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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V2, Read 1st post to find highest rate.

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post Jan 18 2012, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Dino168 @ Jan 18 2012, 12:35 PM)
If put in KFH (interest upfront), then can earn the 0.4% and more (if have a good investment plan on the interest earned) ...  rclxms.gif    But don't think it is that easy, BANKs would have calculated every loose ends ....
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as MilesAndMore said, you still have to pay back monthly, there is no way you going to get 0.4% i.e. you have to deduct the interest you may earn from the portion you pay back.
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post Jan 18 2012, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 18 2012, 02:11 PM)
Why made the calculation so complex?

The bank charges the interest upfront. And then the principal, you have to pay back equally.

Then you put the money into FD. At the end of 12 months, you get back the principal + interest earned. Overall, still earn RM40.00

Of course you need to have ability to pay the monthly instalment la.
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You don't get it, and it is not complex at all. Anyway, my above stated is so that others are not mislead into thinking that they are getting 0.4% as you put it in your example above. But for those who calculate like you, yah, it makes life simple, hahaha
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post Jan 18 2012, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 18 2012, 02:36 PM)
Mind to illustrate it using excel?
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Bro, I not smart enough to illustrate it blush.gif I just figure it out in my head that if I have pay monthly and deposit the balance into monthly FD at 4%, that would also mean I would earn less in interest monthly and no way can end up making RM40 profit at the end of 12 months (based on initial RM10K and using part of this capital to pay back the upfront interest in the first month).

Actually, after posting above, I did do a quick check based on what I mentioned above and ended up earning less in interest compared to interest paid, i.e. negative, making a loss sweat.gif I guess it is like those Islamic FD where they pay you interest upfront, in this case, you are not getting RM10K loan but RM9640.

Other points to be considered:

First thing to note is that interest is charged upfront and therefore the effective interest rate will be much higher than what is stated. For example RHB Easy Cash is a similar plan where they advertise the interest rate is 8% but they are transparent and inform that the effective interest rate is 14.45% for the 12 months plan.

Second thing to note, is there any handling fee besides the upfront interest.

Third and most important, since it is a credit card related promo, is there any penalty if you pay in advance to settle in full/final payment (even if it is a day early) and what interest rate will you be imposed if you pay the day after.

QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 18 2012, 02:36 PM)
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nice work thumbup.gif The last number 416-674 sweat.gif but in your example, you need money in hand to pay the installments which also means you ain't going to earn interest from it.

Having said the above, if one does end up with even RM1 profit, it is like infinity interest since the capital came from nothing, hahaha

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post Jan 18 2012, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 18 2012, 04:56 PM)
See the "Flat" word behind 3.60% already good enough, don't even need to think and you know is sure rugi business.
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Agree based on current FD interest rate.

But, if all follow jack2 method it will show positive (which I have no clue on how he calculates), maybe that's is why some companies can show profit when actually they in the red, hahaha
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post Jan 20 2012, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 20 2012, 12:19 AM)
If the profit rate is 4%, then yes. You'll get 4%, full. Still in doubt ? Go open one yourself.
Once again, the OCBC Al-Amin GIA is exactly the same as HSBC Amanah AGIA-I, AmIslamic Bank GIA (just to name a few) and the profit rate shown to you is fixed!
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haha, so nice of you to keep repeating the same thing. Ya lah, if don't believe go open one to find out or go with other banks.

This week I kiasu, afraid interest rate will drop after BNM meeting. So I did try out the OCBC GIA-i 4% and in 1 year's time I can report back if OCBC GIA-i pays the quoted rate smile.gif

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post Jan 20 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(smsbusiness2u @ Jan 20 2012, 09:25 AM)
Do not simply challenge people.
refer to url below it is no fixed.
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wah, why you so rude wan. He is kind enough to repeat what has been posted for your benefit. If you don't believe him or any of us, you can always go to the bank. Please read first post - CALL THE BANK to reconfirm.

And as ronnie mentioned, if they state "fixed" in their product brochure, then it won't be halal lah. That is why you won't get a Islamic FD that will state "fixed" interest rate, well it applies to Savings Account too.

