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TSzheilwane
post Nov 6 2011, 12:24 AM, updated 3y ago

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More and more house owners are using solar heaters instead of instant or storage water heaters. Is it really the best choice?

-If you are on a tight budget and you don care much about having a good shower then instant heater is the best.
-If you are planning to have a good shower but only for one bathroom then get a storage heater.
-If you enjoy to have a shower that has very strong water pressure yet the water is warm and also hope that your family members could enjoy the shower as well then getting a SOLAR HEATER is a must.

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post Nov 7 2011, 02:09 AM

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My dad says (about solar heaters)... When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water. When it's clouded and chilly, you have cold water.

I have to admit, he's got a point! tongue.gif


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post Nov 7 2011, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(kamion @ Nov 7 2011, 02:09 AM)
My dad says (about solar heaters)... When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water. When it's clouded and chilly, you have cold water.

I have to admit, he's got a point! tongue.gif
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But we need the hot water in clouded and chilly day and cold water in hot and sunny day. smile.gif
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post Nov 7 2011, 09:09 AM

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solar is a good solution for environment friendly...

and nowadays the solar price is acceptable , but dont forget have to add on the price for copper piping.....

the price for copper piping might more expensive than the solar itself = ="
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post Nov 7 2011, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(3536837 @ Nov 7 2011, 09:09 AM)
solar is a good solution for environment friendly...

and nowadays the solar price is acceptable , but dont forget have to add on the price for copper piping.....

the price for copper piping might more expensive than the solar itself = ="
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How much now? With add in copper piping etc, still price is acceptable ?

Is this true -> "When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water. When it's clouded and chilly, you have cold water."

How is it environment friendly?




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post Nov 7 2011, 02:40 PM

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dunno i am using a gas heater for the house. can even set the temp to whatever you like so its never too hot. cost is low (around 1600+ and gas) and it can supply as much hot water as you have gas available wink.gif one cylinder can last very long too (for us around 2mths for the water heater alone). seems much cheaper than solar water heater to me.
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post Nov 7 2011, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(kamion @ Nov 7 2011, 02:09 AM)
My dad says (about solar heaters)... When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water. When it's clouded and chilly, you have cold water.

I have to admit, he's got a point! tongue.gif
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If u have a small family like 4ppl then a 60gal solar heater is sufficient, you will have hot water day and night. The solar's storage tank is like a thermos, it can keep the water hot during night time. Unless u have a big family like 8-10 ppl then definitely a 60gal is not sufficient and you wont have sufficient hot water at night.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 7 2011, 11:33 AM)
How much now? With add in copper piping etc, still price is acceptable ?

Is this true -> "When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water. When it's clouded and chilly, you have cold water."

How is it environment friendly?
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about the price i not sure , u can ask ur contractor give u a quotation ...but if you want to do copper piping , new house is the better cos conceal is needed.....if u are 2nd hand house and dint do any renovation .....conceal for the piping wil cost u a bomb = =!~
just for sharing......
standard 2 storey terrace house roughly 6k for copper piping (new house under renovation)

When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water that is true.....When it's clouded and chilly , solar itself have backup heater...

Environment friendly = Zero Electric Consumption
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QUOTE(3536837 @ Nov 7 2011, 08:08 PM)
about the price i not sure , u can ask ur contractor give u a quotation ...but if you want to do copper piping , new house is the better cos conceal is needed.....if u are 2nd hand house and dint do any renovation .....conceal for the piping wil cost u a bomb = =!~
just for sharing......
standard 2 storey terrace house roughly 6k for copper piping (new house under renovation)

When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water that is true.....When it's clouded and chilly , solar itself have backup heater...

Environment friendly = Zero Electric Consumption
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RM6k for copper piping>? Thatz quite expensive. According to a few customers, the average rate is RM 700+ per bathroom. Price is inclusive of hacking and installing copper pipes. If u get ur own foreign workers to do it, it will b much cheaper. RM 6k+ i guess u r getting a contractor to do the job.
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post Nov 7 2011, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Nov 7 2011, 08:23 PM)
RM6k for copper piping>? Thatz quite expensive. According to a few customers, the average rate is RM 700+ per bathroom. Price is inclusive of hacking and installing copper pipes. If u get ur own foreign workers to do it, it will b much cheaper. RM 6k+ i guess u r getting a contractor to do the job.
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Where got so cheap, especially you need to pull all the way down ground floor bath room. I was quote 4k for entire house, exclude sink tap. End up, i got 2 storage tank, and he charge me 1.5k for only two toilet, with storage near the toilet.

