We hear more people die from instant water heater than storage. So which is more dangerous

Seriously, LYN should have a like button . To be fair, SOLAR should only be compared with STORAGE heaters as both could deliver sufficient hot water for powerful shower with rain showers. THis is like a 6 star hotel compared with a budget hotel. Have u been to a hotel that uses INSTANT HEATER? Not for me

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This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jun 15 2012, 10:35 PM

Hear Hear .... Well said !!

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Added on June 16, 2012, 12:16 am Direct to the point

This post has been edited by phoenix69: Jun 16 2012, 12:16 AM

Thank you for all the likes and support. I am only speaking from my true experience.

Life is short. By the time we bought our own house we are already in our 30s and some in their 40s. That is half gone. I know solar or storage water heater is much more expensive than instant water heater but we have to live to enjoy otherwise live just to live and suffer there is no meaning at all. Water heater is a long term investment. Like mattress, you can have RM200 mattress and few thousand RM mattress. We need to sleep well everyday and to sleep well is to choose a mattress that support our body well and good ventilation cool our body.

The thing to do is when you get your house key delivered to you and you are doing reno and if you do not have the money for a storage or solar heater do the piping first, the hot and cold pipping to your bathroom for future installation. Do not try having a long bathtub or even jacuzzi. You are wasting your money. We do not have winter. bathtub is for when the weather is so cool you do not want to take shower even with hot water. Taking out cloth is so cold already. In cold weather winter the only thing that make you to wash yourself is if you have a bathtub where you can dip in hot warm water and enjoy for hours warming your body and stay active and healthy with all your cells awaken. Our hot climate even with jacuzzi you will not stay in it for hours or even half hour. You waste a lot of hot water. You only do once or twice in a year and fairly quickly you dont want to stay long. Why? imagine you stay there doing nothing for 1 hour??? with a galss of wine and reading book? Crazy.

We shower everyday and something we cannot do without. some ppl 2 times or 3 times a day. For something we do everyday it is better to enjoy it. Instead of paying RM3-4k for iphone for 1 person use and get obsoleted in one year why not save the money for many many years and for the whole family members. When you dont have a good bathing system it will always on your mind how you wish you have one especially you see other people houses with the heater on their roofs.

In Europe, many people only bath one every alternate day. And in many develop country, many only bath no more than 5 mins.

Malaysia is one of the country waste most water. Use it wisely, and make the best out of it.

ppl here bathtub or jacuzzi just for show only mar, like u say is like comparison of 5 stars hotel and 2 stars hotel. friends/ relative come can show show...........

Stevie8, now you mention it. I jus notice that most of my customers have IPAD & Iphones, some carry gucci,prada, LV and etc bags. Those items are expensive and a PRADA bag could cost you ard RM 5-10k while a Solar Water Heater System with all the rain showers & copper piping cost less than RM 10k for 4 bathrooms.

Some ppl carry a RM 5-10k bag telling me having a solar hot water system is EXPENSIVE.....If APPLE were to come out with a solar heater, i guess ppl will que to buy it ahahah

Ha ha show off is Kalau got lots money which I dun. If our Hse like 6 star hotel how to enjoy hotel facilities when go on holiday. Actually quote fr my wife. Ha ha.

Ok I hear a few good comments, info and thanks guys. I know what I should get.

With a solar hot water system, u wont wanna stay in HOTEL anymore, save $$ no nd go holiday Muahahha Joking

WHen u go for HOLIDAY, when u get back to the hotel, whatz the first thing u had in mind? For me, i will definitely think of getting a hot relaxing shower A.S.A.P, wont it b nice if u have that same shower at home?

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jun 17 2012, 12:05 AM

Yes sure. Always when shower at home after holiday sure missed the shower in the hotel. But I hv lots of wants but limited budget. Hv to prioritize man. Spending on those items that as a family we uses more than once in a day.

