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post Oct 20 2011, 11:02 AM, updated 15y ago

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post Oct 20 2011, 11:09 AM

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Read the stickies.
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post Oct 20 2011, 11:13 AM

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and the workout journals of other members while you're at it
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post Oct 20 2011, 11:52 AM

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y u do so lil????
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post Oct 20 2011, 11:56 AM

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no u wont "improve the size of chest and biseps". drink more of those weight gainers make your waistline increase instead.

stickies bro, stickies
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post Oct 20 2011, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 20 2011, 11:02 AM)
recently this is what i do to train. im currently aiming to improve the size of my chest and biseps.

20x3 6kg dumbell lift for both hands
20x4 wide arm push up
+ muscle juice supplement after training and before sleep at nite

doing this regime alternately between days. (1day do, 1 day rest, 1 day do..)

after 1 day, i could feel the pain my my muscles in the targeted area, so i rest for 1 day before training again. however, after doing it for a while. i dont feel pain anymore after i train. should i keep training until i feel the pain in the muscle again or i should just let the muscle rest? how do i know if my training is adequate?
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post Oct 20 2011, 12:01 PM

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if u can do 20x4 wide arm pushups, it means your load is too light. do elevated leg or uneven pushups instead.
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post Oct 20 2011, 12:02 PM

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it seems that im doing very little. thanks for the pedro.

could you suggest me how much should i do instead?

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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 20 2011, 12:02 PM)
it seems that im doing very little. thanks for the pedro.

could you suggest me how much should i do instead?
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its not the matter of how much of it. it will never be enough. i've been training at home for 3 months before this, and the progress are friggin slow. the only answer is go to gym and do bench press instead. plus, u need variety of exercise to make it grow.
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 20 2011, 01:02 PM)
it seems that im doing very little. thanks for the pedro.

could you suggest me how much should i do instead?
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y u oni train 2 parts?
read the stickies....
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post Oct 20 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 20 2011, 12:02 PM)
it seems that im doing very little. thanks for the pedro.

could you suggest me how much should i do instead?
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Sigh...
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post Oct 20 2011, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 20 2011, 04:42 PM)
Sigh...
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post Oct 20 2011, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 20 2011, 07:54 PM)
im sorry if i tick you off. never intend to do so sifu.
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you didn't. I'm just exasperated. you too impatient. a good physique isn't developed in a day. or weeks.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 20 2011, 10:59 PM)
you didn't. I'm just exasperated. you too impatient. a good physique isn't developed in a day. or weeks.
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Or with only doing curls and push ups
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post Oct 21 2011, 08:36 AM

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really? from what i read i shouldnt work out too many muscles if i want only certain part to grow. perhaps i read wrong.
dont get me wrong, i know muscles wont grow in a short period of time. i just wanted to know if what im doing is right. i do read the stickies already.
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 20 2011, 11:02 AM)
recently this is what i do to train. im currently aiming to improve the size of my chest and biseps.

20x3 6kg dumbell lift for both hands
20x4 wide arm push up
+ muscle juice supplement after training and before sleep at nite


doing this regime alternately between days. (1day do, 1 day rest, 1 day do..)

after 1 day, i could feel the pain my my muscles in the targeted area, so i rest for 1 day before training again. however, after doing it for a while. i dont feel pain anymore after i train. should i keep training until i feel the pain in the muscle again or i should just let the muscle rest? how do i know if my training is adequate?
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how does this show that you have read and UNDERSTOOD the stickies ?
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post Oct 21 2011, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 21 2011, 09:39 AM)
how does this show that you have read and UNDERSTOOD the stickies ?
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rilek bro...
he read today..
tat day he din read...
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post Oct 21 2011, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 21 2011, 08:36 AM)
really? from what i read i shouldnt work out too many muscles if i want only certain part to grow. perhaps i read wrong.
dont get me wrong, i know muscles wont grow in a short period of time. i just wanted to know if what im doing is right. i do read the stickies already.
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how old are you brah?



