I've got something to add... Study what you Really like... And get rich doing what you like to do..

here:

http://www.utp.edu.my

i'm a Petroleum Engineering student (1st yr 1st sem) in UTP
for ur info, i think 90% UTP students r sponsored n hv scholarships from various GLCs,Private firm,Govt Agencies

the catch is this:

u apply online, wait for the result
if accepted, hv to attend Educamp at UTP (like 2nd session for interviews n etc)
if successfull,offer letter will be sent to u.............along with Scholarship offer letter from the respective sponsors

the sponsors "eye" students applying to enter UTP....so u dont hv 2 find 1 on ur own

n if u r asking is it worthy....it's very worth ur money n whateva u put up to get into UTP

i think....i mean very seriously think it's 1 of the best places to study in Malaysia
the site,buildings,facilities,courses,international students, n all that is UTP is great

last bt not least: UTP's employment rate is 100%......no one jual anggur frm here...

hey everyone,

Just wondering whether you guys can help me out alil bit.
Im actually looking for a college/uni which offers night classes for students who wants to work and study at the same time.

Preferred course will be Engineering.

Thanks alot for your help.

i want to ask a question..
i get very low mark in co-curiculum..
does it makes me harder to go to univercity or college?
thanks..

Nowadays with the entrance for university particularly public university (IPTA) intensified, co-curriculum marks will be quite important though i personally think that the academic result will remain the determining factor. It will be taken into account when there are two or more students with same results applying for the same university.

Not really true... yeah maybe employment rate is 100% but not in the related field. Some of my friends graduate on time from UTP still have trouble to find decent jobs. Ends out being a teacher, customer service, etc. Plus some companies already blacklisted UTP students.. especially those with Pet scholars. One problem is because some students screwed up their internship, the company trus blacklist UTP student, plus Pet scholars tend to not notify their current employer they're bonded with Petronas. When Petronas panggil they just leave like that, some have to pay before leave (my friend kene rm4k).

Btw i would say that UTP is a very good place to further your study, with the facilities and environment plus a very concerned Rector, and quite a number of hot chicks, etc

i'm sure they will have it for those working adults or mature students eg. part time classes as the classes will be held in the evenings on weekdays and on weekends lor..but engineering i'm not sure..y dun u check with the unis then.

ok....
i'm not tat bright...
i'm facing spm next week...
and my trial oni got 4a's....
and i can tell tat my SPM results wont b gud enuff for any offer...
wat r my chances?
through my undserstanding,
de basic thing u nid is STPM rite? o A levels...wat so ever...
wat abt de IPTA and IPTS?
do they nid STPM results too?
and wat can should i do if i cant cope wif STPM?
heard it is 1 of the toughest exams....but i would like try it...
any suggestions??
btw,
which iz much better?
STPM or straight to college?

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Added on November 1, 2008, 12:01 amand btw,
can u not take math subjects in STPM?
juz oni science can ah???


This post has been edited by sayang: Nov 1 2008, 12:01 AM

Hey people I'm new to this forum (: I joined typically because of this thread ( Haha! ).

Anyways, I fear that my results in my trials ( SPM ) and SPM itself will not be valid. You see, I've tried very hard but I can't seem to pass in my BM ( Bahasa Malaysia ). I've tried hard and I'm actually on a margent of a migraine now since I've just revised on all the Penanda wanana(s), rumusan and novels. And SPM is eleven days from now! But I was just pondering, what would happen to me if I failed in my BM? I know they ARE consequences but I can't seem to get a keen and thorough definition and view of what the consequences would be.

So if you would be so kind, would you please tell me what I should expect so I shall be better prepared for the obstacles ahead?

