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post Sep 8 2020, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(myproblem @ May 27 2020, 03:41 PM)
Those of you wish to install storage heater, I would suggest you have to think twice before buying Joven product. I have used Joven before and was long lasting but I am not sure now.

Purchase a 35L JH35HE On Oct 2015.
Heating element died and replaced on Jan 2019 (Died around 3.3 years)

Then same element died and replaced on Jul 2019 (died 6 months)

In March 2020, the same element died again (died 8 months).

Now changing to another brand.

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I'm using jh35...heating element died after 1years plus ...used for another 5years ...the hot water outlet become leak and electrical shock ...

now see your jh35he model also not so durable even energy saving type ...

QUOTE(adamw @ May 27 2020, 05:05 PM)
Yes, Joven last time was good. My original lasted almost 15 years. After replacing another Joven, element dead within 1 1/2 years. So messy to change until my ceiling all wet.
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so still using the joven storage tank ? or change to others ?

QUOTE(blanket84 @ Jun 14 2020, 01:53 PM)
Damn.. I was planning to buy the same model until I read this  sweat.gif

So what brand do you recommend?
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so final installed what brand of the storage tank ?

QUOTE(myproblem @ Jun 25 2020, 08:41 PM)
I don't care now, just bought Midea because Modes offers 7 years warranty for tank and 4 years on heating element.

I don't trust other brand that only offers 1 year warranty.

For Midea at least I don't have to bother for 4-5 years
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how long been using MIDea brand of the storage tank ?
so far so good?
may i know the model ?

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post Sep 8 2020, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(0saka9 @ Sep 4 2020, 10:36 PM)
hello guys, anyone using Storage Water Heater, can recommend a good brand? I was using a Elton Electric Storage Water Heater but now leaking. Since it is out of warranty already so thinking of getting a new one. Thanks.
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my joven jh35 now leak also ...wonder any other brands better for storage tank ?

so already bought your storage tank ?wat model?

thanks ?
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post Sep 8 2020, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 8 2020, 08:35 AM)
I'm using Joven the 35L and the heater element shorted after more than 10 years. This is normal since the copper is always submerged in the water. The point near the socket looked like a bit corroded and that I suspected causing the MCB to trip.

The shop where I bought the unit told me that normally people just change to new unit instead. I asked if they sell replacement heater. They said yes and and it cost only RM90. A new similar since would be more than RM500 if not mistaken.

There are 2 type. One is straight with single bend and the other one is shorter where the heater element is folded to make is shorter. I chose the longer straight one so the heat location is more spread. Original one is long also.

Tried to change myself but the space is tight and the locking hex nut size to very wide. If use bigger wrench also cannot slide in that tight space. I asked the shop if they have any contact fro person who is doing heater installation. They have.

The guy said he devised his own tool for this specific purpose  :thumbsup:  Replacement took about half an hour and now it has been probably 5 years already.

The heater is still okay on top of the ceiling and no corrosion or leak.
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your model is jh35? vertical or horizontal?

last for 10years more consider very good ...use for so long still no leaking?
my heating element die after 1years plus ....change heating element cost me rm250...the price for heating element less than rm100

so you managed to change the heating element by yourself?
steps can teach ?


QUOTE(adamw @ Sep 8 2020, 10:02 AM)
Touch wood, after changing element still working!
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that's great ....



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post Sep 8 2020, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 8 2020, 10:18 AM)
Haven't buy any yet. Still doing research, probably by next week only need to decide.
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can share what brand and model that already in your list ?

thanks ..
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post Sep 8 2020, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 8 2020, 10:28 AM)
Joven or Elton only. But Elton is pricier. Couldn't find much review though.
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miDea not in your list ?

QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 8 2020, 10:49 AM)
Mine is Horizontal. Cannot remember the model but 35L one and only one JH for horizontal, right?

Like I said, I cannot replace myself because no proper tool. It is not difficult. Just remove the wire and turn the heat element out. The element base has screw thread.

As I mentioned, big opening spanner is bulky and space is tight. You cannot unscrew from side. No space. Blocked by wiring cover etc. You need something like big hex spanner that can be inserted straight from behind the heater base. The heater element should be around Rm100 or RM120 the most. If RM250 for everything, then the next fault is worth replacing the whole unit  laugh.gif

I remembered spending Rm120 for everything, meaning the guy only took RM300 ( hmm.gif ). I bought the element RM90 myself and was on the ceiling helping the guy when needed like handing him towel to wipe water  laugh.gif

I have removed all the water through bleeding pipe. The installed said no need to put small bleeding pipe there but I insisted and it drip water into bathroom. Luckily I insisted. Still there was a lot of water flowed out after removing the heater.

