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post Jan 3 2012, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 3 2012, 06:39 PM)
No la Bro, This morning I went to OCBC with the initial intention of placing fresh fund for the "Real Deals Premier 5% 3-month Fixed Deposit Promotion" But was turned down by OCBC because I'm already an exiting premier customer.  They want new premier or new upgrade to premier only. So no choice, settled for the 3.8% 9 months.
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Bro, below is the link to the Terms and Conditions:

http://www.ocbc.com.my/personal-banking/Pr...ec2011%20V1.pdf

it is stated in Clause 2.2.2

Premier Banking upgrade refers to upgraded customer (existing mass / mass affluent customer) with top up / no top up so long as at point of upgrade, the customer meets the minimum RM 300,000 Asset Under Management (AUM).

and Clause 3.1.3

The minimum FD placement under this Promotion is RM10,000 and maximum FD placement is 50% of customer’s (AUM) on the date of the placement (including the FD placement amount) or RM1 million whichever lower.

Therefore, it should be applicable to existing customers since the minimum deposit is RM10K.

Bro, if still cannot, still not too late, go withdraw tomorrow (cash if necessary) and have your wife and open new join account where she is the principal wink.gif

QUOTE(ultraman29 @ Jan 3 2012, 06:47 PM)
chief, i have read the link u have provided. perhaps you can look at clause 3.1.3?

3.1.3. The minimum FD placement under this Promotion is RM10,000 and maximum FD placement is 50%  of customer’s (AUM) on the date of the placement (including the FD placement amount) or RM1 million whichever lower.

the stack of docs which u have signed doesnt have this clause?
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go read Clause 2.2.1

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QUOTE(ultraman29 @ Jan 3 2012, 06:56 PM)
2.2.1 talks about eligibility, ie for new customers like u. but u r still subj to clause 3.1.3. no?
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I get your point, if one was to read Clause 3.1.3. it did not specifically state that it is only applicable to existing customers.

All I can tell you is I got 5% for the full amount I deposited into FD. Like I said, go talk to a RM to confirm once and for all.

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 3 2012, 07:01 PM)
Bro, I looked left right center, I still don't see I fit in to the above T&C  rclxub.gif  Where got wor ?
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From Clause 3.1.3, what I interpret is that assuming you have RM300K AUM with OCBC, you can deposit up to RM150K to enjoy the 5% interest but you still got to open two new accounts. Now, if you already got a current or savings account, you still can choose to open other products from the list. **Edited** Maybe not, it just state need 3 Products and not NEW products.


hahaha, the terms and conditions confusing all of us. Just go talk to a RM for those who are eligible to open NEW account (which includes Joint Account with someone else being the Principal if you are already a existing PB).

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QUOTE(ultraman29 @ Jan 3 2012, 07:14 PM)
i already grilled the rm earlier, they kept saying 50% only. then they let me looked at the t&c. i donwan to put all the funds there and then later they come tel me this is what u sign so heres your reduced interest sum.

so did u get a slip with full 5% on the full sum?
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Yes, 5% full sum. But based on what you mentioned above, there is a possibility I might get a call from my RM soon telling me she made a mistake sweat.gif But I doubt it since I already got my cert.

Actually it was the same for previous Citi Gold offer of 5% for savings account where it was mentioned something like one needs to be a Citi Gold account holder and only after the RM200K get the 5% interest. But it was not the case for new account.

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 3 2012, 07:20 PM)
Let's look at eligibility only.

At level 2.1, I pass, then proceeded to level 2.2, I'm already disqualified, can't even proceed to 2.2.1 or 2.2.2 etc. 

Perhaps OCBC interpret Premier Banking upgrade as existing OCBC non premier customers upgrade to premier ??

Added on January 3, 2012, 7:23 pmAlready asked my pretty RM this morning, she said can not.
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Bro, maybe you are right on the non premier to premier. But then again it says no need top up as long as you have RM300K AUM.

2.2.2 Premier Banking upgrade refers to upgraded customer (existing mass / mass affluent customer) with top up / no top up so long as at point of upgrade, the customer meets the minimum RM 300,000 Asset Under Management (AUM).

