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post Nov 18 2011, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Nov 18 2011, 10:44 PM)
Go to a chiropractor. From experience, Chinese traditional methods won't do shit for these kind of things.
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my base at seremban, but i tried google don see any in seremban. if kl anyone knows where the best and the fees as well? pls share hows the progress if anyone of u tried before.
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Nov 14 2011, 02:51 PM)
what advice you want us to give? You say you wanna follow one of the programs, but you say you can't eat so much. If you can't eat that much, THEN separate those meals, you can't fit in 5 meals that is 1.5x of your maintenance cal intake, then split it to 7 meals. Bring in up to 2 shakes a day if you really can't fit in 7 solid ass meals. Choose a program to start with and eat away. What kind of advice you want?
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you clearly didn't read what i wrote then. and fyi i have 7 solid ASS meals a day and i'm sure my diet is much stricter than yours. i don't see your point in replying in such a 'nice' way. many thanks.
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(bobdabuilda @ Nov 19 2011, 01:13 AM)
you clearly didn't read what i wrote then. and fyi i have 7 solid ASS meals a day and i'm sure my diet is much stricter than yours. i don't see your point in replying in such a 'nice' way. many thanks.
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no really, what kinda advice do you want?
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 19 2011, 01:15 AM)
no really, what kinda advice do you want?
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hey there. probably like if it was alright to start the program knowing that i won't hit the the 3.5 cal mark? i split my meals throughout the whole day @ every 3 hour without fail but i can hardly increase the amount of food (carbs particularly, due to bloating).
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(bobdabuilda @ Nov 19 2011, 01:19 AM)
hey there. probably like if it was alright to start the program knowing that i won't hit the the 3.5 cal mark? i split my meals throughout the whole day @ every 3 hour without fail but i can hardly increase the amount of food (carbs particularly, due to bloating).
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if you're having 7 SOLID meals a day, why cant you hit the 3.5k mark? its simple really, regardless of program/routine, if you cant eat above maintenance calories you arent gonna grow. find a way to fix the diet/bloating issue and then do the program. mass gainers would be useful in this specific situation, imo.

on the flip side, do the program anyways. if you're a beginner, you're gonna grow no matter what, and learning how to do the big 3 is always good. the strength gains would help, too.
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 19 2011, 01:23 AM)
if you're having 7 SOLID meals a day, why cant you hit the 3.5k mark? its simple really, regardless of program/routine, if you cant eat above maintenance calories you arent gonna grow. find a way to fix the diet/bloating issue and then do the program. mass gainers would be useful in this specific situation, imo.

on the flip side, do the program anyways. if you're a beginner, you're gonna grow no matter what, and learning how to do the big 3 is always good. the strength gains would help, too.
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IBS isn't something you can heal. doctors themselves do not completely understand IBS as well. probiotics, psyllium husk, diet change, lactose free, pretty much tried out most available remedies found. its just something that comes on and off anytime. i can hit probably 500+ my maintenance (have been for the past months, but with the feeling of bloatness on throughout the day). tried weight gainer to up my cals but it worsens the bloating. i've been making my own homemade gainers which has helped abit. so yeah, main question is, would i manage a linear progress on rippletoe if i don't hit the cal target. cause if i can't, i'd rather stick to my own routine and progress slowly.

thanks for your reply btw, appreciate it.
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(bobdabuilda @ Nov 19 2011, 01:34 AM)
IBS isn't something you can heal. doctors themselves do not completely understand IBS as well. probiotics, psyllium husk, diet change, lactose free, pretty much tried out most available remedies found. its just something that comes on and off anytime. i can hit probably 500+ my maintenance (have been for the past months, but with the feeling of bloatness on throughout the day). tried weight gainer to up my cals but it worsens the bloating. i've been making my own homemade gainers which has helped abit. so yeah, main question is, would i manage a linear progress on rippletoe if i don't hit the cal target. cause if i can't, i'd rather stick to my own routine and progress slowly.

thanks for your reply btw, appreciate it.
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no program would have a linear progression if you dont hit above maintenance cals. im sorry to hear your predicament but its still the harsh truth. imo if you really cant help it i guess a clean bulk would be the only way to go. hit slightly above your maintenance, and eat as clean as possible. supplement with lots of whey i suppose..
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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 19 2011, 01:38 AM)
no program would have a linear progression if you dont hit above maintenance cals. im sorry to hear your predicament but its still the harsh truth. imo if you really cant help it i guess a clean bulk would be the only way to go. hit slightly above your maintenance, and eat as clean as possible. supplement with lots of whey i suppose..
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yeah clean bulk, thats what i have been doing for the past months (200-500 cals above maintenance on different days). i just thought i wanted try something new and at the same time get slightly faster gains as compared to now. did many readings just to realise that it wasn't very much possible so i wrote here to see if anyone has been in my situation before or not.

these were basicly what i ate in the past few months:

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please excuse my half consumed steak.
i have more on my phone but i cbf to upload them, so yeah.

anyway, i guess i'll just stick to clean bulking atm until i find a possible program for myself.

cheers again.

