i'll try to put the career choice in simpler diagram, post SPM. i'll create a better diagram later.

options:

i. SPM > STPM/A-LEVELS/SAM/MUFY/MATRICS/FOUNDATION (basically all pre-university qualifications) > DEGREE

ii. SPM > DIPLOMA > DEGREE

iii. SPM > SIJIL POLITEKNIK/VOKASIONAL > DEGREE

iv. SPM > SIJIL > DIPLOMA > DEGREE


these are some of the most common routes that students take post-SPM. do note that for choices iii and iv, we're talking about quite a stretch of time, might span between 5-8 years post SPM.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Dec 14 2006, 08:40 PM

I had just went to Sunway Ipoh today, might as well as to ask them about MUFY, unfortunately MUFY is only conducted in Sunway KL.

They offer me their Sunway, Busineese Programme. I was offered with their Diploma which took 3 YEARS to complete include consideration of sem break, exam week and so. With another external exam which is ABE(Association of Busineese Executives) which is a UK exam, kindly accepted by most of the university around the world.

After the Diploma programme, we can get a Degree based on how much credit can be transfered and the duration, shortest would be 1 year. To me, it's a more secured way to get a Degree and hence you don't need to study like mad when comes to degree studies.

So for those who're intrested, they're having their Open Day during this weekend in Sunway and Monash. I'll be going to Monahs to have a look on their courses since my mind is always heading to Monash.

after running an exhaustive check, i came to this conclusion:

(IPTAs offering architecture: UTM, UM, UiTM, USM, UPM, UIAM and UKM)

UIAM and UM are the only two IPTAs openly taking A-levels for their architectural degree. UTM, USM and UKM takes A-level students on case-by-case basis. UPM only accepts A-level for foreign students. I couldnt get any info on UiTM's A-level intake whatsoever. sorry it took me awhile to get this information.

*i called in for UTM, UIAM and UPM. UM, USM and UKM are based on their websites. couldnt dig any from UiTM.

The last two years of the diploma is the first two years of the degree itself. You can't escape from hard work.

i wan to take pharmacy course in de future..but now i nid to take up alevel 1st ..but i m not sure wat r de subs tat i nid to take ...as i noe i nid to take chemistry ,maths ,physics or bio...de ppl in inti told me is doesnt matter to choose either bio or physic but de ppl in sunway told me tat is better to choose bio...i m very miserable now cuz my bio didn get credit in my trial exam n i wan to enroll in jan intake...wat should i do ???

u know to be frank, it doesnt really matter. u need to take A-levels first. period. trial exams or whatever wont mean anything once u're on A-levels. all u need to do to is to make sure u'll get ur place on ur degree. and A-level is the key, not SPM.

so regardless of what u get in ur SPM, as long as it allows u to take A-levels, then it wont matter. if u flunked ur bio in ur SPM, make sure u do well in A-levels.

You can look through the prospectus of universities. Only Chemistry is compulsory for pharmacy.

Choose the remaning subjects base on what you prefer. Physics and biology are of equal footing in terms of grading.

This post has been edited by feynman: Dec 18 2006, 01:59 AM

IAM-administrative management(professional course)
i was wondering olympia col & mc orange insiture,
which was better on this course?

Hi all. I'm going to be in Form 5 after this holiday.. My ambition is to be a pilot.. so, after SPM.. where should I go?? I have totally no idea @_@

I asked my uncle (my fren's actually) about road to take to be a pilot. He suggested my to take STPM instead of expensive A lvls.. or degree or whatever izit.. After doing STPM, go for PPL. After that try luck at TUDM (get trained under TUDM better I guess) or try to apply for MAS / Airasia / SIA.. TRY LUCK to get sponsorship from airlines company to take CPL.. then only slowly become pilot..

um.. hopefully I'm not posting in the wrong section..
and hopefully someone could help me out.. (any pilots around??)

izit difficult to apply loan frm ptptn ??
as a science stream student ,maximum how much can i get a year ?
did ptptn allow students to study in private U or overseas??
i can only apply for ptptn after i get de spm result , izit ??
is tat any scholarship tat i can apply by using my trial result ??

azarimy , do u think i should take bio as one of my subs in alevel although i m not sure whether i can do dis subject well or not ??
i m not sure whether physics will help in my further studies which is pharmacy ... although dis 2 sub can b accepted but sum of de U demand bio as de requirement in pharmacy ...

