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azarimy
post Dec 25 2006, 07:00 PM

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if u wanna be a CSI, it's not about what u take, but more about where u work. as far as my friend told me, there arent that many qualified CSIs running around in msia, and she'll be the only female criminologist with a phd after she finishes.

u see, forensics is a merging of several fields, so it's up to u to take which path, as long as it leads to forensics. she took the law-crimonology path, which might not land her a lab-job, but more of a behavioural studies and stuff (coz her field is pedophiles and sexual crimes). to be frank, CSI IS a lab-job, and u cant really escape that. what do u think those CSI people do at the crime scene? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 25 2006, 07:00 PM)
if u wanna be a CSI, it's not about what u take, but more about where u work. as far as my friend told me, there arent that many qualified CSIs running around in msia, and she'll be the only female criminologist with a phd after she finishes.

u see, forensics is a merging of several fields, so it's up to u to take which path, as long as it leads to forensics. she took the law-crimonology path, which might not land her a lab-job, but more of a behavioural studies and stuff (coz her field is pedophiles and sexual crimes). to be frank, CSI IS a lab-job, and u cant really escape that. what do u think those CSI people do at the crime scene? biggrin.gif
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will she have a bright chance to be employed at overseas?
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post Dec 27 2006, 07:15 PM

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my firend worked in thailand and indonesia, and currently is attached in japan working on a project that is also part of her phd. she could've worked in australia or other more 'popular' countries, but that's just it - she's not into popularity. from what i gather, in the realm of forensics, u dont really have much of a problem working anywhere. just make sure u're good enough.


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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 27 2006, 07:15 PM)
my firend worked in thailand and indonesia, and currently is attached in japan working on a project that is also part of her phd. she could've worked in australia or other more 'popular' countries, but that's just it - she's not into popularity. from what i gather, in the realm of forensics, u dont really have much of a problem working anywhere. just make sure u're good enough.
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hey, i'm an spm leaver and currently waiting for my results.. i plan to take up a degree in mechanical engineering, where i plan to major in the automotive field. can any of you guys advise me on what my next step should be in order to pursue the mentioned course, either locally or abroad? thank you
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for my i opinion, it's up to you whether u want abroad or local.. basically, local also not bad in mechanical engineering plus much more cheaper than abroad.. but, if u have extra money for going abroad so go for it.. or mayb u can get any scholarship if u successful in ur spm later on.. btw, gud luck for ur result!
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hi guys
For english, I can write but I cant really speak
What are the ways that can improve my speaking?
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post Jan 22 2007, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(K-I-R-A @ Jan 21 2007, 07:20 PM)
hi guys
For english, I can write but I cant really speak
What are the ways that can improve my speaking?
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There's a thread on this topic. Here -> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/396659

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post Jan 22 2007, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 14 2006, 08:40 PM)
i'll try to put the career choice in simpler diagram, post SPM. i'll create a better diagram later.

options:

i. SPM > STPM/A-LEVELS/SAM/MUFY/MATRICS/FOUNDATION (basically all pre-university qualifications) > DEGREE

ii. SPM > DIPLOMA > DEGREE

iii. SPM > SIJIL POLITEKNIK/VOKASIONAL > DEGREE

iv. SPM > SIJIL > DIPLOMA > DEGREE
these are some of the most common routes that students take post-SPM. do note that for choices iii and iv, we're talking about quite a stretch of time, might span between 5-8 years post SPM.
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Not too sure whether one can get a degree upon completion of vocational cert. Vocational studies run parrallel with academic route, and they don't intersect. The level of qualification...say at MLVK Level 4 may be equivalent to a diploma but they are not the same.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 17 2006, 03:06 AM)
The last two years of the diploma is the first two years of the degree itself. You can't escape from hard work.
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That is true in the case of a foreign qualification taught and offered in most jurisdictions outside Malaysia. For example, universites int he UK accept the HND diploma, which is a 2 year programme, for articulation into the final year of the engineering degree.

Howeer, it is not the case in malaysia. The current LAN system wants to streamline entry into diploma with that of degrees and study period. LAN is concerned that students may short-circuit the system by getting a diploma (a 2-year 3 month programme under a 2 1/2 semester system) after SPM, and proceed to the final year of a degree/ or top-up degree. If this is allowed , students may graduate in a short period of just about 3 1/2 years after SPM. Entry qualifications into a diploma is also lower - only 3 SPM credits. Therefore, LAN stipulates that a Diploma can only articulate into the 2nd year of a degree. It means Diploma only allows for exemptions for first year of the degree.

