I can't remember how much is the price of the Su-27 that I bought few years back.. It's a Kangnam brand and its not expensive since it's only 1/72 scale.. It's around rm50 if I not mistaken..
.. Don't worry about the painting.. Just practice and practice.. When I first started this hobby, I only used the industrial paint and ordinary 20 cents brush ..

1. Brushes for modeling you can buy at any art shop.. I bought mine at Serdang but I don't know where is the shop coz usually I ask my friend to buy for me..
2. As for tweezers, i just buy any as long as it can hold the parts
3. Same goes with modeling knife.. I use the multi purpose knife.. As long as it can cut the part from the sprue, it should be ok.. Unless you want to make some panel lines, get a very sharp one lah..



Additional item, that you should have;
4. a putty to fill any gaps,
5. fine grade sand paper to sand the joint and excess putty, and
6. this thing that I don't know the name (refer the pict) We call it "kikir" in Bahasa..

Item 2 & 6, you can get it at 1 shop selling handphone parts at ground floor at Lowyat plaza..


Anyway happy modeling to you yaa..

This post has been edited by mdshahrs: Jul 17 2007, 08:13 PM

you have an Su-27??!!may i know ur address and where u display it?
the kikir want to use for what?how much is a putty etc aa?paint all?excluding the model itself,how much roughly do i need for the equipments?
1)putty
2)paint
3)do i need primer?
4)or the glossy finish thing
5)brushes
6)knife
7)kikir
erm..thats all right?sand paper can get hardware shop so no prob..
i thot of goin to hobby HQ but called them nobody pick up..scared they close today..
anyway thanks alot for the info..

i think u can get ur ans there but the most important thing is money....... first time is expensive.. u hav to buy all the things first.... stil u hav to do more baru will improve tats also the reason i dun wan start

Yep. I have Su-27 but it still in the box.. It's one of my fav kits.. Havent built it yet due to lack of skills and space ... The kikir thingy is used to clean up some parts.. Let say some part does not fit together, you can use either kikir or sandpaper.. For me its faster to use kikir to clean the part.. Plus another thing let say you have to drill some hole but unfortunately you dont have a driller, like me, I will heat some metal and made a hole on the kit using the metal.. To clean the hole, I use the kikir.. I hope you understand what I mean..

For the putty, I use Tamiya putty basic type and Tamiya epoxy putty.. Try to get the Tamiya putty basic type.. It is in tube and like a tooth paste but it dry quite fast.. Or you can get other type of putty..

Roughly this is the price of each equipment that you need;

Putty: Around rm9.90 (tamiya brand)
Paint: Depend what brand of paint you want to use..
Tamiya paint=RM14.90
Gunze Paint= Dont know how much but should be cheaper than tamiya brand + they have 2 type of paint sold here.. Acrylic and enamel paint
Model Master paint= Price should be almost the same with Gunze paint.. I only have 2 bottles of this paint for my russian type plane.. Interior blue green and Fulcrum Grey Green ..

I dont use special primer paint, so i dont know about that.. The glossy finish thingy, U need to buy a paint name 'Clear' or 'Flat clear'.. From my knowledge, Tamiya brand do not have 'Flat Clear'.. So look for Gunze brand..
Equipment is not that expensive except for the paint.. Just buy paint that you need first and slowly buy other colours.. Dont forget to buy a glue.. Tamiya glue is ok and its around rm19.90.. At Miniature Hobby, there is 1 brand of glue that is priced around rm8.00.. It is up of you which one to buy..

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Added on July 8, 2007, 8:31 pmYep I have to agree with you.. Especially when you just started from scratch.. Buy little by little first.. .. Me myself picky about price so most of my kits and paint i bought for a discount price.. Practice make perfect rite.. Anyway its really and enjoyable hobby coz you built by yourself..

This post has been edited by mdshahrs: Jul 8 2007, 08:58 PM

but very expensive......n the model cant last long for display... mayb nex time will start to crack.... i stil prefer diecast.......easy cheap and last long can touch it yet.... dun scare sth will break haha .... btw i m searching for primer... anyone can help me buy?

Primer?? For what?? Want to start building plastic kit ka??

hello!!hello!!hello!!!who will be the first to ask why am i the happiest man at the moment..

jz when to hobby HQ at city square and came back with an Academy MiG-29 Fulcrum..1/48 i think..bought sum brushes,paint trays,modelling blade,putty,etc.but no paint yet..bcos like the MiG for example..need 15 COLORS!!how to buy liddat..izzit advisable for a newbie like me to start painting so early?i when to sg wang later to check out the models when i finally thought..since im also a big fan of MiGs..i dun think ill want to destroy my first MiG..so i bought another F-16 by academy oso to be 'destroyed'..wish me a happy time with my new birds!!coz now im broke..

Wahhhhhhh so nice you have 1/48 MiG?? .. Cool man and now I'm jealous of you.. Buy lah some paint.. Later can see your work.. Enjoy your work yaa.. And don't stress up if the kit have some of problem.. You will understand what I'm saying once you encounter the problem ..

