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post Dec 8 2006, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 8 2006, 09:09 AM)
I'm interested in taking up EE. Going for foundation would be the best option wouldn't it?
I'm thinking of taking it up in MMU. But then the min req would be 5Cs including English,Modern Maths,Physics and Addmaths. I'm worried about my Add Maths though. I have no confidence of getting a Pass in Additional Maths. But as for the other 3 subjects I have enough confidence to say that I can get above Credit for it.

What if I don't get a C or above for Add maths?(touch wood) What would my nxt option be to take up EE? I don't see any A-Levels offered in MMU. Any advices?
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If you are comfortable with MMU, then it is ok.

I think you should think carefully on what you want to do, mathematics is crucial in engineering, at least in the course, you may find it overwhelming in terms of the material and the workload.


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post Dec 8 2006, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 8 2006, 01:26 PM)
If you are comfortable with MMU, then it is ok.

I think you should think carefully on what you want to do, mathematics is crucial in engineering, at least in the course, you may find it overwhelming in terms of the material and the workload.
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Well yeah I'm aware that engineering involves a lot of mathematics. I really can say that I can get As for Modern Maths , English. Maybe a B hopefully an A though for Physics. Only thing that's a challenge for me is Additional Maths. It's not that I don't understand anything about it, it's just that I have no inspiration to study Additional Maths back in secondary school due to the teacher being lousy. I know, I know I'm regretting my actions back then.

Does MMU accept A-lv certs from other colleges? For example I take up A lvs in Inti or some other colleges then after my As I would go for EE in MMU. IF I don't get a C in Add maths of course.
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post Dec 9 2006, 09:58 AM

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Does MMU accept A-lv certs from other colleges? For example I take up A lvs in Inti or some other colleges then after my As I would go for EE in MMU. IF I don't get a C in Add maths of course.
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Is there a difference between STPM at St John's and STPM at VI?
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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 9 2006, 09:58 AM)
Is there a difference between STPM at St John's and STPM at VI?
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I'm not refering to STPM but A-levels which are offered in private colleges.
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 8 2006, 06:10 PM)
Well yeah I'm aware that engineering involves a lot of mathematics. I really can say that I can get As for Modern Maths , English. Maybe a B hopefully an A though for Physics. Only thing that's a challenge for me is Additional Maths. It's not that I don't understand anything about it, it's just that I have no inspiration to study Additional Maths back in secondary school due to the teacher being lousy. I know, I know I'm regretting my actions back then.

Does MMU accept A-lv certs from other colleges? For example I take up A lvs in Inti or some other colleges then after my As I would go for EE in MMU. IF I don't get a C in Add maths of course.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 9 2006, 09:58 AM)
Is there a difference between STPM at St John's and STPM at VI?
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 9 2006, 08:08 PM)
I'm not refering to STPM but A-levels which are offered in private colleges.
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Can you see the similarity in the question that you asked and the question that I raised?
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post Dec 10 2006, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 10 2006, 03:05 AM)
Can you see the similarity in the question that you asked and the question that I raised?
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Well actually the original question I asked is whether MMU accepts A-lv students? Since they don't offer the A-lv programme themselves. Sorry if I caused some misunderstandings.
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 8 2006, 06:10 PM)
Well yeah I'm aware that engineering involves a lot of mathematics. I really can say that I can get As for Modern Maths , English. Maybe a B hopefully an A though for Physics. Only thing that's a challenge for me is Additional Maths. It's not that I don't understand anything about it, it's just that I have no inspiration to study Additional Maths back in secondary school due to the teacher being lousy. I know, I know I'm regretting my actions back then.

Does MMU accept A-lv certs from other colleges? For example I take up A lvs in Inti or some other colleges then after my As I would go for EE in MMU. IF I don't get a C in Add maths of course.
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 10 2006, 12:00 PM)
Well actually the original question I asked is whether MMU accepts A-lv students? Since they don't offer the A-lv programme themselves. Sorry if I caused some misunderstandings.
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Do you see your question being answered?

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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 10 2006, 12:14 PM)
Do you see your question being answered?
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Well actually no. I would grateful if you could just answer Yes or No instead. No offence though.
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 10 2006, 03:53 PM)
Well actually no. I would grateful if you could just answer Yes or No instead. No offence though.
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A-level is A-level, there is no difference in where you took it. Just like STPM.

Do you see the answer now.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 10 2006, 04:06 PM)
A-level is A-level, there is no difference in where you took it. Just like STPM.

Do you see the answer now.
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Yes I do know there is no difference in where you took your A levels. The question I'm asking is whether MMU accepts students with A level certs?

The reason I'm asking is because in their admission requirements doesn't state A levels. Or is it that A levels is also known as UEC? They do state UEC in their admission requirements on their website.
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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Dec 10 2006, 04:50 PM)
Yes I do know there is no difference in where you took your A levels. The question I'm asking is whether MMU accepts students with A level certs?

The reason I'm asking is because in their admission requirements doesn't state A levels. Or is it that A levels is also known as UEC? They do state UEC in their admission requirements on their website.
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STPM and equivalent. Yes, A-level is accepted.

If you really want to be sure as to what is considered equivalent, look up the international section. There you see A-level.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Dec 11 2006, 02:05 AM)
STPM and equivalent. Yes, A-level is accepted.

