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kuntilanak
post Jun 20 2012, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(pingpang @ Jun 20 2012, 12:29 PM)
I know. The high end Chinese rubbers are on par with their European counterpart (like Stiga, Donic, Andro, Tibhar etc). My Chinese rubbers are limited to Palio (not the Macro Era or the "tensor" type) and LKT brands which cost below RM30 per piece.

The secret is their skill level. We are no where at their level, hence cannot perform what they can do.
But with more practice and over time, I believe we will be on the right path to reach their level.  biggrin.gif

Can see > RM100 rubber in the shop mar.
Like what Steven has hinted in his earlier post, a DHS Hurricane 3 rubber retails around RM30-RM 40. A Hurricane 3 Provincional Rubber (was told of a higher grade than the standard one retailing in shops) cost about RM120.
Other rubbers from Xiom, Stiga, Yasaka and even Butterfly has rubbers costing more than RM100. (Eg. Butterfly Tenergy series retails at RM200)

Agreed with kuntilanak comments.  rclxms.gif

Good suggestion, forgot_86.
But most members here are not regular in the forum, it will not be updated when they change their set-up.
Myself, an EJ, changes my set-up every 3-6 months. IMO, not informative.
As for location, it is good as other members can search for members in the same locality to play with each other.

Just my 2 cents worth of opinion.
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That's a long post... biggrin.gif Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence. laugh.gif I have several bats, so I tend to have their rubbers interchanged to test out combinations. The most expensive rubbers I have are XIOM ZAVA I (pimple out) and WTSP Spinpips (pimple out), both costs RM 120 each. FYI, I play 'rough'... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jun 21 2012, 01:42 PM

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went to SETTC yesterday. played with some non-forummer. got my ass handed to me heh.

do let me know if any of u guys are playing there and if u dont mind me joining smile.gif
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post Jun 21 2012, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(chickenshit36 @ Jun 21 2012, 01:42 PM)
went to SETTC yesterday. played with some non-forummer. got my ass handed to me heh.

do let me know if any of u guys are playing there and if u dont mind me joining smile.gif
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I am always at SETTC on Friday after 7pm or 7.30pm unless I am working outstation.
Do join me for some stroke practice, and if you want a game, Ill play with you.


Added on June 21, 2012, 3:12 pm
QUOTE(kuntilanak @ Jun 20 2012, 03:58 PM)
That's a long post...  biggrin.gif  Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence.  laugh.gif  I have several bats, so I tend to have their rubbers interchanged to test out combinations. The most expensive rubbers I have are XIOM ZAVA I (pimple out) and WTSP Spinpips (pimple out), both costs RM 120 each. FYI, I play 'rough'...  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Me too since I used to be an EJ.
At one time I have close to 8-10 blades and a dozen (used) rubbers which I use interchangably.
Sold some, given away the others.
Now, I stick to 2 normal wooden blades with the following rubbers - Sriver, Palio CJ 8000, LKT and 1 J-pen (square bat) which I used once in a blue moon with (either) Sriver or Palio rubber.

This post has been edited by pingpang: Jun 21 2012, 03:12 PM
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post Jun 21 2012, 03:14 PM

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Guys, are those RM30-ish rubbers much different from those RM50+ table tennis bat which have pre-sticked rubbers?

edit: And also are those ready made blades reusable(replace the rubber only)?

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post Jun 21 2012, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(chickenshit36 @ Jun 21 2012, 01:42 PM)
went to SETTC yesterday. played with some non-forummer. got my ass handed to me heh.

do let me know if any of u guys are playing there and if u dont mind me joining smile.gif
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I'll go SETTC today , quite a long time never went there dy ....hope today got kaki can play with me la.= )
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post Jun 21 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(deadevil @ Jun 21 2012, 03:52 PM)
I'll go SETTC today , quite a long time never went there dy ....hope today got kaki can play with me la.= )
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aik today didn bring my bat. what time will u be there?

