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Solar Water Heater
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ozak
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Jun 22 2012, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(alvinlim84 @ Jun 22 2012, 09:46 AM) Thanks for reply. I am comparing the solar water heater vs normal water heater. As they said, water heater tends to use more electricity. Some people don't recommend to setup one solar because of the cost and not worth it. I don't know washing machine can be connect together into solar system? In that case, then can setup a green energy efficient electricity system to save some $$ for long term. But I am worry the cost to setup is more than the saving  It is very much depend on the amount of hot water usage. If you have more people in your home and use beyond than just for bath, than solar heater is idea for you. The save and return is fast forward if you use more. But not waste more water. Solar heater initial setup is costly. That is most difficult decision for people to fork out the money. More difficult when you tie up with all your renovation cost. So it is for you to see how important this hot water usage. In western country, it is a must and no choice. Going green and takecare the green always cost you more. And they is almost no return. It is just one of the responsibility for the earth. That is why most of people her don't care much. Unless you have money.
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ozak
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Jun 22 2012, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(xecton @ Jun 22 2012, 01:19 PM) Saving electricity in Malaysia does nothing to make the Earth greener. We have more electricity than we can use, and the unused ones just discharge off like that. It does, however, save us from the higher TNB bills. (This in no way supports/denies the savings that you get in term of electricity bills versus the high setup cost of the solar water heater) Gov said not enough wor. Later want to have nuclear plant. Go green mean less carbon produce and it is chain effect. You use less, they (TNB) produce less and the power plant burn less. Who pay the bill to independent power plant if you can't collect more money. Always takecare our wallet first.
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ozak
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Jun 24 2012, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(alyem @ Jun 24 2012, 08:32 AM) Micro Solar having promotion end this month. I am making my booking next week. What is the price and model?
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ozak
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Jun 24 2012, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(alyem @ Jun 24 2012, 09:52 AM) This model without promotion is rm4990.
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ozak
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Jun 24 2012, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(alyem @ Jun 24 2012, 05:37 PM) Microsolar given promotion for at RM4490 without Pump or Rain Shower. I dun need pump for my house as the incoming are at 50psi. (3.5 bar) Look like good price. Can consider. Price include installation?
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ozak
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Jun 28 2012, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(alyem @ Jun 24 2012, 10:21 PM) There is another model M30VTHE for 2-3person. Having promotion at RM3490.
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ozak
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Jul 6 2012, 08:51 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 5 2012, 07:06 PM) Not mandatory, is for time when you get minimal sun light or rainy season. Get micro solar will be very efficient. It is best if the solar heater face to the south side. The sun will rotate certain degree in 6 month. Where the sun will not give high efficeincy toward the north side between jul - jan. Specially and of the year monnson season.
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ozak
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Jul 6 2012, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 5 2012, 10:08 PM) Lastest promotion   Ain't it best if we talk and debate the good and bad of the solar heater. Your promoting sales give me impression that need all this goodies and package sale to hide the bad of the solar heater.
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ozak
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Oct 13 2012, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ May 3 2012, 10:45 AM) Just got my solar water heater tank replaced yesterday. (Under warranty) In the morning the water was lukewarm. Suspect it was because of insulation in the tank. As for heater efficiency. From a lukewarm water in the morning , the water become very hot in at 1.30pm. How is the solar heater perform this 2day? Since this few days cloudy and raining almost whole day, it is best to check and know the performing of the solar heater.
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ozak
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Oct 15 2012, 08:38 AM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Oct 14 2012, 11:50 PM) Water still usable although not as hot as when there was sunny days. No heater was switched on. That's good performance. At least know how best the solar heater can generate the hot water with this few days cold weather.
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ozak
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Nov 5 2012, 12:44 PM
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Boil a 100liter of water take how long? Need an hr?
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ozak
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Nov 5 2012, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 5 2012, 01:37 PM) If using 3kw heating element should be one hour. Can cost 50sen for a tank. Provided boil to 60deg.