Oh and just incase you were wondering what my interests in studies are, ( to help specifically answer my questions or out of sheer curiousity). I'd love to further my studies in courses relating to life sciences/biology, particularly botany. I have a passion for plants and I don't think I could bore myself studying in this path. I also indulge in writing ( I have a flair ), particularly the editting for newspapers and magazines kinda - sort. But, I'm afraid that my BM results for SPM would hinder this ambition of mine and possibly taint it

So in short ;;

What would happen if I failed in my BM?
If I had to retake the july's BM paper, do I have to pay and what if I failed in that too?
Does mass communication fit my description for editting and writing? If its another field PLEASE do mention.
What is the difference between going to a local university and private university?
If, let's say I desire to go overseas to study ( and I'm financially stable, just saying for this case ), what would be the first advisable step after SPM ?

Please answer as much of my questions as you can . Do not chide my questions, and try not to be fastidious too, please. I'm just a boy curious and wanting to prepare for the future to come. Thank you.

Hi ragdolls,

saw ur long reply and questions. i think if u fail ur BM, u will be sent to either taiwan or mainland china (pending u pass their acceptance test too).

also i heard u might be sent to Indonesia by our goverment, to brush up on ur Bahasa.

so dont worry, malaysia airlines got direct flights to those mentioned places, in and out.

Good Luck!

You see, the basic procedure to get a degree is like this:

SPM/O-Level -> Pre-u -> Degree

Common pre-U in Malaysia: Matriks / STPM / Foundation

Matriks (Matrikulasi):
- takes about 1 year.
- the certificate is only recognized by Local Uni (a.k.a. IPTA).
- if you are not a bumiputera, u need two things to get in matriks, luck and an excellent result. (90% of Matriks students are Malays.)
- relatively easy and semester base.
- easier to enroll into IPTA compared to any other path.
STPM:
- takes about 2 years.
- the certificate is more widely recognized compared to matriks, it is recognized by both IPTA and IPTS.
- relatively hard, very wide scope and everything is determined by one examination.
- way harder to enroll into IPTA compared to Matriks students.
Foundation:
- takes about 1 year.
- a course in a university before you start your degree course.
- for the foundation of IPTA (a.ka.a asasi), similiar to matriks, if you are not a bumiputera...
- for the foundation of IPTS, this could be the most expensive path.

Beside these, you can also choose to take A-Level, which is simliar and equivalent to STPM. (Or you can say STPM is Malaysia version of A-Level.)

There is no way that you can take science subjects without taking mathematics in STPM.
Anyway, science and mathematics are somehow related in many ways, engineering, science and IT all require mathematics.

If you choose college, means:
SPM -> Diplomma -> Degree
You can stop at Diplomma if you want but please be reminded that degree>diplomma (rank).

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Added on November 4, 2008, 12:07 amLOL, I will just skip, hope you don't mind.

- Fail BM = no SPM certificate for you, pretty much means you're doomed.
- Not sure wheter you need to pay for it or not but most probably it isn't free and won't be very expensive.
- Fail again? Haha, retake again! (unless you don't want your SPM of course.)
- The most significant difference would be the fee, IPTS is way more expensive.
- Gather up information?

Anyway, passing BM in SPM isn't that hard actually, I never get A during my normal exams in school but ended up getting an A in SPM, lol.

And most importantly,

How can you fail your BM? It's our Bahasa KEBANGSAAN~!

This post has been edited by Dr@gon: Nov 4 2008, 01:14 PM

[quote=Dr@gon,Nov 3 2008, 11:53 PM]
You see, the basic procedure to get a degree is like this:

SPM/O-Level -> Pre-u -> Degree

Common pre-U in Malaysia: Matriks / STPM / Foundation

Matriks (Matrikulasi):
- takes about 1 year.
- the certificate is only recognized by Local Uni (a.k.a. IPTA).
- if you are not a bumiputera, u need two things to get in matriks, luck and an excellent result. (90% of Matriks students are Malays.)
- relatively easy and semester base.
- easier to enroll into IPTA compared to any other path.
STPM:
- takes about 2 years.
- the certificate is more widely recognized compared to matriks, it is recognized by both IPTA and IPTS.
- relatively hard, very wide scope and everything is determined by one examination.
- way harder to enroll into IPTA compared to Matriks students.
Foundation:
- takes about 1 year.
- a course in a university before you start your degree course.
- for the foundation of IPTA (a.ka.a asasi), similiar to matriks, if you are not a bumiputera...
- for the foundation of IPTS, this could be the most expensive path.

