the Kia Sportage, but resolution seems to be a bit lower and the screen a tad overwashed with brightness compared to the Kia’s. Nevertheless it cant be used as a replacement for airheads who cant park, but merely as a view of the back to look out for high kerb and prevent from mowing down reckless kids or ur cat who was hiding from u. 
Now comes to the best part, the thrashing part. My car had a mileage of 220km on the odo, perfect fresh engine that just lost its virginity and gained a master in horniness. I brought it out for 46km of sexual intercourse to satisfy my inquisitiveness of the new car. Throttle lag was inherently there, but barely noticeable, however the fact that the CVT transmission have the ‘rubber-band’ effect amplified the feel that the pedal was laggy. After a few km of getting used to it, the best way to pedal the car is to increase throttle very gradually in the start and accelerate after the CVT spins back into harmony.  nod.gif

      ACCELERATION WAS ZOMG! shocking.gif  Not Caldina 2.0 GT-Four  awesome, but for a 1.6L Campro reknown for having an affair with high end HP and forgetting its torque at home, this certainly makes u rewrite ur good books bout the campro engine. Low end torque generously rushed in at a low 2k RPM and the car just kept on accelerating forward like it was a Persona. Driving position felt very sedan like except for the high POV, and having generous amount of space in the cabin extends credibility to its size advantage compared to other MPV. The car accelerates out of corners and traffic light stops at a nice good pace (faster than PE) all the while just maintaining engine speed at between 2k-2.3k RPM. The engine only kicks into higher rev when u push it hard, however high end power seems a bit lacking as the acceleration is not so willing towards the high end range when ur engine speed goes beyond 5k RPM boundaries. It seems like the turbo was suffering from lack of breath and the car felt like it was sprinting compared to jogging when the powerband used was between 2-4k RPM. This is a feeling similar to Evo III engines with TD04 turbines  doh.gif , the power just runs out when the RPM goes into drag racing 5k-6.5k RPM range. No matter how hard I pushed the car I wasn’t able to get it to 6k RPM. Weird. Highest ever was 5.5k RPM and it stayed there.  At one point of exiting the highway I took a sweeping near 360˚ roundabout at around 90kmh. Now that speed is nothing to shout about, but do that in an MPV taller than most Asians, trust me, my mom was screaming and the SA at back never appreciated her life more before that turn. Personally that same corner a Veilfire would have lost out in stability and grip as the tires on the Veilfire was screeching like cats in hot soup when speed was just touching 80kmh. Bravo Lotus R&H.  thumbup.gif

      Highway cruising was effortless.  I barely noticed the speed on highway while travelling at around 150kmh. The fastest I was able to touch was 160kmh, thanks to moderate traffic trying to tailgate me at every opportunity I presented then when I was testing it at cruising speed (110kmh). Happy to say that Dugongs and Turtles never stood a chance whenever I accelerated away from them as they tailgated me. whistling.gif  Driving an Exora Bold like a boss on the highway(thanks to the better tagline “More power, more style”) was awesome as it made u look like a celebrity, everybody tried to come closer to take a look. NVH was very good, can dare say almost on par with previous generation Alphard and better than Toyota Innova. Doors close with a solid thump, there wasn’t rattling noise coming from seats or dashboards, but the enormous wall mirrors they put as the side mirror of the car did cause some wind noise at high speed above 130kmh. All round visibility was good and A pillars didn’t obstruct much of the corner of a junction. Insulation now feels like a premium Japanese sedan.  rclxm9.gif

      Coming to the brakes, the brake pump in the Exora Bold can say its bigger than a PE front disc brakes. While doing the road test, the brakes were put to good use thanks to idiots under estimating the power of 1.6 CFE engine and stayed on the speed lane. The brakes felt very nice and progressive and bite was bone clenching. Much better than our beloved PE. When u are braking from a high speed to a complete stop there was a discernible change in braking power, as u slowed down to a stage, the braking power improved, possibly due to the EBD working, or some wizardry going on to eliminate the annoying KRUK KRUK sound when u release ur brakes gently while being in D. I tried it a few times and noticed that the KRUK KRUK sound could not be replicated no matter how gently I released the brake pedal. Seems like 1 more problem ticked off from the PE problems list.
Seems like I have covered most of the main bases for the car. Feel free to ask me anything if u are planning to buy an Exora Bold thanks to ur condom-less orgy last saturday night. For a car that cost below RM80k, and factoring discounts u might probably get when they start delivering the car next year, its certainly the best MPV in its class. Period.  cool.gif


Added on December 18, 2011, 3:30 am
Fine.. lol.. next TT probably after christmas and before New year.. TT at Rampai Business Park.
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thumbup.gif good commentor...