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Come to think of it, if it was really profit sharing, would that mean that we may get more than the quoted rate tongue.gif

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post Jan 20 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(smsbusiness2u @ Jan 20 2012, 10:05 AM)
he is the 1 rude..asking me to open account to test...why cannot advise me to check with bacnk instead asking me to open bank acc to test?
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To me fair statement as it will answer your disbelieve once and for all, I myself went and open one to "test" biggrin.gif
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post Jan 26 2012, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Jan 25 2012, 06:05 PM)
Guess I will go for OCBC then. No special promo from HSBC now I presumed.
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HSBC is currently having a promo if you open new Premier Account. Look back 2 pages or so.
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post Jan 29 2012, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 29 2012, 12:14 PM)
I think is time to lock in longer tenure now. Regional central banks are cutting interest rates.
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I have the same opinion as you. I went for OCBC GIA-i again this week.

BNM meeting this coming Tuesday.

I passed by an AMBank branch and caught a glimpse of a banner with 4.45%, any one got any idea what is this promotion about?
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post Jan 29 2012, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 29 2012, 05:03 PM)
Personal Loan.
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Thanks Bro.

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 29 2012, 05:26 PM)
I just called Am Bank at 1 300 80 8888, according to them, there was no
FD promotion for 4.45% at this moment..
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Wah, really appreciate your initiative to go find out notworthy.gif

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 29 2012, 05:26 PM)
usually how soon do we know the result after this BNM meeting?
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by evening time, all the news portals will have a statement issued by BNM.

QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 29 2012, 08:18 PM)
Wondering why the banks like to make such complicated FD products! doh.gif
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To attract customers and trap those who don't read the fine prints or don't understand.

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 29 2012, 08:39 PM)
Add all the FD rates, and divide the total rates by 12 months = average is 3.49% for 1 year tenure.

This 3.49% for 1 year tenure is not competitive at all...
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Bro, I think you miscalculated, should be 3.505% ?

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post Jan 30 2012, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Jan 29 2012, 11:34 PM)
I was in Ambank last week and was told that one is loan, meant for government servant only
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Thanks. That is interesting that AMBank is targeting specifically government servants and it's kind of competing with RCE Capital BHD which is also controlled by the same person. Or is it a "RCE product" being offered thru AMBank.

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post Jan 30 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 30 2012, 03:50 PM)
The 4% p.a. 12-month FD OCBC GIA-i account can be opened at any OCBC Bank (non Al-Amin), right ?
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Yes, with RM10K Fresh Fund
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post Jan 31 2012, 05:50 PM

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OPR maintain, for now, that is not bad news for us FDMC gamers.
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post Feb 1 2012, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 31 2012, 08:23 PM)
Yes. Can be considered as a good news. It's been widely reported since last week that economists around the world expect Reserve Bank of Australia to cut their key interest rate. They already cut their key interest rate once last year and should this trend continues, central banks around Asia may follow suit too.
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I just updated my blog and noted that RHB lowered it's 12 months FD rate and SCB across the board! Updated 1st post too, many of the promotions only end this month.

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post Feb 2 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Feb 2 2012, 12:32 PM)
From what I gather in page1 of this thread and also Genx's blog, for a sum of Rm200K, HSBC would give the best returns for 3-month period.
ie. 100k at @4.88% and 100k@3%. (effectively 200k@3.94%.).
Just want to reconfirm.
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Yah, looks that way BUT you got to note that after 3 months you get lower rates and if you don't have min RM200 AUM with them, you're imposed monthly fees (as mentioned by MilesAndMore). If purely for FD purposes, wasting time if you ask me; because HSBC Promo rates are only usually applicable only to NEW Premier account and you won't be able to enjoy future promos. Furthermore, their Premier credit card benefits is worst off than their Visa Signature e.g. No Toll Free CS.

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QUOTE(nash_ph_41 @ Feb 3 2012, 03:39 PM)
thanks for enlightenment, now i clear my doubt
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Just to elaborate further, for tenure above 1 year, interest may be paid half yearly or yearly. So ask when depositing. Then there are some FD accounts like for Senior and Juniors where interest are paid monthly.
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post Feb 6 2012, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Feb 6 2012, 12:56 AM)
CIMB Gold Account not competitive compared to UOB.
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post Feb 11 2012, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Feb 10 2012, 03:57 PM)
The other day I opened the OCBC GIA 4% FD on a Saturday.
The cheque cleared 2 days after the start date.
Would it still use the original start date on the certificate ?
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Your cert dated last Saturday?

