Try ez bar or cable curls. Whichever that's comfortable on your wrists. I don't curl as easy as you. I'm weak -____-

@Justin I meant curl as heavy as you. Damn iPhone.

On a side note, i start with db curls, Uni cable preacher curls and end with barbell curls

This post has been edited by razorboy: Oct 29 2011, 06:42 PM

It's because I focus more on compounds. And I'm weak.

Solid advice. About the upper back

Talk is cheap lol. He is totally ignoring it

that's the one Wong Hong aiming to win right?

I wish I can go. Zzzz. U going man?

wow, that. wow

woah ! u married young !

okay, we saw dark's portionS of his food. where's yours?

I'm day 2 into cutting and here I am, looking at your pictures. Owh gawd

I was offered a very hurtful truth. What I was told is that, in the local bb scene, even juniors are juicing. There's no longer a thing called natural locally. Competition wise.

I mean, I always thought that it's only that much of juicing, only existed in the levels of mr.malaysia or mr.perak of sort, but even at juniors? come on. The guy at the gym , he tried out 7/8 times for Mr.Perak and he only got 6th at best and he was juicing like mad. The Mr.Perak trains at my gym was HUUGGEEE 2 years back, i couldn't even recognize him when I saw him again. It seems that he was taking at least 5 different compounds during those time competing for Mr.Perak and according to this guy, the Mr.Perak (Suhaimi) was one heck of a guy with juice(very good at it). Now he has shrunk to some light weight bodybuilder.

What's the point of guys like us ,dieting like hell,persevering,training our asses off week in week out, month in month out, year in year out? I don't mean to disrespect Dark, but this Suhaimi guy, His shoulders were bigger than my head 2 -3 years back and I have a very big head and Dark would look like a midget next to him. It's so disheartening to know that, at every level of bb competition in msia, juicing is a common practice. It seems that, all you gotta do is go to a doctor, and pay a sum of money and the cycling the post therapy and all, will be taken care off, all you gotta do is be there to be prescribed injections/pills.

Guys that train for the sake of training wouldn't be bothered I would assume, but for those who would like to compete someday, it's very disheartening. Like, seriously.

This post has been edited by razorboy: Nov 6 2011, 05:57 PM

sigh, man , you wouldn't understand, I mean, guys like terry and wong hong and sazali are like an local inspiration to me.

it's like , if you wanna compete you gotta juice. where is the justice in that?

This post has been edited by razorboy: Nov 6 2011, 06:36 PM

yes, I am that naive.

Btw, thanks chris. For the talk

That fatty was me damn ! I'm a fatty . Lol

and then lie down on the ground shouting "I need a doctor !" while holding my lower back

when I'm in KL too

Guys from KL, did Gold's gym KL closed down or something?