If you really want to be sure as to what is considered equivalent, look up the international section. There you see A-level.
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guys, is it true that our co-cu marks will be max if join NS??cos i din't get NS and quite worried bout that...
and i hav been very active in co-cu in F4 and not so active drg F5:::which was my plan:master co-cu in F4...academics in f5...it worked out well...but if i take stpm, will the co-cu certs worth some points???
thanks in advance....
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No, you don't get max co-curricular marks with NS. About 70% or something like that, I believe. I forgot, but it was definitely more than 50%.

About your second question about STPM and co-curricular certificates, I'm not sure. Though I personally don't think that those certs will be needed to be able to enter Form Six.
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i need someone pro helps here

i juz finish my spm exam and didnt know what to do now as my plan is study in matriks.But how if i not choosen to matriks , it is too late for that time for me to register in college?

i taking 11 subjects in spm and i interest in designing and architect

-bm
-bi
-sej
-math
-addmath
-EST
-fizik
-kimia
-reka cipta
-IT
-PMoral

so i dunno how now..i already apply for matriks but i scare i cant get a place in there
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you're insisting on taking matriculation or you don't mind choosing other pre-U course? there are other options like A Levels, Form 6, HSC, SAM, etc. since you said you're interested in designing/architect (your final decision?) there are foundation courses offered for SPM leavers.

<whether or not the foundation course is good, that's a different story>
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QUOTE(Glassy @ Dec 11 2006, 07:18 PM)
No, you don't get max co-curricular marks with NS. About 70% or something like that, I believe. I forgot, but it was definitely more than 50%.

About your second question about STPM and co-curricular certificates, I'm not sure. Though I personally don't think that those certs will be needed to be able to enter Form Six.
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i meant after Form 6...are those secondary co-cu certs still accepted?
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post Dec 12 2006, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(DragLung @ Dec 12 2006, 03:24 PM)
you're insisting on taking matriculation or you don't mind choosing other pre-U course? there are other options like A Levels, Form 6, HSC, SAM, etc. since you said you're interested in designing/architect (your final decision?) there are foundation courses offered for SPM leavers.

<whether or not the foundation course is good, that's a different story>
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lolz..my school never tell me about A levels , hsc and sam

i dunno how to apply for other pre-U course as in my mind if wan go to any university must go through form6 or matriks...can please someone guide me where to take SAM ,Alevels, HSC..

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QUOTE(lolz_5167 @ Dec 12 2006, 03:16 PM)
i need someone pro helps here

i juz finish my spm exam and didnt know what to do now as my plan is study in matriks.But how if i not choosen to matriks , it is too late for that time for me to register in college?

i taking 11 subjects in spm and i interest in designing and architect

-bm
-bi
-sej
-math
-addmath
-EST
-fizik
-kimia
-reka cipta
-IT
-PMoral

so i dunno how now..i already apply for matriks but i scare i cant get a place in there
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in order to have better chance at applying to any local universities for design/architecture, focus on these subjects: BM, BI, MATH, AddMATH, FIZIK, REKACIPTA. if u're good in arts (although u didnt take it for SPM), u should start ur folio (a collection of artworks), preferrably one that illustrates a wide range of skills that u have.


applying to local public univs, u will need either matriks or STPM or A-levels. the choice is up to u. u can also opt for diploma right after SPM before continuing with ur degree. it's a matter of choice, really. with a diploma, u will skip the STPM/a-levels exam as well as going straight to 2nd year degree. u might only waste a year, but with a better chance of getting into the degree as u have spent longer doing design/architecture rather than STPM or a-levels.


applying to local private colleges, it's either STPM, A-levels or their own pre-degree foundation courses. these courses take about a year, and usually conducted by the college offering the degree. however, these foundation courses arent interchangeable. meaning, u cant use LUCT's foundation to apply for taylor's degree.


design wise, each school has its own strengths and weaknesses. u need to do a little bit of homework. for architecture specifically, public universities fare way better than private schools, and they are better equipped and internationally recognized.
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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 12 2006, 05:58 PM)
in order to have better chance at applying to any local universities for design/architecture, focus on these subjects: BM, BI, MATH, AddMATH, FIZIK, REKACIPTA. if u're good in arts (although u didnt take it for SPM), u should start ur folio (a collection of artworks), preferrably one that illustrates a wide range of skills that u have.
applying to local public univs, u will need either matriks or STPM or A-levels. the choice is up to u. u can also opt for diploma right after SPM before continuing with ur degree. it's a matter of choice, really. with a diploma, u will skip the STPM/a-levels exam as well as going straight to 2nd year degree. u might only waste a year, but with a better chance of getting into the degree as u have spent longer doing design/architecture rather than STPM or a-levels.
applying to local private colleges, it's either STPM, A-levels or their own pre-degree foundation courses. these courses take about a year, and usually conducted by the college offering the degree. however, these foundation courses arent interchangeable. meaning, u cant use LUCT's foundation to apply for taylor's degree.
design wise, each school has its own strengths and weaknesses. u need to do a little bit of homework. for architecture specifically, public universities fare way better than private schools, and they are better equipped and internationally recognized.
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thanks for all the info given..

now what should i do ? i see many college start taking people and i still doesnt apply for any college and waiting my spm result and matriks result...should i go apply for some college as my back up?


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