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post Dec 11 2008, 05:49 PM

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Hey everybody, I'm new here

I would like to inquire what do they mean by 'coursework' in the SAM programme. The coursework is stretched throughout the whole year or there are specific dates that one has to hand in their assignments and then given another new one.
Can someone please help to elaborate it and if you have other information about how the SAM programme goes about, do let me know.

It would be advisable to opt for SAM or Cambridge A-Levels?
Besides the difference on the exam style (the former which has coursework while the latter doesn't as it is fully exam based) what other benefits and differences does both the courses have?
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post Dec 11 2008, 10:17 PM

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I don’t know what course I want to take
First, ask yourself what do you like the most. Perhaps you like nice looking flash, website and programs or perhaps you are fascinated by the latest technologies in automotive and cars. This is the first and foremost thing you must first consider. One of the most common mistake people make is to look at the $$ factor and their own results. It is not to say results are not important, it is important but not to an extent it’ll influence too much of your decision. However, please do note that you shouldn’t stray too far away from reality. For example, you found that your interest is in music yet, you can’t even identify what a flat/sharp is in theory. If this is the case, you should then re-evaluate your second interest as trying to study something you have no knowledge in, will get you no where near far.

I don’t know what to do and how to start
Well, to start, the first thing you should do is to understand what you like as stated on the first post. After that, try looking at your results and will your results be able to help you to gain entry into the specific institute. For some if their results are slightly off the standard or aren’t looking that well, there’s always foundation courses available.

I have chosen my course and what should I do now?
After you have chosen courses that you find interesting, the next thing is to short list all the institutes that are offering them. In this time, let’s just leave every other factor out and short list all your choices. Then from your choices, evaluate the details of each institutes for example, are they offering accredited course by LAN? Are they having positive feedbacks or are they just a phony institutes? How well do they rank among the other institutes which are offering the same course? Try sorting out all this and cut out those that don’t fulfill those criteria. In my humble opinion, the most important thing is to look at the accreditation of the institute and the course itself.

I have short listed all the institutes, then?
Well, after you have narrowed down your choice, you should then consider one of the most important factor, the $$ factor. This is one of the cruel realities you must face. First thing is to look at your budget including tuition fees, living expenses and miscellaneous expenses and compare them with the information given by the institute, if they go out of your budget, the institute shouldn’t stay on your list as regardless of how good the institute is, if you can’t support all the fees, then it’s not really a wise choice. After all this shortlist, you will most probably be left with a few (like 5) choices.

A short note to above, even if they are over your budget, you can always check if any of the scholarships are available for such institutes, if yes, then you can try to apply for the scholarship. Well, everyone loves a prestigious institute compared to a “cap ayam” institute.

So I can apply now?
Wait just yet, after you have short listed all these, one of the important things is to check this out institutes by visiting them and talking to their course advisor. Never trust too much of the information you found on websites as most likely, they are showing all the nice wonderful information and most probably, you wouldn’t see something that is negative. After visiting all the institutes, do check for some online feedbacks from current seniors or you can ask your friends in the institutes about the status or their view on the institute.

Generally these are some simple guides to how you can choose an institute. However, do not make these mistakes when you are choosing some of the institute.

1) Do not follow the crowd or your friends in choosing a course or institute, don’t worry about friends as you’ll make new ones once you are there. Following the crowd is a fool’s theory and it shouldn’t be followed.

2) Undeniably, $$ factor is an important factor and it’s one of the rules guiding your choice. However, please do not choose an institute because it is cheap, do check the credibility and accreditation of the institute. No point getting a cheaper education where no one will hire you as they don’t recognize the institute.

3) Don’t give up just because you messed up your SPM results. Remember that results are not everything, it’s just a measurement tools to see how well you fair in school, stick it to your mind that A doesn’t mean everything and results only meant something, not everything. There’s always a second chance for you to improve yourself like foundation courses or form 6.

