Hi,

looking for places to play in the afternoon around 2 / 3 pm till 6 /7 pm on tuesday, wednesday and thursday in klang valley...

please share if you know any venues or pm me at 012 201 7676

cheers

roger

Very different from me, looks like everyone is different. I love competition. Being in a competition has a different kind of feeling, you cant get if you dont compete. Over the years I still play table tennis for the sake of exercise, I only bounce ball on the wall and whack ball over the net at home. Feeling is totally different.  Although I do wish to play active again but unfortunately I cant.

Some  people feel "upset" when they lose and "happy" when they win, this is normal. It is a type of feeling we get, is part of our life. Imagine if we live a life that never experienced "upset" or "happy". So when people get "upset" when they lose, let them be its normal. If he becomes "lcly" when winning, just let them be ... and us watching them getting "upset" and  "lcly" also a nice thing to experience.

Coming back to table tennis,

"lcly" players may do well in normal practice because they have been doing the same stroke, same spot, same strength every single day. If one person play with the same player, even before his partner hit the ball, he already know here the ball is going and how to return.BUT in tournament, it is very different, environment is different, players body language are different, incoming ball behaviour are different... whatever we used to do may not work, all need adjustments. I am sure you have seen in those table-tennis club, they can do their bullet fast blocks and top spin flawlessly for hours but during tournament, they cant even block or do topspin for more than 3 balls. 

So it has to go back to how strong is the foundation and how fast a person can adapt to the changes. Foundation can obtain easily be but only through competitive games you can acquire the skills of "ability to adapt" fast. So, join more competition, whenever you see someone new come in... play with him ( even if he is a beginner because you never know because sometimes you may get that kind of shot during tournament from experienced players ).  During my playing days, I always give my opponent a surprise "beginners" type no spin shot to upset their rhythm.

U can come to balakong if you are Average

Where exactly at balakong? anymore details pls?

a good player has correct stroke(weight shift,waist twist,ball timings) and most importantly footwork. the amateur u see simply fails at footwork. Footwork is the one thing many amateurs fail at. and many 'coaches' fail to teach. They 'think' they have superior six sense when hitting tht spectacular money ball off balance once in a blue moon and gave them false pretence they can repeat it again and thot it is their invented style. This is the most common mistake that amateur falls into and affix how they play forever.

Table tennis strokes, footwork, tactics is a continuity chain of event. If u are god at each individually but fail to connect all the skills,even a well trained 10 years old can eat you for breakfast.

a phrase used by chinese national coaches is 'the quality of shot'. These are the shots that is not hit by luck. Best spins and most importantly it lands where u want it to.

Just ask those amateurs with superhuman reflex, do they even know where their money balls will land?

Only way to achieve quality of shots is through constant drills and a perfect footwork. There is no other way. It is really that simple. This is true for badminton, tennis, squash.

ya... in F19 there are a few players who have the ' look at his bat with disbelief' each time they hit the ball into the net. It's a silly way of trying to blame the bat so that he will feel better that it is the bat that is the issue and not him.

you are right, footwork is very important. You have to move fast and be in correct position very fast. Another thing overlooked by many coach is how too read opponents body language to prepare movement to the best possible location to return the ball. From service to regular strokes, opponent body language can tell a lot, even when they do a fake body movement, still there will be some slight difference.

For example, when you someone hit bottom part of the ball with the shoulder/elbow/wrist moving slightly upwards on contact, 90% will be a top spin, even though it looks like a bottom spin serve ( unless he faked it, this is when the art of fake body language comes in ).  Another thing is how to read ball flight and bounce pattern, that will help when you failed to see how the ball is being hit on the opponents bat.

All these were thought by my former coach, too bad it was too late for me to pick up these skills.

Just look at this video, one of the player is from my era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1tJMf2qriA

That fellow, if ball lands on the same spot or nearby, he can block and hit for hours without a single miss. But when game starts, when balls start to fly everywhere.. just see how he perform. He was just too slow to move to the best position to return ball. So skills is nothing unless you can move to the good position fast enough to execute your skills.

As those video of super tiny below 10 year old, I am afraid they may not be real ( on the spot or controlled strokes maybe can ). Whoever loses to those tiny 10 year old kids must be doing a self inflicted loss.  When player are still physically too small in size they have huge disadvantage. They simply cannot reach certain ball fast enough, they can only win if you send the ball to where he is all the time.

Harimoto won his 1st world champion at the age of 14. This is the new age of table tennis. If you have time just go puchong star elite and see the quality of young kids under 15. Malaysia also are picking up.

So anyone of you in forum 19 using penhold? Nowadays penhold players are rare species.

Lets say, I play with a tiny fellow from star elite.  All I need is to do a short side spin curve serve, make the ball bounce off the table right near the net. The only way a tiny fellow to reach that ball is to run to the left side to retrieve because his hand will be too short to do a flick. He has to run tot he side to return that ball, once he returned it, I send a curved ball to his right, off the table near net again on the right this time. He has to run from from left to right, he will never reach there on time.  Even if he manage to reach there, I do left and so on... how long can he survive ?

As for Harimoto, he is tall enough even though when ie was only 14. He could easily reach short ball from the back of the table, no need to go to the side to retrieve
Although I may sound negative, in reality, they may look impressive but they are only good for the on the spot strokes. Don't give them too much praise until they until they are tall enough, then you see how they perform. A lot of them are are just too comfortable ( after getting a lot pf praises ) doing on the spot strokes until they refuse to learn how to move effectively.

Why are you bullying 6 year olds?

Anyway, your basis for that is in the scenario that the kid does not have a tactic against you. Kids that train will always be playing with older and taller adults during the club's session and you think they are not accustomed to what you mentioned? Yes, it's a fine tactic on paper. But do you have the capabilities of executing it? And what makes you think the kid can't have precautions against those tactics? Skills are also an important factor in this. I'm not sure on the level of the players in Star Elite but go to PJ Union and play with the kids there. Those kids have been playing with national players like Chee Feng and most of the current Selangor state players. I dare say your tactic won't be so easily applied there.

I do agree that yes, stroking is easy for a lot of people and there are scenarios that people can't perform in a match despite being able to stroke for long period of time non stop. It all boils down to tactics and who can get the ball back on the opponent's table more.

You are talking about a different thing.

I am talking about those small sized little kids who cant even reach halfway into the table, with "over-hyped" promotions, that was the discussion. 

Those curve left and right ball is easy to do lah. Even a simple bottom spin near the net with a reverse bounce will get those small sized kids in trouble. I am not talking about those bigger sized kids.

If you tell me star elte and pj union or any place that have any kids that can't even reach half-way into the table and tell me I cant deal with them ? you must be kidding. I dare to bet with you with everything I have.  Not just me, in fact anyone who can play decent table tennis will dare to take up the challenge.

Whether that small kid train with chee feng or ma long or anyone else, makes no difference. He still cant play in real competitive game until he is tall enough, of cos sometimes we do see them in competition but whoever losses to them are mostly self-inflicted loss.