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cede1975
post Jan 9 2012, 02:19 AM

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Intermediate skill, picking up handshake, have a good FH stroke but weak BH. looking for partner to train and spar. Staying at Kajang Sungai chua. Been to star elite couple of times already. Please PM.
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post Mar 24 2012, 02:33 AM

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anyone going StarElite this coming Sunday session 10am-2pm?
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post Jun 26 2012, 01:09 AM

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Different play style need different equipment to compliment plays. all-round control, fast attack, defensive. Generally a blade quality is define by power,feel,control,consistency,and durability.a good manufacturer always has a benchmark comparing different product catering to different styles.My advice is learn what style you are adapting to or likes to play before choosing your blade.generally all wood blade are consider control blade with better feel than composite blade. for high end blade it is always balancing the power and feel(dwell). softer the sponge provides more dwell for looping but limits the power and vice versa. There is a rule of thumb for choosing a blade, if the setup you made can't 'lift' an underspin ball confidently with your current skill then it is not for you(advance player will understand this).If you are still in the stage of learning basics, a powerful fast blade with little feel and dwell is not for you either. Feel is very subjective.Most season players have developed a higher sensitivity, hence they can afford to go for harder more powerful setup to gain power advantage.
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post Jul 10 2015, 09:33 AM

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Hi All, I'm an average player. Looking forward to join any TT activity. I stay at Kajang Sungai CHua, work at Puchong. After works 530pm near puchong would be fine.
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post Jan 3 2019, 10:14 AM

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Average player looking for TT kaki at Kajang area.
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post Jan 3 2019, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(empire @ Jan 3 2019, 11:25 AM)
sigh.... looks like all the Ping Pong kakis are spread all over  sad.gif
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Where and when do you usually play?
I dont mind going to Jln Ipoh.
cede1975
post Jan 3 2019, 01:31 PM

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Anyone here still play at star elite puchong regularly?
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post Jan 3 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(tsd @ Oct 15 2018, 05:39 PM)
They are almost the same, H3 is the older version, where last time people would use speed glue to expand its sponge, hence stretched the rubber, making it very powerful ( speed glue is banned now ). Without speed glue, the normal H3 rubber is quite bland. Although speed glue is banned there are still other ways to expand its sponge, nowadays they use thing called booster.

To use speed glue/booster effectively, you need special skills. You can make a very powerful rubber out of the normal H3 or you can ruin it.

H3 Neo uses a different kind of sponge and it does not need speed glue or boosting. You can use the H3 Neo right out of the box. Although H3 Neo out of the box, may not be able to match those crazy speed glued/boosted traditional H3, H3 Neo is still nice and good enough to play a good game.

So... for easy life, just get the H3 Neo. If you want optimum performance with boosting job, you can get the normal H3 ( but no guarentee that the boosting will work or perform better or perform the same each time you boost ).
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H3 without speedgluing is a dead rubber.
H3 neo is a 1st gen tensile rubber, poor attempt of chinese rubber to counter the speedglue ban. Its a factory 'tuned' pre applied speed glued rubber(its too technical to explain why factory can use speed glue while at regulated tournament cant, main factor is curing time) . H3 neo has short lifespan and when it dies u need to 'speed glue it to revive it, chinese speed glue their special grade H3 neo the night before each game.

Basically as amateur u can do whatever u want. But speed glue itself is pretty much extinct.
its 2018 now, there are all slews of branded cheap 3rd 4th 5th gen tensile rubber. speed gluing is extinct.
If you got money to spare and plays regularly, cant go wrong with bty tenergy.

cede1975
post Jan 4 2019, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(tsd @ Jan 3 2019, 05:09 PM)
ya, those new generation rubber do feels nice to play, they do generate very strong shots but the problem is the price. No way I am spending that amount of money on them, unless I am sponsored by someone else. Sometimes we think all the national players are using tenergy, therefore we must use it also. The only reason I believe the national players are using it is because they are not paying for it, they are all getting tenergy for free.

Although those tensor rubber do generate greater speed ans spin, on paper it is an advantage over a player with lower grade equipment, but in reality it might not be true. Producing heavy shots sometimes can be a liability, if you get a good blocker with a regular smooth rubber or pimples rubber, your heavy high speed top spin may come back to destroy yourself. 

So  I feel, a decent rubber with a good grip and consistent in play is good enough.
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Yah, as what im saying if you can afford it. why not? I blame our weak currency. kids are training with tensiles and carbon blade nowadays, they have no problem with control and power delivery.

From my experience using tenergy n xiom, the grip and elastiticy is almost 3 times durable than xioms. tenergy are really built to last.