Additional Information
1) Culture Shock - Tony C
2) What to do after Form 5? Form 6, Private college or Uni? - LaR_c
3) Extra information on Form 6 - soccergod
4) Additional information on foundation courses - cynthia_tss
5) Choices after SPM - azarimy
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A simple list I wrote based on the frequently asked questions in the education section... Hopefully this may clear some of your doubts...

If you think something is missing, please add them in your post .... thank you ...

Everyone is welcomed to ask questions and get their doubts answer here instead of creating new threads with little replies smile.gif
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shuang
post Dec 27 2008, 04:34 PM

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during my visit to monash uni open day.. 1 of the student told me abt the SAM coarse work..
n i was so astounded.. it's REVIEWs !!
REVIEWs ON BOOKS..
i donno how true he was..as i dint further my question..

i had ad mind set for Cambridge a level..
actually there r 2 kinds of a level..
1 is modular n 1 is linear..
cambridge a level is the linear 1..which means it has 2 exams (AS n A2)
(or others ll say tat u need to memorize n understand everything u study n never forget single of it until u finish ur pre-u)
another 1 is london a level..which is the modular 1..
every module consists of 2 semester..with 1 exam at the end of the module..
so for some ppl it's less stressful as it's unlike cambridge which has 2 great major exam only..
(some ppl said tat for london a level..it's unnecessary to remember stuff u study on the past module)
(which for me..it's quite untrue..as everything u study is linked..u cannot forget n run away from it)

to make ur future brighter n make ur mind clearer..i suggest tat u can approach to any of the uni or college n talk to their counselor..
(rather than u juz sit in front of the com n waiting for the better)
so far as i noe..TAYLOR's do open it's college everyday..
haha..y don hav a look? cool2.gif
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post Jan 4 2009, 07:18 PM

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omg i forgot to apply for ipta last year..finished spm last year.. sad.gif

now wat can i do, have to wait another year? sad.gif
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post Jan 9 2009, 02:13 PM

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Hey guys, i have some questions on several courses.

- Is it a 'must' to have accountancy class in secondary school to pursue the course in University?
- What might be the suitable course that might involve in investment stuffs?

Hope you guys can shed some light... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 10 2009, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Jan 4 2009, 07:18 PM)
omg i forgot to apply for ipta last year..finished spm last year.. sad.gif

now wat can i do, have to wait another year? sad.gif
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how come u forgot? doh.gif
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post Jan 11 2009, 11:59 PM

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Thanks for your hardwork..this post is gonna be really helpful for those newbies out there..like me..haha
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post Jan 14 2009, 07:41 PM

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post Jan 19 2009, 06:03 PM

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Wow, after looking thorough this thread, I had a better understand about some routes for those fresh SPM graduates. I do not know whether I post in wrong place. If I do, I would like to say sorry:sweat:

I am a Form five science stream student. I have no opportunity to opt art stream although I hate science and Math since those who score straight A's in PMR is compulsory to take pure science in our school sad.gif . The subjects that I currently study is BM, English, BC, Math, MT, Sejarah, PM, Bio, Chem, Physics and EST. Nevertheless, I intend to study Form Six art stream and take music course after STPM since I had Dip. ATCL certificate for my piano and love music.

What I would like to know are :

- Is it a wrong or right choice for intending study Form six after SPM? My friends said that it is a very silly decision.They advised me to take music course after SPM.However, I need to take Dip.LTCL exam in 2011 or 2012 year.

- Is it a wrong choice if I would like to drop MT and some science subjects ( Physics and Chemistry) for SPM? I had a bad results for science and MT subjects ( Chemistry failed ) but quite good results for Math, History and other language subjects in last year final exam. I scared bad MT and science results will make me cannot take form six course after SPM.