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post Oct 21 2011, 09:30 AM

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im 23, 61kg 175cm
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post Oct 21 2011, 09:43 AM

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how long have u been training?
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 20 2011, 11:02 AM)
recently this is what i do to train. im currently aiming to improve the size of my chest and biseps.

20x3 6kg dumbell lift for both hands
20x4 wide arm push up
+ muscle juice supplement after training and before sleep at nite

doing this regime alternately between days. (1day do, 1 day rest, 1 day do..)

after 1 day, i could feel the pain my my muscles in the targeted area, so i rest for 1 day before training again. however, after doing it for a while. i dont feel pain anymore after i train. should i keep training until i feel the pain in the muscle again or i should just let the muscle rest? how do i know if my training is adequate?
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Bro, u lift so light and still drink muscle juice, that will fatten you... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Oct 21 2011, 04:53 PM

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im 175cm and 61 kg now. still underweight. i know i can get flabby tummy as well. but im increasing my exercise now. 6x20 dumbell lifting and 6x20 wide pushups now 4 days a week. do let me know if im still not doing enough. im want to progress. need the truth from sifus.

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post Oct 21 2011, 05:19 PM

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My god man read the stickies and the workout routine thread. You will get nowhere with what you're doing now.
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:23 PM

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seriously, can i report this thread as waste of space?
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give him a break. he's new.

lift min 10kg. to begin. whatever u do..it's alwas 10kg. after 2 weeks. up the weights. never back down again. can lift. get help. no help..self help.

u'll make it!
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(JAW-151 @ Oct 21 2011, 05:28 PM)
give him a break. he's new.

lift min 10kg. to begin. whatever u do..it's alwas 10kg. after 2 weeks. up the weights. never back down again. can lift. get help. no help..self help.

u'll make it!
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Thank you for being supportive. This is the kind of help i need. Pointing where im wrong. Not just asking me to read stickies which I did, and i dont think I understand all them all. which is why we need a forum for a purpose of discussion am i right? thanks AW-151. I will raise the bar of my training. 10kg per dumbbell


Update: 10kg for 1 dumbbell is too much. i can only raise it 3 times using 1 arm. scare if my vein is gona pop.

This post has been edited by Mihawk7: Oct 21 2011, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 21 2011, 05:46 PM)
Thank you for being supportive. This is the kind of help i need. Pointing where im wrong. Not just asking me to read stickies which I did, and i dont think I understand all them all. which is why we need a forum for a purpose of discussion am i right? thanks AW-151. I will raise the bar of my training. 10kg per barbell
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I'm quoting this just in case u edit your post. good, from now on, pm him and him only. The only reason we ask u to read the stickies is because the kind of questions you're asking is answered in there. The guys here try to play nice, but you kept on expecting to be spoon fed. If you don't understand the stickies, you can ASK ABOUT THEM, NOT ask like a 3 y.o, how to this how to that.

The statements you make clearly reflect how much time you have tried to understand the basic fundamentals of all this. Which is absolutely minimal

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post Oct 21 2011, 05:55 PM

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alright, my bad. sorry if i offend u in any way. nobody is forcing you to read my thread anyway. peace no harm
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:56 PM

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I'll just be really blunt here. Your routine is crap. Pick a routine from the stickies or from the workout routine thread. Don't know the exercises stated in the threads? Google them and you will get plenty of instructional videos.

Things are very simple, if you start standing on your two feet and putting some effort into things.
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post Oct 21 2011, 05:58 PM

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which routine are you referring to Dan? the initial one or the updated one?
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post Oct 21 2011, 06:04 PM