Ar, blur lah, go talk to the Manager better lah.
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QUOTE(gsc @ Jan 3 2012, 09:45 PM)
In the evening received call from OCBC staff trying to promote the premium account. She mentioned only 50% deposited entitled to 5% interest rate. Example, out of 300k, 150k-5%, the rest either 3 or 9 mth promote rate.

But seems Gen X able to get all on 5% rate? Anyway will drop by bank tomorrow to find out more.
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Bro, do you have or previously have an account with OCBC? If yes, that may constitute upgrade to Premier as pointed out by aeiou228

Look like everyone reporting it's max 50% of AUM, like what is stated in the terms and conditions and as pointed out by ultraman29

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 3 2012, 07:20 PM)

Added on January 3, 2012, 7:23 pmAlready asked my pretty RM this morning, she said can not.
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Bro, did she mentioned to you on the 5% thingy, i.e.only 50% entitled to the 5%

To ALL: I have reread Clause 2.2.1 - it states

Premier Banking new sign up refers to customer with no product holding, has never had a deposit/investment/bancassurance account with OCBC Bank prior to sign up.

I Wonder if above makes any difference. But then again, clause 3.1.3 still holds.

Anyway, getting 50% at 5% still good if one was only going for the 3.8% for 9 months.

QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 3 2012, 08:08 PM)
did you withdraw from scb using bankers cheque?
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yes, they charge me RM2.15 for each cheque vmad.gif

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 3 2012, 11:39 PM)
5% for all the money  deposited would be something.

If only half the money get 5% and that 5% is only for a short 3 months period only, not a good deal at all.

If you have just Rm20k you can get FD at more than 4% at the other bank, why bother about this gimmick 50% fund at 5% only for 3 months??
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You are right if a person is looking at 9 months or 1 year FD, I will agree with you because we don't really know what is the rate after March. If you average it out based on current 6 months FD rate for the balance 50%, the total combined rate is lower than 3.8% for 9 months. So if want 9 months, go with 3.8%

It all depends on the individual needs and their planing.

Even if I was offered the 50% thingy, I would have also accepted the offer since I also "yeow-kwee" the 5%, hahaha, It's like getting 5% since October 2011 (SCB Promo) to April 2012 (continue with OCBC Promo).

Or maybe it is because the bank that is offering 4% don't have pretty tall leggy RMs, just kidding.


QUOTE(sylille @ Jan 4 2012, 05:22 AM)
Hi, I am new to this forum which I have been following for quite sometime.  Want to thank you all for the very usefull info which helped to save a lot of legwork and phone calls when I need to 'pindah' my money from here to there:)

Thought its time I do some community work too, especially some of you seemed to have been stumped or stung by this crazy OCBC 5% deal. So, here's my very loong and bizzare story with OCBC.  Please bear with me.
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Thanks for sharing.

Aiyah, why go highlight to the dump guy about clause 3.1.3.... now others cannot enjoy the 5% FD rate like you and me tongue.gif

It is most unfortunate for you that you met up with the "guy" that is clueless (maybe not, maybe he was smart and his only intention was to sell you their bank's product to meet his quota). I was lucky on the other hand.

If you have read my article at my blog on Premier Banking, I have mentioned that RM are marketing people and so are the execs (some are called Personal Banker) at the main banking hall. All banks staff are pressure by management to sell products by the banks including making them getting new sign up for credit cards. Please note, RM are not employed by the banks to serve their customers but their main function is to get business.

The way I see, the reason why no RM attended to you is because it was late ( maybe they had to finish their reports for the day or some other paper work and got no time to go rectify the mistakes by the bawah guy ), but maybe the main reason is that your signing up of the Premier Account goes to the "bawah" guy quota and the RM nothing to gain. This paragraph is pure speculation but that's how I see it.

