if u have the money. sure.

i'm not sure how it goes now, but some private colleges still require u to pay for atleast half of the fees even if u decide to quit after a week or two. do check first.

i am from a poor family but i am planning to study as far as i can...btw if it good if i go to apply for some college now? i am scare that i cannot get a place in matriks

there's 3 University and College in my consideration now......MMU, Taylors or Monash...

I prefer IT studies, Marketing sales, busineese marketing, or IT management...anything related to IT and Marketing.....which University or college is most suitable to me..?

if i go for Monash and take their busineese and economics studies...i should go for A-levels first?

according to this website....the information given is confusing to me....anybody can tell me what's the basic requirements..?

http://www.buseco.monash.edu.my/courses/un...quirements.html

Thanks.

I don't think having A-levels can land you a place in architecture in one of the IPTAs.

How confusing can it be. The page is a simple as it can be. You do not need people to explain it to you unless you suffer from some sort of impediment.

You don't need to take A-level since you are looking into this course. Take SAM instead.

Of course you can understand it well, do you think that everybody can understand what's SAM, UEC? What i need to have further explaination is how do i get a certificate for UEC higher Mathematics? It's studied in Monash or Sunway or else where?

If the page is as simple enough for everybody to understand it, what for their Open Day? Hopefully you can get what do i mean, as you're Elite here, you MUST be profesional in majority matters, able to give a hand to SPM Graduates, what do they ask, you have your responsibility to answer it depends on the fact and society's norm. Peace.

Edit: Except from SAM, i can apply to MUFY 1st right..?

Thanks.

This post has been edited by Criptonox89: Dec 13 2006, 01:52 PM

Those are PreU requirements.
You can enroll as long as you possess one of those listed qualification

If people cannot understand such things, it is very clear that one should not be looking into further education.

There are countless avenues which one can never say 'I have not heard or seen it before'. Take the Star for example, there is a whole pullout dedicated to education every Sunday, a larger pullout every month on opportunities in education, if one takes minimal effort to look through the papers and the net, one would easily gather tones of info.

Open days are for one to get more info, get to know the stuff in greater detail. Its main purpose is not to tell you what A-level stands for or how to understand minimum requirements for academic programs.

Look through my entries, I write only when proper questions are asked, not like....'I don't understand what it means.....can anybody tell me what are the basic requirements?'

Given the price tag of MUFY and SAM, SAM would be more cost effective.

Alright, Thanks for your clarification.

As you said, 'If people cannot understand such things, it is very clear that one should not be looking into further education.'. I NEVER said i cannot understand but CONFUSING. Many entry requirements given there depends on diffrent countries respectively. Maybe i didn't stated to be exact or clearly on what do i need to know in my question, hence you had misunderstanding me. Sorry for that.

Frankly say, i can't understand what's MUFY, SAM, UEC....IF i never do any research before this. IF i knew it well, i won't be here to ask such question.

Calm down. All of us here were in your situation before. During my time, I have only less than 3 weeks to find out all about pre-U and I did all researches by myself.

Like you've mentioned, MUFY, SAM, UEC, A-Levels, etc....they're all pre-U courses. You need to take one of these in order to qualify to enrol for your further studies in university. Which one should you take? That all depends on you yourself, how much are you willing to spend on the tuition fees, do you mind spending more time on your pre-U (SAM takes about a year, A Levels takes about 18 months, etc),....

The important thing now is get your pre-U qualification first.

How bout diploma??

people say diploma is lower rank compare to A-lvl/Sam or watever. Is it true??

Entry qualification for Diploma is lower than of A Levels. For students who don't meet the requirements for A Levels, they can take Diploma, then proceed to Degree instead of A Levels -> Degree.

diploma is definitely NOT lower than STPM or A-levels. the intake requirement is the same (SPM/0-levels), but spans typically 3 years.

diploma is another way to skip STPM/A-levels while focusing directly to the course of ur preference. however, u cant use ur diploma to apply for a different course. for example, if u take diploma in computer engineering, u cant use it to apply for degree in accountancy. in such case, YES, diploma IS LOWER than STPM/A-levels.

1) so apart from the "supposed" difference in level of difficulty, the STPM and A-levels are pretty much the same?

2) With the A-levels, I can still change my mind if I were to suddenly decide to go from economics to engineering or vice versa? Is that true?

3) Can anyone tell me the significance of the TRIAL SPM results? I mean, I can only use that to apply for A-levels, am I right in this case or what else can I do with it?

4) What certificates do I use to apply for scholarships? I mean as far as I know, SPM trials/real cert is used to apply for college scholarship but for gorvenment scholarship, do I still use SPM or can I use the A levels result cert or do I choose which 1 looks nicer?

So diploma is much more easier compare to A-lvl/STPM/SAM ??

after spm...does it looks like that >>>

SPM > DIPLOMA > DEGREE ????

btw...i am made up my mind by taking EnE ...
but the main problem is that, which college is suitable for me ?
some of my friends told me that i have to aware of those recognized or non-recognized college ....
but it seems that i cant find it through internet after few hours of searching ...
might as well ask here for some better info and better guidances ...

As what i know....if you had plan to take Degree.....just study one year of foundation and 4 years of EnE studies

For foundation studies, it took up one years, which you get nothing with it.....no certificates given...you can't get a job with only foundation studies while foundation is a pre-u course in order to continue a degree....

Many University offer Engineering studies....MMU, Monash, Rahman, and many more....you gotta take a ride on those exhibition on Further Studies.....chat with their staff and ask opinions from them.....they're very helpful indeed....

Edit: Do correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks.

This post has been edited by Criptonox89: Dec 13 2006, 09:06 PM

i think i will make decision after my result come out..thanks for all your info...got one senior tell me better go earn some $$ to support my fee next time

This post has been edited by lolz_5167: Dec 14 2006, 03:09 PM

That is correct. You can opt for the uni's foundation courses, or study A levels. After that you may proceed directly to doing your degree. With A levels, you can apply to various Uni/colleges, but foundation by the university is usually only accepted in that university.

Identify Uni/colleges that offers EnE courses, and their cost. Then find out about their reputation, and visit open days and education fair to finally determine which Uni you'd like to join to further your studies.

P.S: When I say uni, I mean both Uni and Colleges. Lazy to type out both.

So diploma is much more easier compare to A-lvl/STPM/SAM ??

You can't compare both qualifications just like that.
Its not in the same league.