This post has been edited by jackyap84: Dec 18 2011, 04:23 AM
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:54 AM

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Zeng,tat why i said exora handling better than persona.onli d rpm cant rev easily after 5k .i think proton set d power at low n mid end lo.160 easily to reach than pe?proton oledi change from 13.3sec to 11.3sec..160 nvh oso much better than pe n other proton,rite?
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 18 2011, 09:54 AM)
Zeng,tat why i said exora handling better than persona.onli d rpm cant rev easily after 5k .i think proton set d power at low n mid end lo.160 easily to reach than pe?proton oledi change from 13.3sec to 11.3sec..160 nvh oso much better than pe n other proton,rite?
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Mod to 4-1 lo... brows.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 18 2011, 09:54 AM)
Zeng,tat why i said exora handling better than persona.onli d rpm cant rev easily after 5k .i think proton set d power at low n mid end lo.160 easily to reach than pe?proton oledi change from 13.3sec to 11.3sec..160 nvh oso much better than pe n other proton,rite?
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Exora better than PE?
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post Dec 18 2011, 12:04 PM

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Out of topic........



Loving my PE more n more........ biggrin.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 18 2011, 11:31 AM)
Exora better than PE?
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PE gonna tapao by exora already.. cry.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 18 2011, 04:09 AM)
not the antiroll bar is it? ball joint area there?
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No.

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post Dec 18 2011, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 18 2011, 12:59 PM)
PE gonna tapao by exora already..  cry.gif
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lets go bulk turbo kit..get a supercharge or small turbo like the exora cfe..just to get higher torque at low and mid rpm..perfect getaway/ to pull away from car behind in jam...
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QUOTE(raimy_m9 @ Dec 18 2011, 02:29 PM)
lets go bulk turbo kit..get a supercharge or small turbo  like the exora cfe..just to get higher torque at low and mid rpm..perfect getaway/ to pull away from car behind in jam...
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post Dec 18 2011, 02:01 PM

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uz test again exora cfe today..i juz comment here about the power and handling here..based of the video tat i snap,from0-100,i rev maintain 3k to 4k rpm wit SAT on,can hit 0-100 around 13sec wit aircond off..in D drive mode,from 0-100 can hit around 11sec wit SAT OFF(no record video,based on butt feeling)and aircond off too..from 50-140 onli need around 19sec(with SAT off) wit aircond on..i manage hit 150kmh during test drive..and the SA oso got fetch me to test the abs and handling..he drove to 100kmh and direct full press the brake pedal and abs kick in..the car still damn stable and juz need short distance to stop the car..he oso constant drive 70kmh and do the cornering like snake..i can feel the car body roll still under control and quite stable..after v go test top speed again..tis time can hit 160kmh..but from 120-160 actuali the feel quite same as PE(if v reali press hard too)..i oso test drove the saga flx 1.6 cvt..the power totally same as exora cfe even saga dun have turbo(bcoz of light body)..i manage can hit 160kmh(same distance as i test exora cfe onli can hit 150kmh)..as highlighted,the exora cfe was use GT radial tyre..

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post Dec 18 2011, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 18 2011, 04:09 AM)
not the antiroll bar is it? ball joint area there?


