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raimy_m9
post Dec 18 2011, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 18 2011, 02:24 PM)



Added on December 18, 2011, 2:29 pmAnd one more thing i found out.. Inspira is going for lelong like no man's business..

All inspira going for RM8k discount.. The manual one priced at 78k, after 8k discount only cost less than 70k.. OMG.. I felt like booking one on the spot ady.. 1.8MT Inspira for 69k.  wub.gif
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really? too bad i got my pe 4 months ago..smile.gif
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post Dec 18 2011, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 18 2011, 03:43 PM)
redline need RM450..but no need cut wiring..hehe
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can ownself install? RM 450 a bit exp. sad.gif how much without installation?

This post has been edited by vccy: Dec 18 2011, 04:03 PM
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post Dec 18 2011, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 18 2011, 02:24 PM)
Nobody spamming the wall.. Now i can lay claim to provide the first review of the Proton Exora Bold Premium CFE 1.6 CVT on the internet.. Anything that seems similar in other review website is a copy of my article.  brows.gif
handling wise I think PE still better, Exora have a lot more body roll.. And thanks to the big side windows u think u are going to fall out of the car.. But what I see is that the body roll is controlled by some active body control module.. So it seems that something special is going on somewhere around to control it. Oh no wonder i can reach around 11secs when doing 0-100.. I think they retune the ECU before launch, decreasing FC and reduce acceleration time.
I think i want 4-2-1, even more pickup, tapau PE.. hehe..
In size and power and stability in straight line and and power steering feel and braking power and comfort yes..
Nope we still wont get tapau yet, but we have to accelerate like petrol is free to overtake one..
I also feel the SAT mode very dumb.. Might as well leave it off, when the SAT is on it seems like its confused which gear it should be in and what RPM it needs to be, it just keep on changing RPM. Now I feel my car really needs ABS and EBD ady..  cry.gif


Added on December 18, 2011, 2:29 pmAnd one more thing i found out.. Inspira is going for lelong like no man's business..

All inspira going for RM8k discount.. The manual one priced at 78k, after 8k discount only cost less than 70k.. OMG.. I felt like booking one on the spot ady.. 1.8MT Inspira for 69k.  wub.gif
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i want inspira 1.8m
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post Dec 18 2011, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Dec 18 2011, 03:59 PM)
can ownself install? RM 450 a bit exp.  sad.gif how much without installation?
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Same loh.so juz use EA one lah.i plan install it..but wait warranty over 1st.nw do d pnp throttle body 1st.
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post Dec 18 2011, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Dec 18 2011, 03:24 AM)
Here it goes.. My review of the Proton Exora Bold Premium CFE 1.6 CVT (Im not joking, its that long)

      Went out this afternoon after seeing Samwong and Tanjacky all went to test drive the car ady.. Had nothing to do at home, so decided to go test the car.. Initially when I reached the showroom around 4.30pm I expected a huge crowd of ppl to be lining up for a test drive.. However the scarcity of ppl in the showroom proved me otherwise.
        As usual there was a tent outside the SA with the new Exora Bold and Saga FLX both in the same color and full with decals outside the showroom ready for a test drive.. So wasting no time, I went ahead to inspect the Exora Bold in the showroom. After looking in the engine bay and making out where the 'huge' turbo (barely bigger than my palm) was suppose to be, I proceeded for a test drive.

      Initial impression, dashboard have a design that requires and acquired taste, however that design do make the dashboard feel a bit premium compared to a flat slab of cheap plastic like those in the Satria Neo. :rolleyes:  Audio system is decent, a dual din that has nothing to shout about, a well located transmission stick, probably located within grabbing distance and not as part of the dash as in the Myvi. Dashboard doesn’t sound hollow when knocked, and the seats good and supportive, just not as body hugging like a Persona.  Then comes my favourite part, a steering wheel that feels as good as it looks. Its thicker and slightly softer than the PE, with button designs that doesn’t look like an afterthought compared to PE. Button feels however less premium and tactile, but that can be overlooked considering the easy to remember layout and button size.  :thumbs:

    Putting it in reverse activates the screen for the reverse camera, the same like what they have in the Kia Sportage, but resolution seems to be a bit lower and the screen a tad overwashed with brightness compared to the Kia’s. Nevertheless it cant be used as a replacement for airheads who cant park, but merely as a view of the back to look out for high kerb and prevent from mowing down reckless kids or ur cat who was hiding from u. 
Now comes to the best part, the thrashing part. My car had a mileage of 220km on the odo, perfect fresh engine that just lost its virginity and gained a master in horniness. I brought it out for 46km of sexual intercourse to satisfy my inquisitiveness of the new car. Throttle lag was inherently there, but barely noticeable, however the fact that the CVT transmission have the ‘rubber-band’ effect amplified the feel that the pedal was laggy. After a few km of getting used to it, the best way to pedal the car is to increase throttle very gradually in the start and accelerate after the CVT spins back into harmony.  :nod:

      ACCELERATION WAS ZOMG! :shock:  Not Caldina 2.0 GT-Four  awesome, but for a 1.6L Campro reknown for having an affair with high end HP and forgetting its torque at home, this certainly makes u rewrite ur good books bout the campro engine. Low end torque generously rushed in at a low 2k RPM and the car just kept on accelerating forward like it was a Persona. Driving position felt very sedan like except for the high POV, and having generous amount of space in the cabin extends credibility to its size advantage compared to other MPV. The car accelerates out of corners and traffic light stops at a nice good pace (faster than PE) all the while just maintaining engine speed at between 2k-2.3k RPM. The engine only kicks into higher rev when u push it hard, however high end power seems a bit lacking as the acceleration is not so willing towards the high end range when ur engine speed goes beyond 5k RPM boundaries. It seems like the turbo was suffering from lack of breath and the car felt like it was sprinting compared to jogging when the powerband used was between 2-4k RPM. This is a feeling similar to Evo III engines with TD04 turbines  :x , the power just runs out when the RPM goes into drag racing 5k-6.5k RPM range. No matter how hard I pushed the car I wasn’t able to get it to 6k RPM. Weird. Highest ever was 5.5k RPM and it stayed there.  At one point of exiting the highway I took a sweeping near 360˚ roundabout at around 90kmh. Now that speed is nothing to shout about, but do that in an MPV taller than most Asians, trust me, my mom was screaming and the SA at back never appreciated her life more before that turn. Personally that same corner a Veilfire would have lost out in stability and grip as the tires on the Veilfire was screeching like cats in hot soup when speed was just touching 80kmh. Bravo Lotus R&H.  :thumbs:

      Highway cruising was effortless.  I barely noticed the speed on highway while travelling at around 150kmh. The fastest I was able to touch was 160kmh, thanks to moderate traffic trying to tailgate me at every opportunity I presented then when I was testing it at cruising speed (110kmh). Happy to say that Dugongs and Turtles never stood a chance whenever I accelerated away from them as they tailgated me. :w  Driving an Exora Bold like a boss on the highway(thanks to the better tagline “More power, more style”) was awesome as it made u look like a celebrity, everybody tried to come closer to take a look. NVH was very good, can dare say almost on par with previous generation Alphard and better than Toyota Innova. Doors close with a solid thump, there wasn’t rattling noise coming from seats or dashboards, but the enormous wall mirrors they put as the side mirror of the car did cause some wind noise at high speed above 130kmh. All round visibility was good and A pillars didn’t obstruct much of the corner of a junction. Insulation now feels like a premium Japanese sedan.  :hyper:

      Coming to the brakes, the brake pump in the Exora Bold can say its bigger than a PE front disc brakes. While doing the road test, the brakes were put to good use thanks to idiots under estimating the power of 1.6 CFE engine and stayed on the speed lane. The brakes felt very nice and progressive and bite was bone clenching. Much better than our beloved PE. When u are braking from a high speed to a complete stop there was a discernible change in braking power, as u slowed down to a stage, the braking power improved, possibly due to the EBD working, or some wizardry going on to eliminate the annoying KRUK KRUK sound when u release ur brakes gently while being in D. I tried it a few times and noticed that the KRUK KRUK sound could not be replicated no matter how gently I released the brake pedal. Seems like 1 more problem ticked off from the PE problems list.
Seems like I have covered most of the main bases for the car. Feel free to ask me anything if u are planning to buy an Exora Bold thanks to ur condom-less orgy last saturday night. For a car that cost below RM80k, and factoring discounts u might probably get when they start delivering the car next year, its certainly the best MPV in its class. Period.  B]


Added on December 18, 2011, 3:30 am
Fine.. lol.. next TT probably after christmas and before New year.. TT at Rampai Business Park.
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best review~~the heavy weight is useful for the highspeed cruising. and the design is much better compared to when the exora 1st came out. lets hope that the car most basic rattling problem is solved. if those problems that makes proton owner dislike proton is solved, then proton can make a comeback in the industry.

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 17 2011, 09:29 PM)
exora cfe official brochure stated 0-100 onli need 11.3sec :hehe: but i wonder why i cant feel it so fast loh :stars: but if its true,then the actual i think can do 9-10sec..since proton official figure always slower than result tat try by user..if tis engine put in persona,i think can do within 7-8sec leh :thumbs: can cucuk golf 1.4 oledi..tis exora cfe can makan most of 2.0 NA car if the figure is true..next time c exora cfe need move aside let it pass oledi..haiz :x
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if they sell this engine to be fitted into persona i think it wont be cheap also.

QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 17 2011, 09:11 PM)
come'on! wira rattling sound even worse, u bang pothole it sound like BanNNnGGG!!  :P


Added on December 17, 2011, 9:13 pm

really?  :drool: once u lost control 1.5tan car sure can trash any sedan and hatchback at side  :D


Added on December 17, 2011, 9:17 pm

my windows also got this sound, but it appear when weather are HOT at outside  :hmm:
what possibly cause this??
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the BAng sound will be bcoz of the whole car which have such thin metal. not those plastic, clips, dashboard, seats rattling we talking about.

QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 17 2011, 09:11 PM)
my wira oso less than persona loh..forgot to say,the exora handling reali superb..i whack corner at roundabout and the car still very stable,less body roll oso..somemore i feel handling better than our persona lo :shock: the steering feedback is good,oso wont feel too heavy or too light :) when u drive exora,u can feel seems like u drive sedan more than mpv..
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but then the size of exora wont really attract me actually. i still prefer driving a smaller car until i really need a mpv XD

QUOTE(abong8 @ Dec 17 2011, 09:08 PM)
In order for u to entitle the warranty, u have to maintain full service record with SC.. I will be sending to SC until 50k km only, after that, just service it myself only..
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i service outside compared to i service in SC the difference is around RM60 for major service. RM20-RM30 for minor service.
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post Dec 18 2011, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Dec 18 2011, 06:27 PM)
best review~~the heavy weight is useful for the highspeed cruising. and the design is much better compared to when the exora 1st came out. lets hope that the car most basic rattling problem is solved. if those problems that makes proton owner dislike proton is solved, then proton can make a comeback in the industry.
if they sell this engine to be fitted into persona i think it wont be cheap also.
the BAng sound will be bcoz of the whole car which have such thin metal. not those plastic, clips, dashboard, seats rattling we talking about.
but then the size of exora wont really attract me actually. i still prefer driving a smaller car until i really need a mpv XD
i service outside compared to i service in SC the difference is around RM60 for major service. RM20-RM30 for minor service.
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U r rite..if proton can solve rattling sound,then i wil consider..but d test unit tat i test today n ystd,oso got a bit sound from rear n driver side door panel..n d turbo whinning sound when cruise 2k to 4k rpm,reali make people feel quite not syiok if long journey.
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post Dec 18 2011, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Dec 18 2011, 06:45 PM)
U r rite..if proton can solve rattling sound,then i wil consider..but d test unit tat i test today n ystd,oso got a bit sound from rear n driver side door panel..n d turbo whinning sound when cruise  2k to 4k rpm,reali make people feel quite not syiok if long journey.
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hows the muffler?? still the same dual muffler rite??
bcoz if proton can solve all this minor problem, its a better choice of coz bcoz of the cheaper price.
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post Dec 18 2011, 07:56 PM

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which insurance da best now?

MYEG only got Etiqa and RHB
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post Dec 18 2011, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Dec 18 2011, 07:56 PM)
which insurance da best now?

MYEG only got Etiqa and RHB
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Etiqa??
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post Dec 18 2011, 08:52 PM

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hey guys...my car nearly 1000km already,just 2 weeks,lol...

i saw the zen put SC at bukit serdang is one of the best SC,right?if im first service,is it okay i send it there?easy for me because im working at kuchai lama...i think to send it to pesc puchong or just sc at bukit serdang...what do u all think?and what the best lubricants for persona?how much it cost?if i dont bring lubricant,normally first service will cost how much?sorry for too many question,this is me when buy a new item,lol
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QUOTE(adieslave @ Dec 18 2011, 08:52 PM)
hey guys...my car nearly 1000km already,just 2 weeks,lol...

i saw the zen put SC at bukit serdang is one of the best SC,right?if im first service,is it okay i send it there?easy for me because im working at kuchai lama...i think to send it to pesc puchong or just sc at bukit serdang...what do u all think?and what the best lubricants for persona?how much it cost?if i dont bring lubricant,normally first service will cost how much?sorry for too many question,this is me when buy a new item,lol
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1st service issit? I recommended just use the SC provide syntieum800, or otherwise you can change it to castrol magnatec like me biggrin.gif , for review you can search at past thread.
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 18 2011, 09:02 PM)
1st service issit? I recommended just use the SC provide syntieum800, or otherwise you can change it to castrol magnatec like me  biggrin.gif , for review you can search at past thread.
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yes,first service biggrin.gif
how do i know what sc use for lubricants? tongue.gif
i think i want bring my own lube,is it ok?
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Dec 18 2011, 08:36 PM)
Etiqa??
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Etiqa from Maybank
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(adieslave @ Dec 18 2011, 09:06 PM)
yes,first service biggrin.gif
how do i know what sc use for lubricants? tongue.gif
i think i want bring my own lube,is it ok?
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new car not free service for 2 years de meh?
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Dec 18 2011, 09:38 PM)
new car not free service for 2 years de  meh?
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its just free labours only right?im just thinking if can find other good lubricants that i can bring it to SC that allowed to bring own lube...at bukit serdang SC,from the picture look like they use helix,is it okay?
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QUOTE(adieslave @ Dec 18 2011, 09:40 PM)
its just free labours only right?im just thinking if can find other good lubricants that i can bring it to SC that allowed to bring own lube...at bukit serdang SC,from the picture look like they use helix,is it okay?
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i thought new car got promotion de..
1 of my colleagues get.. free service de woo.. for 2 years
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:43 PM

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really?erm,i dont know,but i can try go first biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(adieslave @ Dec 18 2011, 09:43 PM)
really?erm,i dont know,but i can try go first biggrin.gif
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yup... my colleagues just get it last month
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Guys,

what is the time for stock PE from 0-100kmph?
Based on the spec, it's 13.9s..
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post Dec 18 2011, 09:49 PM

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u all go for the first service at "wakil servis" or "pusat servis"?

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