Please give me some advises:help: Thank you smile.gif
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post Jan 20 2009, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(christellia @ Jan 19 2009, 06:03 PM)
Wow, after looking thorough this thread, I had a better understand about some routes for those fresh SPM graduates. I do not know whether I post in wrong place. If I do, I would like to say sorry:sweat:

I am a Form five science stream student. I have no opportunity to opt art stream although I hate science and Math since those who score straight A's in PMR is compulsory to take pure science in our school sad.gif  . The subjects that I currently study is BM, English, BC, Math, MT, Sejarah, PM, Bio, Chem, Physics and EST. Nevertheless, I intend to study Form Six art stream and take music course after STPM since I had Dip. ATCL certificate for my piano and love music.

What I would like to know are :

- Is it a wrong or right choice for intending study Form six after SPM? My friends said that it is a very silly decision.They advised me to take music course after SPM.However, I need to take Dip.LTCL exam in 2011 or 2012 year.

- Is it a wrong choice if I would like to drop MT and some science subjects ( Physics and Chemistry) for SPM? I had a bad results for science and MT subjects ( Chemistry failed ) but quite good results for Math, History  and other language subjects in last year final exam. I scared bad MT and science results will make me cannot take form six course after SPM.

Please give me some advises:help:  Thank you smile.gif
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these r my thoughts on ur questions :

1. well if u hate school by all means don't go for f6. it's not silly since u only get to go there once for f6. well da basic advantage of going to stpm is dat u can go straight for degree programs. i dont know much about music courses but if u feel it's better to take ur time n learn da basics then go for da diploma.

2. well i cant recall anything called mt but aa i can safely say that if ur r going for da art stream ur science subject results would not matter.

hope it helps

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QUOTE(rfx_87 @ Jan 20 2009, 09:25 PM)
these r my thoughts on ur questions :

1. well if u hate school by all means don't go for f6. it's not silly since u only get to go there once for f6. well da basic advantage of going to stpm is dat u can go straight for degree programs. i dont know much about music courses but if u feel it's better to take ur time n learn da basics then go for da diploma. 

2. well i cant recall anything called mt but aa i can safely say that if ur r going for da art stream ur science subject results would not matter.

hope it helps
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Thank you. It is really help me rclxms.gif

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post Jan 23 2009, 10:05 PM

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hello guys,erm i wanna ask a few things...

i love bussiness yet i know nothing.i took art stream ; ekonomi asas,add math,acc,science,++ syariah islam & quran sunnah.total 11 subject.i'm sucks in add math,but i love acc and economy,n science too.already finished form5 last year n now waiting 4 d results.
my parents urge me to take the foundation+degree so dat i can finish earlier than taking diploma+degree.

and i heard about the acc courses at uitm,fast track i think dat took shorter time to finish d study.sounds interesting 4 me,but i afraid if i cannot cope with it.i love playing around n study during d last minute..so far it works,got 7a for d trial.

well here's come d questions

1.is it ok to take diploma first then go to degree?

2.what courses should i take?anything about bussiness n management.as long as d job market is good in d future++ got $$ .

3.erm i also love acc n it looks easy 4 me.so which one is better?acc or bussiness or management?

4.this fast track thing.shorter time + same syllabus to finish = need to keep on track.with my habit in studying during d last minute,is it ok??

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QUOTE(silverchain @ Jan 4 2009, 07:18 PM)
omg i forgot to apply for ipta last year..finished spm last year.. sad.gif

now wat can i do, have to wait another year? sad.gif
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just wait fasa 2 application smile.gif
dun 4 get this 10 February 2009 the application fasa 2 for IPTA will open it smile.gif
maybe u can try isi the application hmm.gif whistling.gif

p/s : u must have unik ID for enter the application wink.gif

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Perhaps u could opt for STPM or Matriculation , then u still have the chance to enter IPTA. Good LUCK!

Btw, how was the chances of entering IPTA via asasi compared to matri and stpm?


