Now days Panasonic WH no more switch to control water On & Off?
I just survey last week, from Push ON Off button to rotate On Off knob, now totally remove? means only can use the inlet valve to control which i quite worry it will break.

I'm looking at basic with no pump model.

Many WH had moved out of having a switch to control the on/off, there hv a sensor to detect water flow, so as turn on the water valve, it switches on the heater. Whats important is to have heater controller and pump controller

Ya, i just notice that. I so used to have On/Off water switch, as no need to adjust water flow. Once is set, just press the button each time. Convenient for my kids too. Else they keep adjust the water flow.

Water flow valve nowadays are sturdy, and it also empowers the user, if the flow is too high and heat is lesser then one can adjust it, else just open the valve full all the time as a ON switch...its a matter of getting use to it

Im using it in that manner for 20yrs, and no issue with the valve. My older unit did have the ON/OFF switch

hi..

for those who using water heater tank ..
the piping is conceal or expose ?
if expose can show photo for the shower head and the hot .cold water piping ?

thanks...

Mine over the roof is exposed and then to the bathroom is concealed. What are you trying to find out?

my blue piping leaking ,not able to reached the leaking area to repair ..
so the repair men suggest change the whole blue piping ..will lay outside wall instead of conceal ..

he told the storage tank tap cannot use back ..caused the tap connector need to conceal , not able to lock on the wall ...
he suggest install instant water heater ..dont use the tank ...

cooper piping also expensive he told ...

thanks ...

any brand model to recommend for instant water heater ?

thanks ..

Own use, Panasonic with push on off. Rental just get cheapest SIRIM approved.

From almost 30 years ago with National push on off model until today’s Panasonic they are the only one I know that uses push button on off

Not sure if got others, if yes please share. It is super easy to use.

What you talking? Who say don’t have?

Isn’t this Panasonic on/off model?

And don’t listen to the dumb dumb. Panasonic still has the water flow valve if you want to adjust it. But it’s usually a set and forget affair.

Yes, there are still some models who still uses On/OFF buttons, it all depends on consumer's preference. No right or wrong.

Pana M and N series still has them together with Joven SC model. Not sure of any other brands/models.

This is a tough one! I too have similar problem, and was contemplating if I want to fit a instant heater.
I have a storage tank that feeds to my tub, sink and a shower. The pipe that goes to shower is block, the plumber tried various way, to clear the block, but nothing worked.

Finally decide to stopo using the shower area, since I have a tub which can also be used as shower and 2 other bathrooms.

In your case, you may look into, not hacking the wall, but re-piping on surface with casing, that will help for future repair works and doesnt look that bad.

And yes, the other option is to fit instant heater

Personally, I dont there is a THE brand, it depends on what you want and the look/design of it, which is very much individual liking. If you want lesser noise, look for DC motor types, and if you dont mind noise, then AC motor has a little bit more power. Long time ago, the gap of the water pressure was higher, but nowadays, its much closer.

Look at the energy rating and warranty as well. Personally I like Alpha, but there are many more new players in the market like Deka, etc, do check those out.

will re piping on wall surface ..but how the casing look like ?mostly the piping just no surface never see got casing ...

think will go for Centon Atlantics model ..newer model compare Serene ....
price for Atlantics about rm500 with rain shower ..price should be reasonable right ?

thanks ...

This is example of mine ...wanted to do casing for my wiring, just havent had the time yet.


This post has been edited by VeeJay: May 12 2025, 11:49 AM

Is this your DIY job?

Yes....looks bad huh?!

Yeah. The power cable can be rerouted upward and down to be out of the way. And if the shower unit can be relocated to the left, it would also make things a lot neater...

the heater any shower maybe can interchange the place ....
the casing is metal ..not worried rusty after sometimes ?

the on off incoming valve smooth to turning on and off ? isnt good quality ? looking for smooth type valve ..can recommend?

thanks ...

The casing is PVC and not metal.
The shower rod is metal, and my whole unit is 20 years old, no rust thus far. Previously my family had Pana, and switched to Beebest back then, which is similar to Aplha.
The valve, been working smoothly for 20 yrs.

I went with this model, since it has both temp and pump controller. Back then not many models has pump controller.

oh..is pvc...

the valve brand italy 1/2 size ?
when turning the valve open the whole thing firm ?will have a litter moving?

why do you need pump controller?

thanks