I am a bit curious here. How much it can save per month on electricity bill by using solar water heater?

This question needs to be answered by those using storage heater how much they pay extra for electric bill after installation. Also, if you connect it to washing machine it save you even more.

If u r planning to have storage heaters for 4 bathrooms (RM 500 each = RM 2k) while getting a solar is only RM 3k+. U get hot water instantly, save on electricity bill and price difference very little. Averagely, 1 storage heater is 35 litres, 4 = 140 litres while a SOLAR POWER L60 has 270 litres of hot water. How much u save is how much u use and when u use it. Ofcoz, if u use when there is sun light, the solar heater could provide more than 270Litres of hot water per day.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Jun 21 2012, 10:42 PM

Four bath room, one unit Storage heater will do, just like d solar heater.

Unless u r compare solar to instant heater, then 4unit, each bath room one

If you want to use storage heater, few smaller units is better than one big unit. The time taken to heat large volume take times. Sometimes only you alone at home and family members go for a week holiday. You are heating the water for 4 instead of 1 for big tank.

Not forgeting that if you do not use the hot water it will lose some of the heat and waste electricity. Whereas Solar heater you just dont bother to "off". There is no "off" button you cannot off the Sun. Say the whole family go for a week holiday, you off the storage heater switch to save electricity constantly "re-heat". When all of you are back same time at night you got to wait, wait, wait. When the tank if not fully heated you go and take bath and another also take bath, you get cold water. It has to be who first? Who is the boss? Whereas with Solar all of you can use all the bathroom at once at full blast.

When you have something bothering you like the longer you bath the more money you spend, how to enjoy bathing? You dont want to be like singaporean, do you? Their water bill is expensive, it is a pain to take a long long bath. Here it is not the water but electric bill. Every extra minute kill your joy. Forget about taking 2 or 3 bath a day. Better dont bath la so calculative, your kid might say this to themselves when you remind them not to spend too much time in the bathroom.

I don't agree. Skng03 is correct.

If put individual tank, home owner saves a lot from piping too.

Also, for storage tank you don't need big, not like solar you need to store the heated water. A storage water heater size of 68L good for for to five to six person bath.

Take example of yesterday so cloudy do you think normal solar can heat up the 270L of the solar water storage?

For calculation based on 68L storage, assume
If storage run for 1 hours a day, it will use about RM 1.2 a day (using 0.4 per kw). So will cost RM 438 per year only. That i think is already max calculation.

Don't forget solar still need to run power when no sun light.

Thanks for reply. I am comparing the solar water heater vs normal water heater. As they said, water heater tends to use more electricity. Some people don't recommend to setup one solar because of the cost and not worth it.

I don't know washing machine can be connect together into solar system? In that case, then can setup a green energy efficient electricity system to save some $$ for long term. But I am worry the cost to setup is more than the saving

It is very much depend on the amount of hot water usage. If you have more people in your home and use beyond than just for bath, than solar heater is idea for you. The save and return is fast forward if you use more. But not waste more water.

Solar heater initial setup is costly. That is most difficult decision for people to fork out the money. More difficult when you tie up with all your renovation cost. So it is for you to see how important this hot water usage. In western country, it is a must and no choice.

Going green and takecare the green always cost you more. And they is almost no return. It is just one of the responsibility for the earth. That is why most of people her don't care much. Unless you have money.

Going green is always more expensive.

I an using two storage water heater, on normal weekday I only use 10 to 12 units of electricity. With morning bath of 3 person, and night one sometime two person. And everyday 8 hours inverter AC at 23c.

Weekend usually 15+-1 unit

I would assume if I convert to solar my saving per day is about 1.5units

Saving electricity in Malaysia does nothing to make the Earth greener. We have more electricity than we can use, and the unused ones just discharge off like that.

It does, however, save us from the higher TNB bills.

(This in no way supports/denies the savings that you get in term of electricity bills versus the high setup cost of the solar water heater)