@pingpang: sure thing. but tomorrow have something on. maybe next friday i'll come.

anyone plays on weekends?
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post Jun 22 2012, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jun 21 2012, 03:14 PM)
Guys, are those RM30-ish rubbers much different from those RM50+ table tennis bat which have pre-sticked rubbers?

edit: And also are those ready made blades reusable(replace the rubber only)?
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To my understanding, RM30-ish rubbers differs from the pre-sticked rubber come with the blades.
Reason is we chose which rubbers to use, ie hard rubber, soft rubber or even pimples rubber.
The pre-sticked rubber with the blades can also be found in places like Jusco, Tesco, Giant etc. Generally the wood used for this blades with the pre-sticked rubbers are of "not so good material".
A better blade will be made from woods like balsa, ayous, hinoki, limba etc. Some of the blades have composite like carbon or glass, titanium etc. Reason of such differing composition is to make the blade stiff or flexible. That is why some blades are categorised as fast, medium (overall) or slow (mostly used by defensive players or beginner)

Those ready made blades can be reusable(replace the rubber only) but one will have a tough time in getting rid of the existing rubbers and sponge as they used (I think) "super glue" to glue the rubber to the blade instead of using the normal glue for table tennis equipment.


Added on June 22, 2012, 5:43 pm
QUOTE(deadevil @ Jun 21 2012, 03:52 PM)
I'll go SETTC today , quite a long time never went there dy ....hope today got kaki can play with me la.= )
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Oh, I missed playing with you deadevil. MAybe some other time.

I believe on Thursday, K2002 and 2 other SETTC regular players usually will be there by 5pm.


Added on June 22, 2012, 5:47 pm
QUOTE(chickenshit36 @ Jun 21 2012, 04:23 PM)
aik today didn bring my bat. what time will u be there?

@pingpang: sure thing. but tomorrow have something on. maybe next friday i'll come.

anyone plays on weekends?
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No worries, chickenshit36. Will join you whenever you are free on Friday evening.

For weekend, I am not sure of Sat. But on Sunday morning, there will be a group of elderly people with their families (some younger and one or two junior players) will play from 10am - 1pm.
For those who want to improve their table tennis, can play with them. (Note: there is one ex-national player among them)

This post has been edited by pingpang: Jun 22 2012, 05:47 PM
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post Jun 22 2012, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jun 21 2012, 03:14 PM)
Guys, are those RM30-ish rubbers much different from those RM50+ table tennis bat which have pre-sticked rubbers?

edit: And also are those ready made blades reusable(replace the rubber only)?
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1. yes. basically readymade is good for starter. basically after playing for a while, u know dy how u play, looper/chopper/etc... from there u can go for next step, choosing correct rubber according to ur style.. for example if u play more heavy loop, then tacky rubber is the best...

2. yes, usually the hard part is to get rid of the sponge and glue residue.. u can use petrol and cloth to remove the residue. kasi clear sampai tinggal kayu... dont use alot of petrol.. sikit2 saja ok..

3. if u want to stick new rubber, for example, pimple rubber, need to lapik with paper below as u apply glue to bat, because pimple rubber u cannot gelek with a roller.. if normal rubber, can gelek.. refer to youtube video..

4. cheap supermarket blade with soft type of wood may also be good if u change the rubber to pimple.. so, no need to buy specific blade made specific for defensive style..

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post Jun 24 2012, 07:50 PM

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Anyone can help me in selection ?
I intend to get Yasaka Malin YEO for RPB !! What should be the better rubbers ??

current : Stiga Offensive NCT , fore: Hurricane 3 back: Sriver FX

Your valuable feedback is much appreciated coz I couldn't improve my game not the equipment but me !!

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post Jun 25 2012, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(MEXTEMAN @ Jun 24 2012, 07:50 PM)
Anyone can help me in selection ?
I intend to get Yasaka Malin YEO for RPB !! What should be the better rubbers ??

current : Stiga Offensive NCT , fore: Hurricane 3 back: Sriver FX

Your valuable feedback is much appreciated coz I couldn't improve my game not the equipment but me !!
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XIOM or STIGA rubbers, if you have the budget... or ANDRO also not bad... but mind you, they have very different feel than your previous 'budget' rubbers... whistling.gif
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:49 AM

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kuntilanak,

Hallo, "Budget" ha !! RM80 Sriver - That is actually slightly over my expenditure already .....
considering I never eaten for 3 days to get the rubber....my Auditor General will open a file to investigate the cost vs. my skill level.... ?

any specific one that someone can recommend with YEO ? hard or soft rubber for this blade ?