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ozak
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Nov 8 2012, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(yumchala @ Nov 8 2012, 10:23 AM) Pricing? Must visit your shop to get the quotation? It is a bit far to me as I'm staying in kajang. will you recommend any contractor to do the copper piping? I've been quoted for more than 1.5 k for each bath room. The price shocks me.. What item that cost so expensive? Copper pipe?
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ozak
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Nov 8 2012, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(yumchala @ Nov 8 2012, 02:51 PM) The all in cost for each point (for each toilet/bathroom). Should be the all in cost such as copper pipe, wall/floor hacking and tiling works. SO You think this is very expensive? I thought each point is like 500 yo 800.. I don't no how big is your bathroom and how complecate the piping running. I see mostly ppl here get quote for rm900 each bathroom.
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ozak
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Nov 9 2012, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(ng_4026 @ Nov 9 2012, 09:01 AM) Maybe his sorento mixer haywire and burn his kuku.
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ozak
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Nov 9 2012, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 9 2012, 09:32 AM) Haha, and blow away  Man, should take your word seroiusly.
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ozak
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Nov 9 2012, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 9 2012, 11:31 AM) And best part, one of the mixer is only use in the weekend... Try to takeout and see got any dirt particle stuck between the seal. Sometime small stone and dirt stuck between and crate a gap.
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ozak
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Nov 26 2012, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(Brick1235 @ Nov 26 2012, 01:58 PM) I am just sharing some experience: I have been using the SolarPower solar tube that I have bought from Builders Hardware. Used it for about 2 to 3 months now and so far so good no complains yet. It has been raining a fair amount these days and yet still getting very good amount of hot water. But this reminds me I have not tested the electric heater yet as every day I get hot water even thou its cloudy. My house have 4 people staying in and most of the time all of us come back at night for showers. My whole house have 1 porch pipe, 3 shower, 3 sinks, 1 kitchen sink and 1 backyard pipe all connected with hot water from the solar tube system using copper pipes. So far been using it in my kitchen and backyard most extensively to wash plates and mops. So far using JohnsonSuise and Sorento mixer for shower and sinks. As for copper pipes its actually not that expensive only the workers salary is very high to put everything together. I happen to have extensive normal pipe service/replacement so I added all copper pipes with no extra salary charge just buying the copper pipes from the hardware shop. How long it take the hot water reach the tap?
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ozak
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Nov 27 2012, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Brick1235 @ Nov 27 2012, 12:18 AM) ozak : It does takes a little bit of time to come out as the pipes are longer from the roof till your ground floor. Less then 2 seconds more or less depending on the amount of water coming out. That pretty fast. Have you measure how many liter of cold water comeout before the hot water? I m concerning the water waste and time to wait. Added on November 27, 2012, 10:15 amQUOTE(weikee @ Nov 27 2012, 07:27 AM) 2 sec is fast for ground floor. My first floor shower got water need about 5 sec. Maybe high pressure kua. 5bar? What is your water pressure setting? This post has been edited by ozak: Nov 27 2012, 10:15 AM
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ozak
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Nov 27 2012, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 27 2012, 10:28 AM) For shower, yeah quiet wasteful 5 sec is lots of water. Ususally I have another small tong fill up the cold water and use it for other things. Lucky i don't use much hot water only morning. Mine pressure not sure, standard grundfos pump without adjustment. Also make me wonder why house owner need hot water water pipe for sink and backyard. Our country so cold meh? When do the actual calculation, quite scary. Let say the solar heater hot water pipe from the roof till the kitchen have 10m lenght and 1/2" pipe. There is about 5liter of water inside the pipe. So about 5liter of cold water need to be remove from the pipe before the hot water reach your kicthen tap. 5liter of water enough for 2person drink each day. Hot water can wash thing more efficiency. Dirt easy can be remove.
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