Features, design, look.

Just buy the cheapest Panasonic water heater if you don't need fancy features.

I don't know if all are the same.

I know I have a National water heater that served for 15+ years. And National is now known as Panasonic.
Panasonic is the top 10 consumer electronics company in the whole world.

IF brand A, a local brand, is almost the same price versus Panasonic, I will buy the Panasonic. Why? Panasonic have a good history for me, and my other appliances by Panasonic -- fridge, air con, all work well. I won't buy a small local brand cause who knows if they will still be in business tomorrow? And do they have the resources to do the QC? Or they just import it white label from a factory in China and sell it here? I dunno, and don't want to waste my time to think about it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_(brand)



Air con need to service every year. Cause use more. Last time air con don’t use that often as weather was cooler. At least that’s my case.

The Panasonic air con that’s not cold is is the inverter series for me. The R22 normal air con still going strong.

Off topic d. But yes my air con need to service every 15 months averagely. Open and wash the indoor unit, cause I do 0 maintenance on it myself. On 24/7.

No add gas just wash the dust.

What for?
Just buy the basic Panasonic with push on/off. Pump if you need it.

The temperature usually set and forget. Don’t need anything fancy.

The internal heating elements are the same across the cheap and expensive models.

Because Panasonic is the son of the great National elephant water heater.

Actually no brainer, Panasonic is the best choice versus any other brands, don’t need to spend a lot to buy the high end ones. Just decide if you want push on/off which I feel is safer and more convenient or the water valve ones. And whether you need pump or not.

Just get the Panasonic with pump. Should do the trick. It’ll have the same push to on/off the unit with water flow, which you are used to. No need to fuss around with the water flow tap.

If the heating element no longer working yes. But mine more than 10 years.. Panasonic’s ancestor… National brand with the whale still working fine… shit it is 2024… more than 20 years.

Panasonic is good… push to start ones convenient and easy to use. No need to play around with the water valve every time to turn on.

Electrician tell me Toshiba is crap from China.. he install for me in my guest room. I bought it because it’s cheap. lol. He see it fail way more than Joven and Alpha our local brand..

This post has been edited by Jason: May 16 2024, 01:56 AM

2012 you feedback Pensonic lousy
Then you bought Cornell? 😂

I recently bought Pensonic cause it’s cheap… see how it fares. But my own house use I won’t buy Pensonic for sure. I think their stuff despite made in Malaysia no quality. I bought a Pensonic stand fan a year ago, it died exactly 1 year mark so I send for warranty claim in PJ. Their service center looks run down and when I enter a lady was claiming the exact same fan! Chatted with her and she said she bought 3 from Lotus’s and all spoiled within 6 months.

Surprisingly cheap Midea water heater is going strong for with heavy use (3 pax shower daily).

Good points. If house already have a central pump like Grundfos, don't need to buy water heater with pump... waste money.

In fact if the water pressure is very high, need to turn down the flow else the water won't heat up enough.

Own use, Panasonic with push on off. Rental just get cheapest SIRIM approved.

From almost 30 years ago with National push on off model until today’s Panasonic they are the only one I know that uses push button on off

Not sure if got others, if yes please share. It is super easy to use.

What you talking? Who say don’t have?

Isn’t this Panasonic on/off model?

And don’t listen to the dumb dumb. Panasonic still has the water flow valve if you want to adjust it. But it’s usually a set and forget affair.

I use Joven and Seers. Never heard of Rheem.

I know Centon brand. Many property developers use Joven, and new house come with it. My Seers is good, 5 years and doing strong.

Joven also quite good la, my gf house 12 years+ it died. Replaced with Midea. Then found out neighbors call Joven to come repair by replacing the heating element. 12 years plus consider good lo.

I would choose Joven. Or Midea. Centon maybe. Rheem I never hear before so won’t bother. Seers very expensive, I won’t choose it now since I don’t need energy savings.

Flow determined by water pressure ma not the water heater. Hotter or not see the wattage. I think majority all 3.6kW with some special units catered to lower input temp with higher wattages.

Why need to change? Heating performance deteriorate? I still like the Panasonic push button on/off.

This post has been edited by Jason: Jul 19 2025, 09:23 PM