This would effectively streamline the routes to obtaining a degree.
- Diploma route after SPM: 2 years 3 months at diploma and further 2 1/2 years for the final 2 years (in the case of a 3 year degree): 4 years plus
- Degree route after SPM: 1-2 year(s) foundation/ A-Level/ STPM and a further 3 1/2 years at degree level.: 4 years plus.

Sounds fair....... but it's not in line with the practice in most countries like Australia and the UK. It is also difficult to reconcile this with adult entry requirements, and top-up degrees (which are not recognised by LAN).

The proposed Malaysian qualifiactions framework (MQF) seeks to address this but is yet to be approved and effected.

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QUOTE(DragLung @ Dec 13 2006, 04:06 PM)
Entry qualification for Diploma is lower than of A Levels. For students who don't meet the requirements for A Levels, they can take Diploma, then proceed to Degree instead of A Levels -> Degree.
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A-Levels is a pre-university qualification, and naturally, the academic requirements are higher. The bar set by LAN is 5 credits at SPM (although different universities may require better results).

The wisdom is that those who do not have 5 credits are not cut-out for degree level studies, and should really think of aiming for a diploma. The LAN standard for diploma is just 3 credits.

Diploma students are expected to hit the job market upon completion of the diploma. Period. However, universities and private colleges have begun to recognise the need for continuining education, especially for adult learners who have graduated with diploma and have substantial work experience to upgrade themselves. Before long, some have begun to accept fresh diploma holders.

Foreign universities even designed top-up degrees for these diploma holders. However, these degrees are not recognised by LAN (since the Malaysian system is behind in sophistication, and for political reasons, Tan Sri Musa...the Education Minister when LAN adopted its closed door policies, was from a local public university and does not accept the liberal practices of foreign universities), and had to be offered as distance learning programmes.

Am waiting for the MQA/ MQF to sort this out once and for all.

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Anybody care to explain to me about UPU? How does it work? Is it the same thing as diploma?
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post Jan 24 2007, 06:58 PM

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UPU is an application form u fill
to get in local uni IPTA
in Pre-U/diploma courses


u must buy the pin nu
i buy it through my skool
i think the date line to buy the upu pin nu is already pass

after u get ur pin nu...(for spm and stpm student)
u must fill ur form on9 in 10 day after ur result are out
not sooner not later than that
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post Mar 7 2007, 02:19 PM

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can anyone brief more about UPU thingy??
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QUOTE(Jesse_17 @ Mar 7 2007, 02:19 PM)
can anyone brief more about UPU thingy??
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i believe if ur a ex form5 they ady offered this somewhere durin end of the year. i didn reg either and i kinda regret it cos my frens have dy applied and getting offers while i'm stuck at home cry.gif
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post Mar 8 2007, 11:02 PM

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I just finish my spm last year, planning to take diploma in electrical & electronic engineering but is it very difficult? someone recommend me to study software engineering because more easier???? So what is the different between electrical & electronic engineering and software engineering? Pls advice me! Thanks a lot!
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QUOTE(Faust89 @ Mar 8 2007, 11:50 PM)
i believe if ur a ex form5 they ady offered this somewhere durin end of the year. i didn reg either and i kinda regret it cos my frens have dy applied and getting offers while i'm stuck at home cry.gif
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u mean some college offered them???but if i m not wrong..we can just key in the pin num at the website not more that 10 days AFter SPM result out???isn`t it supposed to be like that???then how come they being offered???n i just bought the pin num yesterday..... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2007, 12:45 AM

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u're not "offered" upu. what u need to do is buy an application, where they will give u a pin number. then when they announce that application is open, u can use the pin number on the website and fill in the application forms online.
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the no. unik ID for UPU online can still be bought at BSN
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post Mar 14 2007, 12:05 AM

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erm....at the UPU form there,wat i supposed to put at the school type?? i study at Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Methodist ACS...so,,wat should i put??SEKOLAH MENENGAH HARIAN???SEKOLAH MENENGAH BESTARI??? pls help...

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