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post Nov 19 2011, 07:54 AM

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You know what, forget it.

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post Nov 19 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(bobdabuilda @ Nov 19 2011, 01:51 AM)
yeah clean bulk, thats what i have been doing for the past months (200-500 cals above maintenance on different days). i just thought i wanted try something new and at the same time get slightly faster gains as compared to now. did many readings just to realise that it wasn't very much possible so i wrote here to see if anyone has been in my situation before or not.

these were basicly what i ate in the past few months:

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user posted image

please excuse my half consumed steak.
i have more on my phone but i cbf to upload them, so yeah.

anyway, i guess i'll just stick to clean bulking atm until i find a possible program for myself.

cheers again.
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Try olive oil shooters to hit your cals ?
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Guys , is doing squats every gym sessions good to max out your full body potential before moving onto the specific muscles workout ? I always do chin ups around 8 - 10 reps before going into my workouts

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post Nov 19 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Nov 19 2011, 07:54 AM)
You know what, forget it.
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huh? okie.

QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Nov 19 2011, 10:46 AM)
Try olive oil shooters to hit your cals ?
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oh yeah, good point! completely forgotten about that, many thanks!

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QUOTE(bobdabuilda @ Nov 19 2011, 01:34 AM)
IBS isn't something you can heal. doctors themselves do not completely understand IBS as well. probiotics, psyllium husk, diet change, lactose free, pretty much tried out most available remedies found. its just something that comes on and off anytime. i can hit probably 500+ my maintenance (have been for the past months, but with the feeling of bloatness on throughout the day). tried weight gainer to up my cals but it worsens the bloating. i've been making my own homemade gainers which has helped abit. so yeah, main question is, would i manage a linear progress on rippletoe if i don't hit the cal target. cause if i can't, i'd rather stick to my own routine and progress slowly.

thanks for your reply btw, appreciate it.
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Since carbs make you bloat really badly, why not try getting the calories from protein and good fats instead? Like shiloong said, olive oil shooters. I don't think any of us have IBS so it's not really something we can relate to, which is why the only advice we can give is from what we do know.
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post Nov 19 2011, 01:23 PM

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Hey guys, are there any natural bodybuilding competitions in malaysia ? i tried surveying and couldnt find any.
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post Nov 19 2011, 07:00 PM

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stuck in the hole for the 120kg squat attempt today.

fun.
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post Nov 19 2011, 11:28 PM

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guys, do creatine upset your stomach too? after i take creatine, an hour later terus sakit perut. is it normal? i'm mixing it with warm water before this, and maybe next time i'm thinking to mix it with protein shake, am i doing this right?
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post Nov 20 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Nov 19 2011, 07:00 PM)
stuck in the hole for the 120kg squat attempt today.

fun.
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i thought more appropriate word would be f uck ? If we never fail it means we never push ourselves to the limit, so that's good. Try again yo

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post Nov 20 2011, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(nasrulbond @ Nov 19 2011, 11:28 PM)
guys, do creatine upset your stomach too? after i take creatine, an hour later terus sakit perut. is it normal? i'm mixing it with warm water before this, and maybe next time i'm thinking to mix it with protein shake, am i doing this right?
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yeah no problems mixing with protein shake

QUOTE(shiloong7081 @ Nov 20 2011, 01:07 AM)
i thought more appropriate word would be f uck ? If we never fail it means we never push ourselves to the limit, so that's good. Try again yo
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yeah, i meant fun in a sarcastic way though, lol. but damn, its frustrating.

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post Nov 20 2011, 10:43 AM

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Guys, I'm new to deadlift. How do I know the back pain I experience after the workout is due to DOMS or improper posture?
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post Nov 20 2011, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Nov 20 2011, 10:43 AM)
Guys, I'm new to deadlift. How do I know the back pain I experience after the workout is due to DOMS or improper posture?
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err. you never had DOMS pain in other parts before? if its improper posture the pain is usually 'sharper'

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