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aspire2oo6
post Apr 14 2012, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(xcen @ Apr 14 2012, 11:15 PM)
What's up with closing apps in the background? I believe it's the contest rule because app launches much faster if it's in the background.
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no example if you loaded angry bird game on iOS even its in the background u run another app and switch back it will load from the start again unlike windowsphone it loads back where u stop.

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post Apr 15 2012, 03:14 AM

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QUOTE(xcen @ Apr 14 2012, 11:15 PM)
What's up with closing apps in the background? I believe it's the contest rule because app launches much faster if it's in the background.
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No, just that they thought with less stuff running in the background they might get it to work faster.


Added on April 15, 2012, 3:18 am
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Apr 14 2012, 11:56 PM)
no example if you loaded angry bird game on iOS even its in the background u run another app and switch back it will load from the start again unlike windowsphone it loads back where u stop.
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IOS actually works the same as WP in this regard. If you exit and app and return to it through the task list (for ios) or back button (wp) it'll attempt to restore the in progress state.

If you click on the app icon again, then the previous one is destroyed, and a new onestarted

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Apr 15 2012, 03:14 AM)
No, just that they thought with less stuff running in the background they might get it to work faster.


Added on April 15, 2012, 3:18 am

IOS actually works the same as WP in this regard. If you exit and app and return to it through the task list (for ios) or back button (wp) it'll attempt to restore the in progress state.

If you click on the app icon again, then the previous one is destroyed, and a new onestarted
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This what i mean you can switch app thru app thru multitasking window up to 5 applications for WP7 on iOS when you switch and come back it loads from beginning and not resume from where u left off.



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post Apr 15 2012, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(marauderz @ Apr 15 2012, 03:14 AM)
No, just that they thought with less stuff running in the background they might get it to work faster.


Added on April 15, 2012, 3:18 am

IOS actually works the same as WP in this regard. If you exit and app and return to it through the task list (for ios) or back button (wp) it'll attempt to restore the in progress state.

If you click on the app icon again, then the previous one is destroyed, and a new onestarted
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Hmm... weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eM9JHlS47M&feature=related

If you noticed, when he pressed the Facebook app on the iPhone, it loads immediately and as you can see, he already has his side bar menu opened, suggesting that the app is restored to its previous state, much like Android.
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Anyone knows which specific thread on XDA or sites that has NoDo rom? I want to downgrade for HSPL and to flash into custom deepshining rom on my Mozart. Been using this phone for 8 months already.
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QUOTE(xcen @ Apr 15 2012, 11:24 AM)
Hmm... weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eM9JHlS47M&feature=related

If you noticed, when he pressed the Facebook app on the iPhone, it loads immediately and as you can see, he already has his side bar menu opened, suggesting that the app is restored to its previous state, much like Android.
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if you watch properly when the WP7 loads back its actually refreshing with the three dots moving when iOS just reopen

2nd if you minimize and reopen of course the app reopen fast because it stays open. But if u try to open example angry birds then load back facebook it will take forever

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QUOTE(xcen @ Apr 15 2012, 11:24 AM)
Hmm... weird.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eM9JHlS47M&feature=related

If you noticed, when he pressed the Facebook app on the iPhone, it loads immediately and as you can see, he already has his side bar menu opened, suggesting that the app is restored to its previous state, much like Android.
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Yeah. For apps on WP7, it's quite a bugger. It can only have that kinda previous state resume done via the longpress backbutton but not if you repress the app again. I have a quibble with this after spending much time with WP7. It is different with the browser though as it still keeps the tabs (surely they had to). But it bugs me when toast notifications only can get you to the main view and not the specific page. It's quite annoying especially when you click on a whatsapp message and will have to wait for it to reload rather than straightaway go to that chat. I hope they fix this issue for WP8.
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QUOTE(Chyan @ Apr 15 2012, 04:02 PM)
Yeah. For apps on WP7, it's quite a bugger. It can only have that kinda previous state resume done via the longpress backbutton but not if you repress the app again. I have a quibble with this after spending much time with WP7. It is different with the browser though as it still keeps the tabs (surely they had to). But it bugs me when toast notifications only can get you to the main view and not the specific page. It's quite annoying especially when you click on a whatsapp message and will have to wait for it to reload rather than straightaway go to that chat. I hope they fix this issue for WP8.
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Yeah, this is the problem I have too....