Added on December 18, 2011, 4:23 am

thumbup.gif good commentor...
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Nobody spamming the wall.. Now i can lay claim to provide the first review of the Proton Exora Bold Premium CFE 1.6 CVT on the internet.. Anything that seems similar in other review website is a copy of my article. brows.gif

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 18 2011, 09:54 AM)
Zeng,tat why i said exora handling better than persona.onli d rpm cant rev easily after 5k .i think proton set d power at low n mid end lo.160 easily to reach than pe?proton oledi change from 13.3sec to 11.3sec..160 nvh oso much better than pe n other proton,rite?
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handling wise I think PE still better, Exora have a lot more body roll.. And thanks to the big side windows u think u are going to fall out of the car.. But what I see is that the body roll is controlled by some active body control module.. So it seems that something special is going on somewhere around to control it. Oh no wonder i can reach around 11secs when doing 0-100.. I think they retune the ECU before launch, decreasing FC and reduce acceleration time.

QUOTE(K.Lee @ Dec 18 2011, 11:14 AM)
Mod to 4-1 lo... brows.gif
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I think i want 4-2-1, even more pickup, tapau PE.. hehe..

QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Dec 18 2011, 11:31 AM)
Exora better than PE?
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In size and power and stability in straight line and and power steering feel and braking power and comfort yes..

QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Dec 18 2011, 12:59 PM)
PE gonna tapao by exora already..  cry.gif
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Nope we still wont get tapau yet, but we have to accelerate like petrol is free to overtake one..

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 18 2011, 02:01 PM)
uz test again exora cfe today..i juz comment here about the power and handling here..from0-100,i rev maintain 3k to 4k rpm wit SAT on,can hit 0-100 around 13sec wit aircond off..in D drive mode,from 0-100 can hit around 11sec(wit SAT off) wit aircond off too..from 50-140 onli need around 19sec(with SAT off) wit aircond on..i manage hit 150kmh during test drive..and the SA oso got fetch me to test the abs and handling..he drove to 100kmh and direct full press the brake pedal and abs kick in..the car still damn stable and juz need short distance to stop the car..he oso constant drive 70kmh and do the cornering like snake..i can feel the car body roll still under control and quite stable..after v go test top speed again..tis time can hit 160kmh..but from 120-160 actuali the feel quite same as PE(if v reali press hard too)..i oso test drove the saga flx 1.6 cvt..the power totally same as exora cfe even saga dun have turbo(bcoz of light body)..i manage can hit 160kmh(same distance as i test exora cfe onli can hit 150kmh)..as highlighted,the exora cfe was use GT radial tyre..
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I also feel the SAT mode very dumb.. Might as well leave it off, when the SAT is on it seems like its confused which gear it should be in and what RPM it needs to be, it just keep on changing RPM. Now I feel my car really needs ABS and EBD ady.. cry.gif


Added on December 18, 2011, 2:29 pmAnd one more thing i found out.. Inspira is going for lelong like no man's business..

All inspira going for RM8k discount.. The manual one priced at 78k, after 8k discount only cost less than 70k.. OMG.. I felt like booking one on the spot ady.. 1.8MT Inspira for 69k. wub.gif