1. Not difficult as its a loan not a scholarship.
2. Depends on which institution and course offered
3. Only after you secure a place in a institution
4. Again, depends on who is giving you the scholarship.

u shouldnt see the subjects as a pre-requisite in terms of intake, but rather as a preparation of urself in taking the journey in pharmacy. i think by basing on logic alone we can assume that u will need biology at one point in ur studies. but we're not talking about what u learn in bio exactly will be transplanted into ur degree, no sir.

we're talking about the basics and principles of biology that u will need to have BEFORE embarking on a more serious pharmacy related biology. fair enough, the degree itself will try to teach u its own specific set of biology, but that assumes that u already have the basics.

remember, not all pharmaceutical schools teach the SAME thing. same goes for any other courses. but the basics are the same.



bottom line is, u will need to study bio and be good at it at one point. if u take biology now, it MAY help u in the future. if u dont, well, u're gonna have to spend more time on the related subject while doing ur degree bcoz u dont have the basics.

de syllabus of a level is actually de same in each U izit ??

a-levels is a certificate of education by itself. (go check wikipedia for more detailed info). its an international exam similar to STPM, widely used in the world especially in commonwealth countries. it is not conducted by a university or college of any sort. so regardless where u take the a-levels, it's technically the same syllabus world-wide.

it's like asking: is taking SPM in johor the same with kedah or sarawak? yes it is.

This post has been edited by azarimy: Dec 19 2006, 12:37 AM

Darkages have answered some questions.

PTPTN loans are only for studies within Malaysia.

What are the universities that demand biology?

I have not come across any foreign university that demands biology. If you're talking about IPTAs, then it is likely they would demand since Malaysian public universities have a screwed up admissions system.

if shimy's talking about A-levels, i doubt it's for msian IPTAs, other than UIAM. what about private colleges in msia?

hi,newbies here~~erm,im waiting for my SPM result and apply matriks from my school's administrator.Well,although im a non-bumiputra,i have certain confident tat i could obtain my matriks since i live in rural area.
My ambition is to become a forensic,therefore,muz take medicine course first.
now, the pro is....

1.if i really kena matriks,everyone sure will persude me to go on tat route,
HOWEVER, matriks is not recognise by overseas U,that means i will never study abroad but only sucks local U if i choose this route...

2.Well for STPM,it is really tough one,but if i could score a good result in STPM,
it would be easier for me to secure a scholarship.

guys,if u were me,will u go on the Matriks route and obtain a degree in local U if u were choosen ??

correct me if im wrong...

matriks is almost a sure fire way to land a place in the university. once u're in matriks, u're not bound by racial factors when continuing into the universities as u have been screened once. so once u score ur matriks results, it's a fair walk in the park for u.

talking about forensics, what specialization r u interested in? u have forensic medicine, forensic science and what not. i have a friend who currently studying phd in forensics, did her masters in criminal law and a degree in law. i take it u dont really have to take medicine first, unless u wanna do forensic medicine.

taking her route, which she recommends especially if u wanna save budget, is to do ur degree in msia, and later masters (u can opt for multiple majors) overseas. as always in job qualifications, people will look for the latter. so ur masters will carry more weight regardless of where u studied for ur degree.


if u can land a place in matriks, USE IT!

OMG!!! Phd in forensic science?!!!! i thought this course is not available in local Uni ! OMG.BTW,first i thought of taking this course,but after i gathered the information,i found that it is not like what i watch in CSI,instead,it is a FULL TIME LABORATORY JOB.Could you please ask ur friend to confirm that information?Now your friend is in overseas?Will she have the chance of working in overseas??
Oh...please tell me all about it since im truely sesat !!

BTW,i do love forensic medicine,but tat means i must take medicine which i afraid i could not stand for it.Ai........i really love to become a forensic,it is my dream.