As nomen said, usually cert start date same as the day you deposit for FD; however, previously UOB had a special promo after working hours i.e. after 4.30pm and the cert starts the next day.

QUOTE(gsc @ Feb 10 2012, 11:20 PM)
that will be good. Can transfer those 3 mth FD when mature to this ..
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Most of the promotions end this month. I wonder if we still can get 4% after March 2012.

Next week I am going to shift some of my children's fund to UOB 12 months @ 3.75% since they have existing FD account with UOB (had to obtain "special permission" from UOB manager to open children FD last time). Was considering the OCBC GIA-i 4% but too rush as they finish school close to 4pm, also I got no idea if OCBC allow children to open GIA-i "FD" account.

Oh, to update you guys, got my OCBC FD Statement and it states 5%, same as cert, for the entire amount I deposited in January smile.gif
sylille, if you are still following this thread, did you get the same?

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QUOTE(sylille @ Feb 11 2012, 03:23 PM)
No, I didn't get any statement from OCBC.  Found out consolidated statement sent only to customers who have current accounts.  So, will wait till maturity to find out if full interest is paid on all the FD slips showing the 5% rate.
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My statement is as follow:

Summary of Your Fixed Deposit Account/Huraian Akuan Simpanan Tetap: XXXXXXXXXX
Deposit No, Principal Amount, Term, Rate, Maturity, Interest Due. Interest Disposition and Remakrs.

Fixed Deposit Transactions/Trasaksi Simpanan Tetap:
Deposit No, Date, Transaction Details, Debit and Credit.

I received a separate statement for my current account. Yet to receive statement for GIA-i 12 months.


QUOTE(sylille @ Feb 11 2012, 03:23 PM)
On Wednesday, 8th Feb, I uplifted my one-month Islamic GIA deposit which matured on 4th Feb and was surprised to learn that OCBC does not give back-interest for the 4 days public holiday.  They said back-interest is only given for conventional FD but not Islamic GIA deposit.  

Also found out that Mighty Savers weekend promo rate of 4% (3 mths-conventional FD) is not restricted only to children below 18 yrs old.  Adults also can enjoy the promo rate provided they open a savings account as well.  Min placement is 10K and max is 50K.  The FD will start on the next working day, meaning if you issued a cheque for 50K to open FD on Saturday, 4th Feb 2012, the term will only start on Wednesday, 8th Feb 2012 (minus the long weekend holidays).  It does not matter when your cheque is cleared. 

A strange thing about OCBC is that kids above 12 yrs old can open savings account in their own name if they have an IC.  But, if you are to open a Trust Savings Account, meaning parent/legal guardian in joint names with the kid, OCBC need the child's original birth cert even if he/she has an IC.  The parent/guardian can enjoy the promo 4% FD only if they open the Mighty Savers Account which is a Trust Savings Account. Unless you are really intent on opening a Trust Savings Account for your children, I think it is much more straight forward to just go with the adult version of the Mighty Savers Weekend promo which is on every first Saturday of the month.

Talking about ICs, please note that HSBC requires passports to open accounts with them even if you have a red PR IC.  Also, their GIA deposit cannot be uplifted on the same day it matures.  You will have to wait for the next working day.  Thus, if your GIA deposit matured on Friday, 3rd Feb, you cannot touch your money until Wednesday, 8th Feb.  That's about 5 days of 'lost' interest! I am sure they, like OCBC, do not give back-interest for GIA deposits as I have to 'lose' one day's interest when my RM made a mistake on my GIA deposit with them. After rectifying the mistake, she could not back-date the GIA deposit slips - the term starts on the next working day.  She said she could have back-dated the placement if it had been a conventional FD.  So, beware if you want to open GIA deposits.
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Thank you for the above valuable info.

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post Feb 12 2012, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Feb 12 2012, 10:41 AM)
In this case, the champaign rate of 3.75% got to be prorated to 3.0% effectively.
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Ya lah, what a joke since the amount inside the Savings Account (earning miserable interest) cannot be withdrawn or utilized for 90 days; might as well go for board non promo 3 months. Anyway, updated 1st post on this MBB Promo.

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