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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Wigan 0-0 Liverpool

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post Dec 8 2011, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(sharulzzz @ Dec 8 2011, 05:30 PM)
i am open for everything

i can accept any comment or advise even some humiliating comment
we are here to discuss, even call me childish, stupid idiolt i am fine with that
everyone care abt the club, and everyone love the club as well
i just make my point clear that there need some changes to some players that is totally out of reach. i am suportive to cetain buying also, like charlie adam, henderson downing suarez but no to bellamy and caroll becoz firstly bellamy, ....what future you can have w this guy? how many years you will have to make use of him, it is like micheal owen in man utd, totally useless, he have the pace but do he have the stamina to finish the whole games?
carroll, i dunno why u all feel carroll is a good buy, he will be someone like peter crouch where eventually settle w 10 goals in a season.
we buy some young striker i am ok w that, we can build that young team and then get better result for the next 5 yrs, but i am doubt with that.

forget to say another name ...reina...he have to go, KD should penalised for his fumble
should replace him with another young goalkeeper

thats all from me
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Nonsense.

Bellamy came on a free transfer because we don't have the budget to get another young striker who costs a bomb (ask Chelsea and Man City). Although he is aging, he is still a quick striker and a good back-up striker in case Suarez and Caroll is injured/tired/not available. Pls also remember Liverpool sold N'gog.

Caroll is the "young striker" you were mentioning about. He is only 22 years old and already an England International. He cost GBP 32 million because he is young, an english international and has tremendous potential. Just like Man U paid GBP 30 million for Wayne Rooney a few years ago. Ronney did not score 20 goals a season from the start with MU.

Reina is one of the most consistent GK in the EPL and even in the World. He is the main reason why Liverpool is even where we are today. There is no other young keeper who can replace him. I would rather have Reina who fumbles once in a while then young keeper like De Gea.

You do not understand that young football talents are rare and hard to come by. They costs a lot of money and motivation to train and perform week in week out.
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post Dec 8 2011, 06:05 PM

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hahahahah

compare caroll with rooney?

what you guys think?

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post Dec 8 2011, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(flix @ Dec 8 2011, 04:40 PM)
Yup the Myrawk boys will be having a night game from 8-10pm. If you want to, we can watch the game at Royal Oak Jaya One.
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Hyper youth, care to join?

QUOTE(sharulzzz @ Dec 8 2011, 06:05 PM)
hahahahah

compare caroll with rooney?

what you guys think?
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Not as funny as comparing you with a Liverpool fan.

I see you ignored my response to your "football is a business" rant.


Added on December 8, 2011, 6:12 pmHe wasn't comparing their ability you nitwit. He's suggesting that clubs do pay a lot for a young player who show potential. It's called an "investment". Since you're familiar with business, I'm guessing you've heard of this word. There are no guarantees and there are risks involved of course.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Dec 8 2011, 06:12 PM
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post Dec 8 2011, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(sharulzzz @ Dec 8 2011, 06:05 PM)
hahahahah

compare caroll with rooney?

what you guys think?
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how much would rooney cost nowadays ? even an unpolished talented player like neymar may cost more than 40million..ermmmm, did you watch yesterday match Basel against MU ? how did Rooney play last night ? go and compare it .

For your own health ,I advise you to support another team or stop watching football . biggrin.gif
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post Dec 8 2011, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(flix @ Dec 8 2011, 05:40 PM)
Yup the Myrawk boys will be having a night game from 8-10pm. If you want to, we can watch the game at Royal Oak Jaya One.
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Alrighty. I will be in Wangsa Maju, so I'll have to probably get a cab or something.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 8 2011, 07:11 PM)
Hyper youth, care to join?
Not as funny as comparing you with a Liverpool fan.

I see you ignored my response to your "football is a business" rant.