Beside these, you can also choose to take A-Level, which is simliar and equivalent to STPM. (Or you can say STPM is Malaysia version of A-Level.)

There is no way that you can take science subjects without taking mathematics in STPM.
Anyway, science and mathematics are somehow related in many ways, engineering, science and IT all require mathematics.

If you choose college, means:
SPM -> Diplomma -> Degree
You can stop at Diplomma if you want but please be reminded that degree>diplomma (rank).




u c...
i love bio...
and hopefully i can get a job in de fututre tat is bio related....
i dun wan to spend half of my life and my energy to do the things tat i dun like....
and somehow bio related studies r not provided in IPTA...
except for bumiputras....
which i juz checked frm my skool's counsellor....
so i'm planning to either F6 or college...
cuz matrix too late to register liao...
anyway,
i heard my senior said tat F6 iz tough...
i mean TOUGH...
if u r smart u can still enjoy...
but if u r not tat bright,u may end up holding a book all the time....
i currently hav no financial problem....
any suggetion?
should i juz go to F6

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Added on November 4, 2008, 8:21 pmor straight to college??

This post has been edited by sayang: Nov 4 2008, 08:21 PM

I was from Form 6, ya, it is very true that only the hardworking one will do well in STPM, the coverage of the subjects are just too wide. (And I ended up with bad result. )

My suggestion is, if you have no financial problem and already very clear about what you want, just enroll in a IPTS taking foundation already. Of course, if you want to stop at diplomma only, you can go college.

Just my suggestion, it's up to you afterall.

Hi ragdolls,

Dont worry, mom & dad & sis & your brother (zoomckng) all have faith in u. just try ur best in this yr spm. come wat results, its not the end of the world.

trust me, ur studies actually just starting after secondary school. nowadays alot of choices, options for u guys to choose from.

so hit the books now, and dont spend too much time on lowyat.net.

all the best guys

I'm taking my SPM next week . After this, which path should I take? STPM/Matric/A-level? Local/Oversea?
After some research, I have interest actuarial science.

I have a fren who have 2 credits in SPM but most of the college requires minimum of 3 credits for enrollment. Are there any college that accept below 3 credits ?

2 Credits meaning 2 Cs and above (ie 6C grade and above), whatever happened to his other subject's results? Surely there's more A's...

And I doubt they'll accept...

hello. i am 2006 spm graduate. last year i enrolled in foundation in management programme at MMU. but now after poor academic results and my hatred for that course, i've decided to call it quits. I was in the wrong field. Now I am so thrilled to furthering my studies in automotive industry. i would like suggestions and info on which good universities/colleges that are well known for their automotive programme. my current choice is MFI. will be taking Dip in auto maintenance there. and if can i want that instituion to settle loans and fees 100% since I'm pretty much broke after wasting it all on MMU. thanks

same as sayang...
i luv bio too...n planning to pursue coarse related to bio...
related to plants the best..
bt tat is wide oso..
bcoz so far i found out..some r abt pollution..R&D n so on..
n it made me confused..

so far i found..only IPTA offering coarse abt plants n environment coarse in msia..
n the opportunity for non bumi is low low low....


anyone else can gif me suggestion n ideas on wat coarse tat is related to bio? (except abt medicine)
n most important..wat is the first step for it? (A-level?foundation?)
n which college or uni offer coarse on it...

THx a lot ~!!

if u like bio u can try biomed.. interesting course.. or u can go for environmental science or agricultural science. if u wanna do foundation, find the uni u wanna go to n see if they accept it or not. i think most uni accept a levels. but im not sure which coll/uni offer those courses sry >.<