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 18 2011, 02:24 PM)
Nobody spamming the wall.. Now i can lay claim to provide the first review of the Proton Exora Bold Premium CFE 1.6 CVT on the internet.. Anything that seems similar in other review website is a copy of my article.  brows.gif
handling wise I think PE still better, Exora have a lot more body roll.. And thanks to the big side windows u think u are going to fall out of the car.. But what I see is that the body roll is controlled by some active body control module.. So it seems that something special is going on somewhere around to control it. Oh no wonder i can reach around 11secs when doing 0-100.. I think they retune the ECU before launch, decreasing FC and reduce acceleration time.
I think i want 4-2-1, even more pickup, tapau PE.. hehe..
In size and power and stability in straight line and and power steering feel and braking power and comfort yes..
Nope we still wont get tapau yet, but we have to accelerate like petrol is free to overtake one..
I also feel the SAT mode very dumb.. Might as well leave it off, when the SAT is on it seems like its confused which gear it should be in and what RPM it needs to be, it just keep on changing RPM. Now I feel my car really needs ABS and EBD ady..  cry.gif
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yup,abs and ebd reali important..the SA fetch me around 80kmh and whack corner..once he whack in the corner,he suddenly brake hard and abs kick in..he told me if withou EBD then the car will total lose control..hehe..according the salesman,our persona body is quite stronger..is seems like bmw technology which start use 10years ago..the name i forgot ledi..onli persona,exora and satria neo use tis kind technology..saga still dun use it..i not sure the 0-100 is it reali need 11sec wit full throttle and aircond off..juz based my butt feeling..but 0-100 almost same or lose abit to PE,r u think so?
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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 16 2011, 03:25 AM)
Party thats the ONLY answer!! U get to meet a lot of hot single and pretending to be single girls..
Best way to meet a lot of potential suitors in a short time..
Now u will see why grounding plays a very important role here.. As explained , lets say for full 100% throttle is 5V and 0% throttle is 0V. When the throttle is not open at all, there might be some residual current still running in the circuits.. This in returns causes the throttle lag.. To put it into words.. Lets say the residual current running in the circuit is 0.5V.. So the ECU adepts to the settings and reads 0V-0.5V as 0% throttle and 5V as 100% throttle.. So lets say u gradually press the throttle from 0% to 20%.. Which would give an eventual reading of 1V (cos 20% of 5V is 1V), as u press and the voltage slowly climbs up to 1V, for the first 0.5V ur pedal would give no response, after u have pressed till 0.5V and above (lets say u go 0.6V, 0.65V, 0.7V etc) then only the ECU reads it as throttling and sent the signal to open the throttle body accordingly... Thats what we interpret as throttle lag.. Its like the throttle is not responsive.. U have to press more to accelerate..

What other ppl would tell u is that using a PDT u can reset and tune the throttle to be more responsive.. Yes u can, but what is the real logic behind it? The PDT resets the ECU to read 0V as 0% throttling,  thus after tuning it, the engine tends to idle higher due to the 0.5V residual current in the circuit and the ECU reads it as 10% throttling.. So when u depress the throttle abit u can feel the car starting to pull cos the Voltage fluctuates and the ECU reads it acccordingly..

So how does throttle controller helps?
What it does is it become an intermediary between the throttle and the ECU.. It receives the signal from the throttle, and then it sents the signal to the ECU.. So if u are not throttling, the ECU gets 0V and wont accelerate. Where else the throttle controller will determine the idling voltage and full voltage and adjust the difference to be between it..

So interested in getting a throttle controller now? 
Haiz so big deal.. My breakup was even worst and not a fark was given that day..
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how much will it cost?

QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 16 2011, 04:40 AM)
Now I got money for LCP ady.. hehe.. Cos throttle controller i get for free.. hehe.. Neighbour demod his FD2, so im vulturing all the stuffs that can be transferred over to my car.. So far got push start button, throttle controller, Apexi SAFC II Apexi RSM, E-manage Blue that can be transferred to my car.. hehe..
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wow emamage blue how much?

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 16 2011, 09:00 AM)
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then my car cant install loh.no lcp.hehe.

Zeng,for d throttle controller,ea one need cut wiring and tape.redline juz plug n play.but price difference is rm100
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redline how much?

QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 17 2011, 01:31 AM)
Anybody interested in changing car battery and want to try Panasolite brand?
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my car battery still surviving after 2 years 4 months flex.gif maintain 12.2V before crank car.

Da mn yesterday my car tyre pancit. Then i took out all the emergency kit to change. So i unscrew the nut using the ori proton tools. The nut was so tight so i step on the tool. The nut was so tight until i need to fully step on it and shake. At the end the tools broke. doh.gif So fragile. shakehead.gif Da mn need to contact for ppl to help buy another open. really suey.
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QUOTE(vccy @ Dec 18 2011, 02:41 PM)
So long din online cos busy working. So many post need to read.  sweat.gif
how much will it cost?
wow emamage blue how much?
redline how much?
my car battery still surviving after 2 years 4 months  flex.gif maintain 12.2V before crank car.

Da mn yesterday my car tyre pancit. Then i took out all the emergency kit to change. So i unscrew the nut using the ori proton tools. The nut was so tight so i step on the tool. The nut was so tight until i need to fully step on it and shake. At the end the tools broke.  doh.gif So fragile.  shakehead.gif Da mn need to contact for ppl to help buy another open. really suey.
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redline need RM450..but no need cut wiring..hehe

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