fingers crossed! But this HF forum is really helpful. Have been reading the threads quietly for the past 2 months, hence the diet.

Hey bro, if those were your first thoughts I got bad news for you...

Heh... kazam! The steroid thread is gone.

Yes, on 90% unless the hospital has a way to deliberately wanting to screw me over.

It was good effort on pedro's part. He started it off on a good note but you saw the pattern of questioning by some people? It was beginning to look like Steroid Use 101.

You know, I trained at Giza TF 3 weeks ago, one young punk came up to me and asked where to get steroids. I was like wtf how long have you been training.

Aiya 'bang, aku dah train 8 bulan tapi cycle ni tak effective. Nak cuba barang baru. I said f*** you la lazy ba$tard, and i walked off. The fella was stunned but i didn't bother explaining.

Most very young Malaysian bodybuilders are lazy, period. They abuse knowledge. Start off new, juice. Come back from long layoff after gym, juice. Everything, juice. I like f***ing these people up. I think they're pathetic and lazy as hell.

Do you know there are also educated people AND educated about steroids at the same time using it non stop or at least repeated cycles not even for competition? I say again, I'm not against juicing but against abuse. Some people don't even realize they're abusing it. Lol.

Lol got. They wanna cut they take this. They wanna bulk they take this. It's like.... they depend just on a particular cycle to get the desired effect with no importance on whether diet or training is doing the job or not. I mean.... seriously. But nah... doesn't matter. Saw the 20 most overrated supp thread?

What happened with you all and hackwire la? Some crazy flame war.

I don't really know much about him or his personality so i didn't know what to expect. I pop into a thread and I saw scorch marks everywhere from the flame war.

This, I've heard a lot. Especially when I started doing weights, friends around have been telling me 'Oh no! don't do weights until you lose all your fats' kinda crap. AND THEN, when I tell them I'm taking protein shakes, they will go 'Oh no! You wanna look like those super muscular woman?' with their horror face. To date, 10 out of 10 will give the same respond. I think most are not aware what protein actually does to the body.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=47014339

Look at this. One guy said no need to take multivites and fish oil anymore cos he's eating enough veggies and fruits.

The section outside drives me nuts!

Mother of God.

And the problem is really compounded by people who think they know everything spreading inaccurate information to the masses. The tide is just relentless.

No la, I'm just surprised that he can actually not be aware of the importance of multivites. They help a LOT in training. If you think about it, I never trained specifically for bodyweight pull up strength but I'm now pulling my bodyweight. Heck, even the one arm chin is going well on it's staging. But i don't actively train for that particular lift.

just fess up if you actually can't bench 2xbw or there been a mistake, it ain't that hard to apologise. that's what separate a man from a boy.

There's no money to be made in the basics.
Which is why we're surrounded by marketing hype and quick fix miracle products.

Then you proceed to find out every big guy in your gym actually juices. Facepalm

the bars at my gym bent cuz these idiots dropped them on benches instead of the floors. No la, I thought they were natties cuz they weren't big, at least not bigger than me, then they told me they juice -___-

How do u guys clean ur shaker bottles? Mine smells like sh!t each time after using it. Especially on ON whey.