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post Jun 25 2012, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(MEXTEMAN @ Jun 25 2012, 09:49 AM)
kuntilanak,

Hallo, "Budget" ha !! RM80 Sriver - That is actually slightly over my expenditure already .....
considering I never eaten for 3 days to get the rubber....my Auditor Generator will open a file to investigate the cost vs. my skill level.... ?

any specific one that someone can recommend with YEO ? hard or soft rubber for this blade ?
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To clarify my statement, any rubbers costing < RM 100 is considered as 'budget' range to me. Those I stated earlier will easily cost you RM 120...

Hard or soft rubber really depends on your skill type. My experience is:
- Hard rubber for fast game play (smacking. smashing...)
- Soft rubber for control game play (looping, chopping...)

As for which exact one to recommend, I can't say for sure. But since you used Sriver FX before, that's a soft rubber. Hurricane 3 is hard rubber. You decide...
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post Jun 25 2012, 10:14 AM

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Well, I'd recommend you don't use hurricane 3 for forehand as YEO isn't the most powerful of all bats and you might have a hard time generating some good speed with H3. Go with sriver instead.

Edit: Besides, what's wrong with the STIGA?

This post has been edited by Steven_aka_G: Jun 25 2012, 10:15 AM
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post Jun 25 2012, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(MEXTEMAN @ Jun 25 2012, 09:49 AM)
kuntilanak,

Hallo, "Budget" ha !! RM80 Sriver - That is actually slightly over my expenditure already .....
considering I never eaten for 3 days to get the rubber....my Auditor General will open a file to investigate the cost vs. my skill level.... ?

any specific one that someone can recommend with YEO ? hard or soft rubber for this blade ?
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Mexteman,

You wanna improve your game, practice more.
Practice your strokes - drive, loop, smash, push, block etc for both forehand and backhand.

Your Stiga NCT is a good blade. Coupled with a hard rubber (H3) and a soft rubber (Sriver FX), you can do many variation with this set-up.
My guess is that you have not practice enough with this set-up.

For Yasaka Extra Offensive (YEO), my guess is it is developed from the succesful Yasaka OFFENSIVE blade, but even faster and has a larger sweet spot. Also made in Sweden (I assume, like the Stiga).
Kuntilanak is correct in his comment that it depends on your playing styles. If unsure, my recommendation is to use a "balanced" rubber like the Sriver EL. If you are the "smasher" type, a hard rubber (most Chinese rubbers fit into this)
like the H3 will be appropriate. If you like chopping, pushing and looping, then a softer rubbers like the Sriver FX, LKT Pro series or any of the European brand like Stiga or Andro or Tibhar will ft into this.

On a side note : For Brother kuntilanak, his meaning of budget is any rubbers costing < RM 100. Nowadays, most of the "mid-range and good" rubbers costing > RM80.00. For me, "budget" rubbers mean <RM50.00, mid-range RM50-RM120 and expensive rubbers >RM120.00. I am still using the following rubbers - H3 (costing < RM40), LKT Pro XP (RM30), Tulpe 007 (RM30), Sriver EL(RM80) and Andro COR Revolution (RM90-after discount). Which rubbers I used depends on my mood -sometimes I "suka-suka" change the combination as I find it cheaper as compared to owning many blades and rubbers. rclxub.gif


Added on June 25, 2012, 12:43 pm
QUOTE(Steven_aka_G @ Jun 25 2012, 10:14 AM)
Well, I'd recommend you don't use hurricane 3 for forehand as YEO isn't the most powerful of all bats and you might have a hard time generating some good speed with H3. Go with sriver instead.

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Agreed 100%. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by pingpang: Jun 25 2012, 12:43 PM
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Any1 got extra waterbase glue? my rubber already tertanggal a bit..
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post Jun 25 2012, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(pingpang @ Jun 25 2012, 12:42 PM)
Mexteman,

You wanna improve your game, practice more.
Practice your strokes - drive, loop, smash, push, block etc for both forehand and backhand.