Added on December 8, 2011, 6:12 pmHe wasn't comparing their ability you nitwit. He's suggesting that clubs do pay a lot for a young player who show potential. It's called an "investment". Since you're familiar with business, I'm guessing you've heard of this word. There are no guarantees and there are risks involved of course.
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Yeap, Duke. I'll make it. Call me Badi Yee. its better sounding than hyper youth. LOL. too old to be a youth nowadays.







edit: need some help.


http://www.jayaone.com.my/gettingthere-public-transport.asp

this Jaya One, is the very same Jaya One, right? it says drop down at Asia Jaya LRT station, then take a 10 minute cab.



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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Dec 8 2011, 06:57 PM)
Alrighty. I will be in Wangsa Maju, so I'll have to probably get a cab or something.
Yeap, Duke. I'll make it. Call me Badi Yee. its better sounding than hyper youth. LOL. too old to be a youth nowadays.
edit: need some help.
http://www.jayaone.com.my/gettingthere-public-transport.asp

this Jaya One, is the very same Jaya One, right? it says drop down at Asia Jaya LRT station, then take a 10 minute cab.
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i'd say stop at the Universiti station and take cab. its nearer. and more staightforward.

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post Dec 8 2011, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 8 2011, 03:52 PM)
Yes Daniel Agger, or "Dagger" as he is fondly called by some.


Added on December 8, 2011, 3:59 pm

Mmm I don't know about fragile but he sure isn't soft. He's has been fairly successful for example when he's had to mark Drogba, one of the strongest forwards around. One could argue that there is more contact playing as a central defender because you're always marking big players during set pieces. Can't disregard the fact that the's been pretty unlucky with injuries but amongst those injuries are a concussion and two cracked ribs. He's a tough lad and I'm sure he'll hold up. Not an ideal option but in my opinion, the best we have. I may be mistaken, but I think most of his injuries were incurred during training and not proper matches?


Added on December 8, 2011, 4:03 pmI'm still peeved that the FA is up in arms over our players surround Kevin Friend after he (imo) wrongly sent off Jay Spearing. Don't John Terry and his charges do it all the time?
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Well he admitted on LFC website that his body is not made for football.IMO,a DM holds the responsibility alone while at CB he share his duties with skrtel and enrique.Well,since it's just one game,we can only sit back and hope he doesnt get injured.
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post Dec 8 2011, 08:00 PM

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liverpool are still average team...even 100m spent i still doubt to use 'em in PES/Fifa games...
just wait another 2-3 seasons and the players fan keep flaming will shut their mouth
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post Dec 8 2011, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(sharulzzz @ Dec 8 2011, 05:30 PM)
i am open for everything

i can accept any comment or advise even some humiliating comment
we are here to discuss, even call me childish, stupid idiolt i am fine with that
everyone care abt the club, and everyone love the club as well
i just make my point clear that there need some changes to some players that is totally out of reach. i am suportive to cetain buying also, like charlie adam, henderson downing suarez but no to bellamy and caroll becoz firstly bellamy, ....what future you can have w this guy? how many years you will have to make use of him, it is like micheal owen in man utd, totally useless, he have the pace but do he have the stamina to finish the whole games?
carroll, i dunno why u all feel carroll is a good buy, he will be someone like peter crouch where eventually settle w 10 goals in a season.
we buy some young striker i am ok w that, we can build that young team and then get better result for the next 5 yrs, but i am doubt with that.

forget to say another name ...reina...he have to go, KD should penalised for his fumble
should replace him with another young goalkeeper

thats all from me
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Bellamy - free transfer and still considered as a good backup forward. Proven in EPL and has helped with a goal and a few assists, what more can you ask for?

Carroll - are you fecking stupid? he's just 22 for fecks sake. give him some time and have faith with the king kenny. look at lucas leiva a couple of years back and look at him now again.

Reina - just because he fumbled once and you're asking for his head? FYI Liverpool has only conceded 13 so far this season along with Man U and Man C. Do you even want me to show you a youtube video of world class goalkeepers like Buffon, Casillas, De Gea or Joe Hart blunders compilation? Give him a break fool, I can't even count the number of times he saved the team from conceding important goals.