Added on January 31, 2009, 9:16 am
QUOTE(apsidewatch @ Jan 23 2009, 10:05 PM)
hello guys,erm i wanna ask a few things...

    i love bussiness yet i know nothing.i took art stream ; ekonomi asas,add math,acc,science,++ syariah islam & quran sunnah.total 11 subject.i'm sucks in add math,but i love acc and economy,n science too.already finished form5 last year n now waiting 4 d results.
my parents urge me to take the foundation+degree so dat i can finish earlier than taking diploma+degree.

  and i heard about the acc courses at uitm,fast track i think dat took shorter time to finish d study.sounds interesting 4 me,but i afraid if i cannot cope with it.i love playing around n study during d last minute..so far it works,got 7a for d trial.

well here's come d questions

1.is it ok to take diploma first then go to degree?

2.what courses should i take?anything about bussiness n management.as long as d job market is good in d future++ got $$ .

3.erm i also love acc n it looks easy 4 me.so which one is better?acc or bussiness or management?

4.this fast track thing.shorter time + same syllabus to finish = need to keep on track.with my habit in studying during d last minute,is it ok??

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1)It is fine for u to take diploma as long as u know what u want to be in future.

2) i learnt that BA is quite general and u could hardly find any jobs in future, perhaps specialised in fields like acountancy or economics would help a lots.

3) I have answered u biggrin.gif

4)U could probably opt for ADTP, SAM or ICPU if and only if u could afford.Believe me, this all Pre U is the fastest , relaxing yet very fun and entertaning way of progresing to degree level.

Anyway, ur future endeavour is upon ur will, hopes u could come out with a wise choice n make it till the end. icon_rolleyes.gif


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I got a question here.

The duration for SAM is probably around 8-12 months. That depends on which intake you take.

If I join the SAM intake on March, it will just be 8 months study. An intensive one. Will it be tough? I heard my seniors saying that cramming all the subjects in 8 months is hell of a roller coaster ride. They actually had a hard time too even though they joined the Jan intake. Covering all the assignments, projects, and examinations in just 8 months. I wonder how to. I do not feel like taking STPM or A levels cause the duration of the time is too long. A levels is expensive as well and I'm planning to further my studies in Aus in the future.

Will I just managed to pass or will I pass it with flying colours if I take SAM? I'm not a genius, just an average student who had just finished his SPM.

Any opinions? Am I having the wrong perception on this matter? Can anyone tell me more?

Your help would be deeply appreciated.

Thanks.


Added on February 5, 2009, 2:24 amBesides, if I do take SAM. Means I can only further my studies in universities in Southern Australia? And whats the difference between SAM and AusMat?

I'm confused.

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post Feb 5 2009, 12:57 PM

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My SPM results are coming out next month , and i haven't decide what course to take . I just cant think . I like to draw and im thinking of taking art course , But the courses are so wide . Im nt very creative and i hate science

Pls give me some advice or suggestions. THX!!
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@Bub-bly no you dont have to take accounting subjects in secondary school[its not compulsory, as i have friends who did not take acc yet are in the same course as me =)], you could try doing a finance course, as for pre-u's you could try doin business pre-u's. eg, in taylors college they have this thing called business pre u; a short course on business studies.
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QUOTE(tibilui @ Feb 5 2009, 12:57 PM)
My SPM results are coming out next month , and i haven't decide what course to take . I just cant think . I like to draw and im thinking of taking art course , But the courses are so wide . Im nt very creative and i hate science

Pls give me some advice or suggestions. THX!!
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Architecture? You can draw buildings.

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QUOTE(tibilui @ Feb 5 2009, 12:57 PM)
My SPM results are coming out next month , and i haven't decide what course to take . I just cant think . I like to draw and im thinking of taking art course , But the courses are so wide . Im nt very creative and i hate science

Pls give me some advice or suggestions. THX!!
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Good in Maths? You can consider Architecture if you could master a little bit of Maths.
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QUOTE(VHunter @ Feb 5 2009, 05:38 PM)
Good in Maths? You can consider Architecture if you could master a little bit of Maths.
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