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only rm30 for the installation ....super cheap ...

QUOTE(adamw @ Sep 8 2020, 12:31 PM)
Maybe last time always forget to off it! Turn on hot enough to make coffee. Now I used smart water heater switch, set to 8mins auto off.
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how the smart water heater switch look like ?

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post Sep 8 2020, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Sep 8 2020, 01:42 PM)
Just use smart switch to replace the normal 20A wall switch and program using apps in phone I guess. Nowadays, there are a number of product available. last time no 20A switch
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sunon brand something like that ?

QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 8 2020, 01:47 PM)
I'm a bit wary of using unpopular brand. Scared hard to get spare parts if something goes wrong. Like unpopular car brands in Malaysia  sweat.gif
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spare parts ....do you expect how long the tank can last ?
miDea 4years heating element..7year tank leak warranty ...
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 8 2020, 06:06 PM)
Since there aren't much mechanical parts in the system, I would expect them to last at least 10-15years except for the heating element.
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ic ...that's great have that thinking...

so when to install your joven tank ?and decided which model to go?

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post Sep 8 2020, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 8 2020, 06:26 PM)
Don't know yet. Still waiting for defects to be rectified. Hopefully next week can start reno. Started to lose my patience already.

I'm looking for 35L one.. so if Joven would be JH35 I guess..
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already sourcing the price ? jh35 ..jh35he ..jh35ib..jh35heib...

got few models ...so ..which model ?

thanks ...
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post Sep 9 2020, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 8 2020, 07:36 PM)
Eh. I didn't realized got so many. I saw in their website only vertical & horizontal model only.

Already asked around the price.
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what's the price ?
installation charge how much ?

QUOTE(adamw @ Sep 8 2020, 09:43 PM)
great ...
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post Sep 9 2020, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Sep 9 2020, 08:39 AM)
I got quoted RM610. But i think that’s the basic model. No HE nor IB. I will ask again when I’m really buying.

Installation by my plumber. Price quoted lump sum including installing hot water pipes & everything.
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good price ....
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post Sep 10 2020, 12:57 PM

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order miDea 30Ltank yesterday .rm..348

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post Sep 12 2020, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(opfish @ Sep 12 2020, 07:08 PM)
I’m planning to buy the horizontal Joven 25l with HE. But one of the shops told me that her customers complained of corrosion & Joven’s slow customer service. She recommended Alpha storage heater instead.

Anyone using Alpha now?
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25l vs 35l price different not many ...why not instal 35l?

corrosion on which part ?
slow customer support maybe depend on area I think ...
btw joven still popular...
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post Sep 20 2020, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(-YS- @ Sep 20 2020, 02:03 AM)
where you get it so cheap?
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lzd..on 99 ..but till now not yet receive ...maybe kena scam..
sale cheap price but ship nothing...
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post Sep 23 2020, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 22 2020, 09:29 AM)
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Good news! The water heater exploded last night.

Is this a problem with the water heater itself or a repair job badly done by the technician? Where can I file a complaint if I want to?
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what's the brand of the storage heater?

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post Sep 23 2020, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 23 2020, 12:35 PM)
A brand that doesn’t exist anymore probably - Meru.
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oh...so now need replace with new storage heater or instant heater or solar heater?
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post Sep 24 2020, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 24 2020, 10:28 AM)
Preferred instant one which is installed on the wall but contractor said I must use back the storage type. I don't know why.

He said there's an instant tankless type which is installed in the ceiling. Has anyone come across this type?
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caused of the piping need use back the storage tank ..

so already install tankless instant heater ?or still back to storage heater ?
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post Sep 25 2020, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 24 2020, 11:18 PM)
Plumber told me there's a tankless instant type that's installed in the ceiling. I'm looking for it.
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so do you found it ?
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post Sep 27 2020, 06:37 AM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 26 2020, 01:16 AM)
Nope. Gonna get the storage type in the end.
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tank installed ?
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post Sep 27 2020, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 27 2020, 09:41 AM)
Tomorrow
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joven 35l tank?

remember to install valve for incoming water b4 go in the tank ..this is easy for plumber or heating element changing ...no need switch off the main water supply ..
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post Sep 29 2020, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Sep 24 2020, 11:18 PM)
Plumber told me there's a tankless instant type that's installed in the ceiling. I'm looking for it.
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https://www.lazada.com.my/products/stiebel-...BSABEgJflfD_BwE


tankless heater ..

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