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2068696

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/371250

Read them both. Pick one.
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New peep, use this
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beginner-t...ks-phase-1.html
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post Oct 21 2011, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 21 2011, 05:46 PM)
Update: 10kg for 1 dumbbell is too much. i can only raise it 3 times using 1 arm. scare if my vein is gona pop.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 21 2011, 06:35 PM)
I will control myself. I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.
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Keep the rage for tomorrow's session smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 21 2011, 05:46 PM)
Update: 10kg for 1 dumbbell is too much. i can only raise it 3 times using 1 arm. scare if my vein is gona pop.
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Actually there's something else very veiny which you can work repeatedly with as many reps as you can and you will never be afraid of the veins popping there.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 21 2011, 06:42 PM)
Actually there's something else very veiny which you can work repeatedly with as many reps as you can and you will never be afraid of the veins popping there.
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u and ur .. well, veiny jokes
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 21 2011, 04:53 PM)
im 175cm and 61 kg now. still underweight. i know i can get flabby tummy as well. but im increasing my exercise now. 6x20 dumbell lifting and 6x20 wide pushups now 4 days a week. do let me know if im still not doing enough. im want to progress. need the truth from sifus.
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brah, u trained at home or in a gym?

tbh, u are those type of ppl tat are stubborn and refuse to listen ... believe me, u are...




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post Oct 21 2011, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 21 2011, 06:35 PM)
I will control myself. I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.
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rofl!
somehow today i am in peace with the world so i'll sit this one out. other regs seems to be doing a great job though!
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 21 2011, 05:46 PM)
Thank you for being supportive. This is the kind of help i need. Pointing where im wrong. Not just asking me to read stickies which I did, and i dont think I understand all them all. which is why we need a forum for a purpose of discussion am i right? thanks AW-151. I will raise the bar of my training. 10kg per dumbbell
Update: 10kg for 1 dumbbell is too much. i can only raise it 3 times using 1 arm. scare if my vein is gona pop.
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errr...then try 20kg.i guess your hand will break.
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 21 2011, 06:35 PM)
I will control myself. I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.I will control myself.
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chill2, bare with me >.<
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 21 2011, 10:26 PM)
chill2, bare with me >.<
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What routine are you on now?

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whassup boss,
from my xperiences:
1 - rest/sleep
2- diet/supplement
3- routine/workout..

try to keep ya workout 1hr or less..dont over train..(check out others routine as given above) or just try monday(chest/biceps) / wednesday (legs) / friday (back/triceps)..good luck! notworthy.gif

EDIT: oh go for light weight 1st...dont wanna u go to hospital 2 soon lol.. sweat.gif

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post Oct 22 2011, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 21 2011, 10:40 PM)
What routine are you on now?
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Oct 21 2011, 10:41 PM)
whassup boss,
from my xperiences:
1 - rest/sleep
2- diet/supplement
3- routine/workout..

try to keep ya workout 1hr or less..dont over train..(check out others routine as given above) or just try monday(chest/biceps) / wednesday (legs) / friday (back/triceps)..good luck!  notworthy.gif

EDIT: oh go for light weight 1st...dont wanna u go to hospital 2 soon lol.. sweat.gif
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I just changed my routine. since my routine is not hardcore like most people. i decided to do 4 times a week. alternating each day.
currently doing 5x10 dumbbell wide pushup, 6x20 wide pushup, 5x10 dumbell pull, and 5x20close arm pushup
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 22 2011, 12:47 AM)
I just changed my routine. since my routine is not hardcore like most people. i decided to do 4 times a week. alternating each day.
currently doing 5x10 dumbbell wide pushup, 6x20 wide pushup, 5x10 dumbell pull, and 5x20close arm pushup
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I see 3 pushes, assume to be pushup variations so that hits the chest.
One pull movement, so that's the back.

Most of us don't deem our routines hardcore. But our routines have a point.
What's the objective of your routine?
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 22 2011, 12:47 AM)
I just changed my routine. since my routine is not hardcore like most people. i decided to do 4 times a week. alternating each day.
currently doing 5x10 dumbbell wide pushup, 6x20 wide pushup, 5x10 dumbell pull, and 5x20close arm pushup
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Whassup Mihawk7,
u house-workout or gym? 4 times per weeks with same body part personally for me not recommended...u killing ya muscle..dont over workout at same body part..