But later my contractor just put everything in center because the electrician put all in center biggrin.gif. Oh, electrician also under him biggrin.gif

If i know, i want to buy bigger storage tank smile.gif
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QUOTE(3536837 @ Nov 7 2011, 08:08 PM)
about the price i not sure , u can ask ur contractor give u a quotation ...but if you want to do copper piping , new house is the better cos conceal is needed.....if u are 2nd hand house and dint do any renovation .....conceal for the piping wil cost u a bomb = =!~
just for sharing......
standard 2 storey terrace house roughly 6k for copper piping (new house under renovation)

When it's hot and sunny, you have very hot water that is true.....When it's clouded and chilly , solar itself have backup heater...

Environment friendly = Zero Electric Consumption
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If solar heater rm5k + rm6k for piping =rm11k for a hot water sweat.gif Not cheap.

Since when clouded and chilly, it need have backup heater, it is not Zero Electric Consumption. Can it operate totally without a wire connection? If can, than it is zero electric consumption.

If a solar heater can maintain at least 32c in bad weather, that is already good enough.


Added on November 7, 2011, 9:20 pm
QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 7 2011, 08:49 PM)
Where got so cheap, especially you need to pull all the way down ground floor bath room. I was quote 4k for entire house, exclude sink tap. End up, i got 2 storage tank, and he charge me 1.5k for only two toilet, with storage near the toilet.

But later my contractor just put everything in center because the electrician put all in center biggrin.gif. Oh, electrician also under him biggrin.gif

If i know, i want to buy bigger storage tank smile.gif
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You have 2 solar heater tank?

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post Nov 7 2011, 10:02 PM

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You have 2 solar heater tank?
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2 Storage heated tank. Not solar lah. No money buy so high end stuff.
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i was quoted around 8-7k for copper piping for 6 bathroom and kitchen. add another 4k for the solar heater, its way to costly just for hot water!
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Nov 7 2011, 08:23 PM)
RM6k for copper piping>? Thatz quite expensive. According to a few customers, the average rate is RM 700+ per bathroom. Price is inclusive of hacking and installing copper pipes. If u get ur own foreign workers to do it, it will b much cheaper. RM 6k+ i guess u r getting a contractor to do the job.
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dude....6k not fore only just a bathroom , but for whole house.....
6k is quite cheap ald i could say...
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QUOTE(xain @ Nov 7 2011, 10:06 PM)
i was quoted around 8-7k for copper piping for 6 bathroom and kitchen. add another 4k for the solar heater, its way to costly just for hot water!
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U r not just getting hot water, you are actually buying the shower system. If u wanna get rain shower (big one) and also strong pressure like the hotels, a normal instant heater (RM 200+) cant do the job.

I can intro a plumber who can do the job for less than RM 7k. I guess u got the quote from a contractor. Some contractors just simply quote either to avoid u to use solar or they wanna make high profit. If u get a plumber to quote, it would b cheaper.

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Solar heater still need power, weather like this few week it still need to use electric to heat it up.
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post Nov 7 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 7 2011, 10:56 PM)
Solar heater still need power, weather like this few week it still need to use electric to heat it up.
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True, if it is raining everyday, you nd to turn on the backup heater to heat up the water but you are heating up the water when it is warm and not from cold to hot. So, it wont consume a lot of electricity.


Added on November 7, 2011, 11:03 pmInitial time to heat up a 60 gal storage tank is about 5 hours of full sun light. A 60gal is sufficient for 6persons (10 gal per person) if you have 4 persons using the solar, then u have extra 20 gal of hot water. So, if you have about 2-3 hours of sun light each day, you wont need to turn on the backup heater. Unless u shower at night and also in the morning.

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QUOTE(xain @ Nov 7 2011, 10:06 PM)
i was quoted around 8-7k for copper piping for 6 bathroom and kitchen. add another 4k for the solar heater, its way to costly just for hot water!
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I received the similiar quote. The idea is good but not practical for small family. smile.gif
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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Nov 8 2011, 01:39 PM)
What about Microsolar?
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Weird, seldom ppl asked about microsolar as it is quite hard to find a microsolar dealer but would b a good idea to add in the poll

By just asking around, i found out why some contractors quote a high price for solar piping

1) Copper pipes are exp and there is a risk of the pipes getting stolen before laying the tiles. Contractors will nd to bear the risk, so they hike up the price to reduce their risk of making a loss.

2) Some contractors dont even know how solar heater works, they do not wan to get involved with troublesome work, so they give u a high price to demotivate u to install a solar.

If you get a professional plumber to quote the job, it would b most likely much cheaper compared to a contractor.

For those who are interested in getting a solar and you wanna know whatz the difference between all the solar in the market, u feel free to ask or debate here.

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