This post has been edited by cede1975: Jan 4 2019, 04:44 PM
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post Jan 4 2019, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(n8210 @ Jan 4 2019, 08:20 AM)
I recently watched in person, a few chinese players playing, and find that their smash are super powerful, with that awesome burst of power. How do we create that extra energy, that burst? When we smash the sound is not loud, but when the chinese smashes the sound is so loud, so different, and the speed is so so fast. Our smash is more like their training time, where u practice return and pace only... normal speed, not fast, not loud. Also their hand only swings from hip to forehead. Such short distance but produces a big bang.
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Apparently you can still get haifu speedglue/booster at taobao. being chinese, im almost sure they are using speedglue. the speedglue smash sound is very distinctive. higher pitch then any new tensiles.

There are hardcore way of speedglueing and simpler faster way. i would recommend using haifu speedglue/booster, i believe it is not up to haedcore speedgluing but really simple to apply.

you can pretty much youtube and learn how to do speedglue and order all ur stuff from taobao i guess.

ive tried speedglueing my bryce speed on cypress max before, its only nice for few hours top, short game u lost the bounce(bryce stiffer top rubber), power drive u get the speed(from sponge and hinoki hit). but u will find after the effect died u are left with a pretty bounceless rubber. ive seen chinese blade in real tht is so heavily glued sponge is so thicken frm it.

Ive learned abt speedglueing when i met someone playing black sriver w speedglue many many long years ago. It was an elevating experience. I instantly able to consistantly drive long underspin with his bat with ease. It was a eureka for me then. Anyone who is experience enough will tell you if u got ur swing right u are only a quarter away from getting it right,equipment really matters.

One thing though, eventhough the idea is simple but hitting hard through rubber is quite demanding too. I would say thts the main reason i switch to new softer tensiles.

i believe techNology is ever evolving, if there's an opportunity to try, why not?

Im not discouraging anyone frm using speedglue. i believe thts the beauty of amateur, u can do whatever you feel you enjoy the game most.

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post Jan 7 2019, 10:48 AM

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I believe you are all discussing TT of a bygone era. RSM is using jpen hinoki design for max hitting power (80% of his drives are through board from hinoki). His swing is a standard lashing with maximum extended when he is in a control shot. This style has already since obselete because of better bat design/adaptation of carbon blade which can give devastation punch block return. it basically killed RSM plays. His golden era was when using 38mm balls. Anyone who played 38mm before knows how easy to get blue black frm the smashes. jpen hinoki+38mm is very scary.

Fast forward to now, you can just look at 15yo Tomokazu harimoto plays in youtube. seriously a 15yo got what strenght and body weight? do u all seriously think speed alone can win an ITTF championship? The kid can deliver sufficient spin/power for the kills all thanks to modern equiptment.

Even womens teams are going to balance and not only speed alone, speed player like AI fukuhara has to adapt and do power training all the time.

I doubt anyone who is just an adult amateur can even match the speed/power/control of even 50% of this 15yo.

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post Jan 7 2019, 02:07 PM

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Anyone got TT session on SAT/SUN morning i could join? my skill average.
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post Jan 7 2019, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(tsd @ Jan 7 2019, 03:35 PM)
wow, looks like cede1975 is all fired up and ready to play smile.gif
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Hoping can get engine running again.
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post Jan 15 2019, 01:33 PM

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PM me before 18 Jan. I will book 2hrs morning session sunday 20Jan at forum 19.

Those who stay near Kajang/bangi can come train at Altec kajang utama. rm80 4 x2hrs session/mnth.

Kelab Ping Pong ALTEC
33-3, Jalan Seksyen 3/9, Taman Bukit Mewah, 43000 Kajang, Selangor
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post Jan 18 2019, 11:46 AM

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This ERT TT youtube channel not bad.

https://youtu.be/mu1NSTuwdtw
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post Jan 18 2019, 01:33 PM

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"In Pai": Prepare your stroke like a professional table tennis player


https://youtu.be/DVyqYTg1roU
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post Jan 18 2019, 01:55 PM

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Table Tennis Exercises to Improve Footwork

https://youtu.be/KWYUFnwGEf0
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post Jan 18 2019, 05:20 PM

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Amzing 5years old championship.


https://youtu.be/pw_ybaMBur4
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post Jan 22 2019, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(tsd @ Jan 19 2019, 05:22 PM)
anyone joining you for your game on Sunday ?
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No responce. tak jadi.


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post Jan 23 2019, 04:54 PM

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Chiobu teach u how to do backhand flick

https://youtu.be/Bkn99qEsPl4

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