what is dumbbell wide push-up anyway? u mean normal wide push-up but instead of using ya palm u use dumbell or missed typo? sweat.gif

if u a gym member...and equipment is good (For chest workout) try stand bench press (use light weight unless u have someone watch over/help u or machine) /Dumbbell fly manual or i recommended pec-deck machine (again use light weight) /dumbbell pull-over / and incline dumbbell/barbell press...if u can do Dips that is good but pls dont be macho-man..lol.. whistling.gif

but u need to workout other part of ya body cuz they help ya overall workout..like chest..u need good solid triceps to support ya chest routine..good luck notworthy.gif


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post Oct 22 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Oct 22 2011, 12:59 AM)
I see 3 pushes, assume to be pushup variations so that hits the chest.
One pull movement, so that's the back.

Most of us don't deem our routines hardcore. But our routines have a point.
What's the objective of your routine?
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Oct 22 2011, 08:06 AM)
Whassup Mihawk7,
u house-workout or gym? 4 times per weeks with same body part personally for me not recommended...u killing ya muscle..dont over workout at same body part..

what is dumbbell wide push-up anyway? u mean normal wide push-up but instead of using ya palm u use dumbell or missed typo?  sweat.gif

if u a gym member...and equipment is good (For chest workout) try stand bench press (use light weight unless u have someone watch over/help u or machine) /Dumbbell fly manual or i recommended pec-deck machine (again use light weight) /dumbbell pull-over /  and incline dumbbell/barbell press...if u can do Dips that is good but pls dont be macho-man..lol.. whistling.gif

but u need to workout other part of ya body cuz they help ya overall workout..like chest..u need good solid triceps to support ya chest routine..good luck  notworthy.gif
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Im into modelling. People suggested me to buff up my chest and biseps so that clothes looks better on me. im personally satisfied with other parts of my body.

Micro, im only doing my workout from home. i have 2 sets of 6kg dumbbell and thats about it. wide dumbbell push-up seems not to be the universal term i think. what i do is, lay my body on the floor and lift the dumbbel upwards from the side of my shoulder.
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 22 2011, 05:24 PM)
Im into modelling. People suggested me to buff up my chest and biseps so that clothes looks better on me. im personally satisfied with other parts of my body.

Micro, im only doing my workout from home. i have 2 sets of 6kg dumbbell and thats about it. wide dumbbell push-up seems not to be the universal term i think. what i do is, lay my body on the floor and lift the dumbbel upwards from the side of my shoulder.
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When they say buff up you chest and biceps, it isn't to be taken literally. You don't see a huge chest and biceps on a skinny guy, it's all about proportions. What it probably means is to buff yourself up, rather than specific bodyparts.

Your workout doesn't seem to have a point, it's all over the place. Go join a gym and get a proper workout if you can't make sense of the stickies here. What you don't realize is the male models you normally see with ripping bodies are regular gym-goers as well.
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Guys, just leave this thread alone. There's more than enough good solid advices in here. He only wants to hear what he wants to hear. Leave it at rest. When he wants to learn, he will learn drop that f*cking attitude and learn to read
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QUOTE(razorboy @ Oct 22 2011, 07:21 PM)
Guys, just leave this thread alone. There's more than enough good solid advices in here. He only wants to hear what he wants to hear. Leave it at rest. When he wants to learn, he will learn drop that f*cking attitude and learn to read
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Again, nobody is forcing you to read bro =)

@statikinetic: thanks for the advice. will work on other parts as well as you suggested. Sadly my daily schedule doesnt permits me to join any gym. Plus no budget to join one. Perhaps working out from home allow slower development but thats my only choice so far
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QUOTE(Mihawk7 @ Oct 22 2011, 09:02 PM)
Again, nobody is forcing you to read bro =)

@statikinetic: thanks for the advice. will work on other parts as well as you suggested. Sadly my daily schedule doesnt permits me to join any gym. Plus no budget to join one. Perhaps working out from home allow slower development but thats my only choice so far
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if you are a student i dont really see why you cant join a gym. but whatever, that attitude of your aint gonna get you nowhere.

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