This post has been edited by mdshahrs: Jul 9 2007, 08:51 PM

hehe..u r scaring me..

yeap..ive decided to paint it in a TUDM color scheme although my decals are germans..but will take sum time laa..alot of time actually since ive decided to start with the F-16 first..plan to go sloowwww slowwwww....bcos if finish fast oso no money buy new ones yet..

i am scared of painting

Wahhh.. If you want to paint in TUDM scheme, better you get the RMAF decal.. Go to MH and get one lor.. Dunno how much is the price but it worth your effort.. Dont worry lah about painting.. Like I said before, practice make perfect .. You are using brush to paint rite? or using airbrush?

wah i think u should not start with mig 29 ..... should start with plane which have less color first.... and simple so u will get it done "well" so u have mood to do another one haha if u destroy ur first build... and if its expensive kit ... u wont dare to continue anymore

Yep I have to agree with you.. Keep the expensive plane first and experiment the cheap kit... As for the paint, get the important one.. If you can omit others you can save some money since you just started this hobby..

im using brush ony..later on ony invest in airbrushes..hmm..nice idea about the rmaf decals..will definitely think about it but im not touching my mig yet for now..

which is the reason why i bought the F-16 so i can wreck it..hehe..its a thunderbirds color scheme..quite simple..but looks can be deceiving...

the paint and hobbyHQ running low on stocks..i got what i could but still got sum colors missing..had to grab what i can since tmrrw ill be back in bangi..new sem starting..

btw..for sanding off putty or the extra plastics..what are the orders of sanding?i bought a 360,800 and 1200 sandpaper..do i start with smaller number or bigger?what is wet sanding/dry sanding?

alot of people say its impossible to handbrush an aircrafts entire body..izzit true?i relli cannot afford an airbrush but spray can mebe can la..

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 10 2007, 03:53 PM

The sanding part dunno lah.. Use the 800 or 1200 coz if the sandpaper tooo rough, the plastic details will be damage.. If I not mistaken, wet sanding means wet sanding lah.. Use water to wet the sandpaper and the kit.. .. Dry sanding is the usual sanding.. Another tip is mask the unwanted part that you want to putty to minimise the unnecessary puttying..
Thunderbird?? The aerobatic colour is even harder lor.. I mean the masking part.. The plane colour is white, blue and red rite?? Just imagine how hard you need to mask the area.. But hey, thats the enjoying part..
Just a suggestion, Buy the spray can first.. If you want to use brush, the complete one usually a lil bit crude.. Later I will post u a picture of my completed kit using airbrush and brush.. Hope the difference can be spotted in the pict.. Use the spray can for major part and use brush for smaller part to save money.. But certain plane camouflage in reality do look crude.. Check your reference.. Don't buy/built a lot of kits.. Look for any art students who want to sell their compressor/airbrush.. Usually they have lah kn... Another stupid idea is use the "duit biasiswa" lah ... Jahat sikit nie..

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Added on July 11, 2007, 12:17 amI just pass by at Toy City and I found a die cast black colour F-117.. It reminds me of you Jackygwh.. The price is around rm40.. But it looks like a toy more lah..

This post has been edited by mdshahrs: Jul 11 2007, 12:17 AM

eh issit 1/72 ?? if looks like toy i dun wan lahhh

hahaha..the duit biasiswa alredi used to buy the kits and equipments..if buy samo means makancucumber and sambal belacan for the next few months..

can i usehardware shop spray cans like anchor brand?will it melt the plastic?read that it is lacquer..

wet sanding is for what?whats the difference?

the thunderbirds provide decals..so jz spray it white and stick the decals and im done right?erm..right?

do u know where i can get the 'penitis' thing we used to have in our chemistry labs?the one with the rubber on top and pointy glass tubes..when to a few hardware shop ady osodun have..i need it so that i can have the same amount of paint-water mixture everytime i paint..any other alternatives?

Nope It's not 1/72.. Its around 10 cm.. I think it's 1/100 maybe..

Another way to fill seams without sanding (and losing other details). I got it from www.aircraftresourcenter.com.

- Use the putty as usual.
- instead of sanding, use nail polish remover (NPR). Find the one with acetone. If it is one of those 'environmetally friendly' ones, forget it!
- Moisten a cottonbud with NPR but not too much! Wipe it all along the puttied area, removing the excess putty.
- repeat if necessary. Voila! Filled seam line!

The only hard part using NPR (apart from the need to work in a well-ventilated area - but I think you guys know that already) is getting it....so guys, if you to try this method, 'tebalkan your muka' and ask for NPR at the ladies' section!

hahaha..i just read this from scalemodelmalaysia as well..got my npr at guardian ampang park yesterday..and yeap..i had to tebalkan my muka..looked for the oldest and most 'understanding' looking saleswoman and asked her for the product since ive never seen it b4..cant imagine how it looks like..then have to tebalkan my muka another round at the cashier..samo i bought one product ony..

cashier: (showed me the "eeeeee" kind of smile)
me: serious ni bukan saya nak pakai
cashier:tak cakap pape pon...
me:tu tadi senyum..
cashier:takde la..ingat nak buat kilatkan hidung..
me: ...........???...............

end of the day i drove back happily with my 'follow me' NPR..
so basically i just need to dap the npr on the applied putty right?it will melt?

@mdshahrs
bro..i looked high and low for the kikir sets but still cant find what i want..the hardware shop at ampang park sed no more stock..2 other hardware shops were selling for rm16 for a set of 10 kikirs..too expensive and too many kikirs.

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 22 2007, 08:16 PM

Haha...I have to tebal my muka even more to get my rigging material. Can you imagine getting to the ladies' section to get a set of PANTYHOSE? (I think once i ran out of that thing, I'm going to use fishing lines, or perhaps the missus's hair instead)

Regarding the npr, you need to gosok it a bit. The npr will melt, like water. Oh the melted npr would almost definitely get into other panel lines so you might need some npr-moistened tooth picks to clear them out of the panel lines.

And concerning the kikir, for lightweight job like cleaning up seam lines or sprue stub you can use the nail file / kikir kuku....which means another trip to the ladies' section...