Your Stiga NCT is a good blade. Coupled with a hard rubber (H3) and a soft rubber (Sriver FX), you can do many variation with this set-up.
My guess is that you have not practice enough with this set-up.

For Yasaka Extra Offensive (YEO), my guess is it is developed from the succesful Yasaka OFFENSIVE blade, but even faster and has a larger sweet spot. Also made in Sweden (I assume, like the Stiga).
Kuntilanak is correct in his comment that it depends on your playing styles. If unsure, my recommendation is to use a "balanced" rubber like the Sriver EL. If you are the "smasher" type, a hard rubber (most Chinese rubbers fit into this)
like the H3 will be appropriate. If you like chopping, pushing and looping, then a softer rubbers like the Sriver FX, LKT Pro series or any of the European brand like Stiga or Andro or Tibhar will ft into this.

On a side note : For Brother kuntilanak, his meaning of budget is any rubbers costing < RM 100. Nowadays, most of the "mid-range and good" rubbers costing > RM80.00. For me, "budget" rubbers mean <RM50.00, mid-range RM50-RM120 and expensive rubbers >RM120.00. I am still using the following rubbers - H3 (costing < RM40), LKT Pro XP (RM30), Tulpe 007 (RM30), Sriver EL(RM80) and Andro COR Revolution (RM90-after discount). Which rubbers I used depends on my mood -sometimes I "suka-suka" change the combination as I find it cheaper as compared to owning many blades and rubbers.  rclxub.gif


Added on June 25, 2012, 12:43 pm

Agreed 100%.  biggrin.gif
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Thanks for the supportive comment. thumbup.gif You are very knowledgeable too on the subject of Table Tennis. I've seen people with pretty bad play getting very good equipments, hoping their games will improve. Well, to a certain extent, yes, but it won't last. However, my experience tells me the bat is more important than rubber. You can still play fairly well with good bat coupled with cheap rubbers, but not the other way around. I tried before. It sucks... sweat.gif
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Thanks for the replies...


The bat is actually Yasaka Malin Extra Offensive.. but somehow many call it Malin YEO instead of MEO ??

Actually, I am quite happy with Stiga except want to try new setup hopefully can slip under the nose of my Auditor General's query ! at the same time, help the economy a bit ....


Ping Pang,
U r rite.. I don't stroke enough...coz previously I was not a believer of stroke thus rendering inconsistency in play...

Cheers...
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QUOTE(kuntilanak @ Jun 25 2012, 01:42 PM)
Thanks for the supportive comment.  thumbup.gif  You are very knowledgeable too on the subject of Table Tennis. I've seen people with pretty bad play getting very good equipments, hoping their games will improve. Well, to a certain extent, yes, but it won't last. However, my experience tells me the bat is more important than rubber. You can still play fairly well with good bat coupled with cheap rubbers, but not the other way around. I tried before. It sucks...  sweat.gif
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I beg to differ on this. I feel that a good bat can still feel completely awful with good rubbers. Take for example, Butterfly Mizutani Jun coupled with Acuda S2 and Tenergy 64. I've personally tried this setup and it felt pretty bad as I just couldn't feel the bat at all. The ball just flies out of the bat before it enters the sponge thus leaving it with little spin. It's more of how you play around the stiffness of the bat and the hardness of the rubber. You'll be surprised by how good a LKT instict+ feels when it is paired with LKT Pro XP. My first blade and it still has one of the best feelings among all my setups.
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Different play style need different equipment to compliment plays. all-round control, fast attack, defensive. Generally a blade quality is define by power,feel,control,consistency,and durability.a good manufacturer always has a benchmark comparing different product catering to different styles.My advice is learn what style you are adapting to or likes to play before choosing your blade.generally all wood blade are consider control blade with better feel than composite blade. for high end blade it is always balancing the power and feel(dwell). softer the sponge provides more dwell for looping but limits the power and vice versa. There is a rule of thumb for choosing a blade, if the setup you made can't 'lift' an underspin ball confidently with your current skill then it is not for you(advance player will understand this).If you are still in the stage of learning basics, a powerful fast blade with little feel and dwell is not for you either. Feel is very subjective.Most season players have developed a higher sensitivity, hence they can afford to go for harder more powerful setup to gain power advantage.

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