The club doesn't need supporters like you. Go find a new pair of titties to suck on.

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post Dec 8 2011, 08:07 PM

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If saying Reina out, then it is totally out of the discussion. Even for someone that too critical about players would agree that Reina is one of the best keeper..
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post Dec 8 2011, 09:14 PM

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the players that failed me badly is only downing... 27 year proven experienced can only perform same rating as hendo or alittle better
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Dec 8 2011, 09:14 PM)
the players that failed me badly is only downing... 27 year proven experienced can only perform same rating as hendo or alittle better
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yea but. IMO. our new boys still cant fully adapt to our system.

In example :

Downing gave more assist and score too when playing at Aston Villa, he is very familiar and comfortable with Aston Villa system.

Andy Carroll gave nightmare to defenders bags a lot of goals when playing under Newcastle system.

Henderson put an excellent play when playing at CM with Sunderland.

Hmmm....it's tough to gel some of new players to our system.
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since this is a transition season, please make full use of the opportunity. we should promote some youngsters for brief appearances. 10-15 min playing time would be good enough
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post Dec 8 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Dec 8 2011, 09:26 PM)
yea but. IMO. our new boys still cant fully adapt to our system.

In example :

Downing gave more assist and score too when playing at Aston Villa, he is very familiar and comfortable with Aston Villa system.

Andy Carroll gave nightmare to defenders bags a lot of goals when playing under Newcastle system.

Henderson put an excellent play when playing at CM with Sunderland.

Hmmm....it's tough to gel some of new players to our system.
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yea but let's gave common excuse to those carrol and hendo tat just becos dey'r young... but downing is young anymore.. he's somewhat called senior and have caps in him which make him a profesional player... but sadly he's involvement in the game is somewhat childish
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Dec 8 2011, 06:57 PM)
this Jaya One, is the very same Jaya One, right? it says drop down at Asia Jaya LRT station, then take a 10 minute cab.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Dec 8 2011, 07:09 PM)
i'd say stop at the Universiti station and take cab. its nearer. and more staightforward.
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The game is at 12am so it's probably best to just take a cab.

PM Flix for details. I'll most likely meet up with him and some of the rest but best to check with him jussstttt in case I go for Tiesto in Sepang.


Added on December 8, 2011, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Dec 8 2011, 10:23 PM)
but sadly he's involvement in the game is somewhat childish
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What does this sentence mean?

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As I've said from time to time, Reina is the benchmark for Liverpool's performance. A bad game for Reina usually equates to a bad game for Liverpool. He's THAT important to the team.
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its not yet a season passed since the new player come in and then...should we expect liverpool to succeed?

football is based on team working, not one-player-playing-to win

give some time...time will tell LOL

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post Dec 9 2011, 09:35 AM

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hope you all prove me wrong

you have to understand diff position will have diff adaption

for downing, they must give him ball and only he will perform
no balls has given to him, how will he perform
not like carroll, he is the target man ...and evryone try to supply him with diff kinds of balls
but he is unable to deliver, then say he is young hahahaha
what a joke.......when rooney is 20 yrs old in everton he is already very explosive
can threaten every defender
but for caroll which perform last match w fulham against clumsy defender, he is even cannot have one shot on target.......
i think buying caroll is a very big big mistake..should sell back to newcastle.....
i think alan pardew is very genius, he knows carroll will not grow therefore sell to liverpool who just want to have bargain cheap striker.
there a lot of young good player which is not very very expensive, just that need to go and fine tune
like adeabayor, ba, jones, etc etc etc

i think harry redknapp is the best that i can see in EPL now
buy good qty player at good price and can strike all the partnership well
well done Harry
i would rather hand Harry a big cheque and ask him to come over to liverpool develop the young team, not steve clark or KD....they r just people of 80s


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