Makes group messaging on Facebook, WhatsApp, Twitter conversations really, really awkward, weird, unintuitive.


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post Apr 16 2012, 07:27 PM

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issit HTC Titan?
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QUOTE(marcus20125 @ Apr 16 2012, 07:27 PM)


issit HTC Titan?
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i see bunch for ppl fight because the girl throw the TITAN!! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Chyan @ Apr 15 2012, 04:02 PM)
Yeah. For apps on WP7, it's quite a bugger. It can only have that kinda previous state resume done via the longpress backbutton but not if you repress the app again. I have a quibble with this after spending much time with WP7. It is different with the browser though as it still keeps the tabs (surely they had to). But it bugs me when toast notifications only can get you to the main view and not the specific page. It's quite annoying especially when you click on a whatsapp message and will have to wait for it to reload rather than straightaway go to that chat. I hope they fix this issue for WP8.
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Actually that is the INTENDED behavior, if a user presses BACK through the previous apps the user's intention is to get back to a previous state of the app. If a user launches the app again instead of pressing back, then the intention is that user wants to start anew.

That's the basic way of how the OS works.

Now.. if the developer wanted to make it so launching the app still restores the previous view and such. That's actually quite possible to do.
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Apr 17 2012, 07:34 PM)
Actually that is the INTENDED behavior, if a user presses BACK through the previous apps the user's intention is to get back to a previous state of the app. If a user launches the app again instead of pressing back, then the intention is that user wants to start anew.

That's the basic way of how the OS works.

Now.. if the developer wanted to make it so launching the app still restores the previous view and such. That's actually quite possible to do.
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Just like WhatsApp, when you press the toast notification, it will send you directly to the message. But instead of resuming from previous state, it completely relaunches the app, wasting precious second in loading the app again. The app doesn't really launch fast also... The pain is very bad when you have multiple messages spread out over time. I usually just long press the back button to go back to whatsapp, faster that way, but necessarily intuitive or the fastest possible solution.
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A tiny news about WP8 for WP7 phones.

http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows...indows-phone-7s

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/17/windows..._medium=twitter
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post Apr 18 2012, 10:23 AM

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Windows Phone 8 (Apollo) reportedly coming to 'all' WP smartphones
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post Apr 18 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(blackjoker @ Apr 18 2012, 10:23 AM)
Maybe not:
Sources: current Windows Phone devices will not get 'Apollo' upgrade
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As we can see Nokia can bring NFC to a low-end device and WP7.5, I dun think Nokia can't make WP7 to go WP8.

http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-india-hints-a...hone-8-upgrade/
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QUOTE(v1900130 @ Apr 18 2012, 12:32 PM)
As we can see Nokia can bring NFC to a low-end device and WP7.5, I dun think Nokia can't make WP7 to go WP8.

http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-india-hints-a...hone-8-upgrade/
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tats different.
NFC you just need add a hardware and minor software

but changing the entire OS is totally different its like installing windows 7 on a AMD 64 PC yes it can run but the experience might end up like Nokia N8 laggy, unstable and that will make many people comparing and complaining.
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well the fact that windows 7 could still be installed on a pentium 4 with 1gb ram & ran quiet smoothly i would say its possible. If im not wrong i remember seeing the new update will lower the min use of ram to 256mb?
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I think whether we have upgrade to wp8 or not, its only our concern, us wp7 user. Not the rest of consumer out there.

So m$ not losing anything, we bought their product already.

But since we are the backbone of their products, from the time wp7 is nothing, we should at least have a taste of the update.

Im using lumia 800, but this is not my verdict phone, as this phone still lacking front camera. Im still thinking to get a new phone, titan 2 or lumia 900. So not receiving update, will only make me buy a new phone. Maybe official wp8 device.

But without update, Im sure by that time, expert out there already found a way to install custom rom on our device. =)

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Dear all experts, anyone who can tell me the most easier way to back up sms to PC, able to read from PC. i don't need to restore back. TQ

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