You say "yeow-kwee", well, that's your way of being humble. It makes no sense to accept a lower rate when you can gain more, right tongue.gif


QUOTE(gark @ Jan 4 2012, 09:38 AM)
Went through so much trouble for a slightly higher FD? Is it worth it?  I don't really find all these 'Premier' status useful, with the free coffee, nice washroom and what not.  rclxms.gif Lol the last time I went to priority banking (to cancel my card), with shorts and cheap slippers, the clerk look at me one kind.  laugh.gif

For my FD I prefer to use e-FD although the interest is lower but is much more convenient to me.
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Slightly higher FD? If you get to earn buta money, yes it is worth it smile.gif With just difference of 0.5% and minimum RM200K deposit, that's RM1K/year. Then again, you must be filthy rich and few thousands ringgit is nothing to you tongue.gif

I also wear slippers and T-shirts to banks, hahaha. Actually, the older people who wears "pagoda" t-shirt inside and an unbutton white shirt outside are rich people, and command the most respect from the banks wink.gif

There is one benefit of having Privilege Banking with certain banks where you do get very good rates for foreign exchange. Example, RHB, HSBC and UOB. For my case, besides the exchange rate, I just "yeow-kwee" their credit cards (UOB especially for free coffee and pastries at Orchard Road but OCBC CC useless) and coffee rolleyes.gif Most PB centers have very few tellers/cashier, during peak time, I would go take a cup of coffee from there and proceed to general banking hall to do my transactions.

Maybe your location is not convenient for you to go to many banks, but for me, most of the banks are in easy reach, and maybe I got nothing better to do also, hahaha.

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 4 2012, 03:17 PM)
But incompetency also has its positive side, like we witnessed 2 of our forumers here getting full 5% FD due to incompetent staff.  thumbup.gif
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yaya, for both our case, but now that sylille highlighted to them Clause 3.1.3, I guess maybe both of us won't even get the full 5% sweat.gif The thing is, is not only one person but several people are involved in issuing the cert (e.g. two signature in the cert and approving of PB status).

QUOTE(lkcheng @ Jan 4 2012, 03:26 PM)
Lucky today I was served by a young, sweet and polite girl. She doesn't promote anything, just help me fill up all the forms to place the FD. If it was auntie serves me, then she sure will promote a lot of thing to me before let me into the promo FD.
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My new RM was also good too, she only asked me to open a savings account with RM20 and current account with RM1K as compared to sylille case.

sylille, come to think of it, how come you can point out to them clause 3.1.3 but not the other products to qualify for the promo? Here's a suggestion if they want to rectify the 5% thingy, make a fuss about you being conned into opening new product with higher deposit as compared to a normal savings account. But then again, no need waste your energy.

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 4 2012, 07:29 PM)
Erm.. extra a few % is not interesting to me. This is maybe as I treat my cash in FD is my opportunity fund which I might cash out if there are other good investment opportunities out there to be deployed. Using e-FD I can liquidate my FD and immediately I have funds in my SA to deploy elsewhere.  If there are no other place to deploy it sit in a 1 month FD divided into chunks of RM 20K each.  wink.gif

Chasing short term FD promotional rate and opening bank accounts all over the place is just too time wasting for me.  sweat.gif
notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif And for your case, understandable lah, 1 month FD where got promo tongue.gif


QUOTE(gark @ Jan 4 2012, 07:29 PM)
For exchange rate, changing at money changer have better rate, so far I have seen. Anyway saw their coffee machines & tea bags but never taken any before, is it nice? Bank is not a natural place for me to hang out and have coffee, and their premier service is also so-so only.  laugh.gif
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wah, overseas transfer with money changer, not traceable yah sweat.gif
As for coffee, I don't really care the taste, addicted to it as great combination to go with my fags biggrin.gif Like I said, I even do my transactions at the general banking hall, haha As for service, you must get aeiou to recommend to you his pretty RMs tongue.gif .

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QUOTE(ycs @ Jan 4 2012, 08:44 PM)
initially, the RM also said 5% for full amount but after checking with his boss, only 50% of AUM can enjoy 5% for 3 months.
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I bet you were happy when you were told initially that you can get 5% interest for 100% deposit.

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 4 2012, 10:44 PM)
I went to OCBC this afternoon, RM there told me that in order to get
5% interest rate, I can put 50% of fund into 5% FD p.a. account for
3 months term.

And the remaining 50% of funds will put into 3.8% p.a. for 9 months
term, but need to open the following accounts:
     (i)  FD account
     (ii)  Saving account (RM 20 to open)
     (iii) Current account (RM 400 to open)

According to OCBC, deposit all 100% fund straight into 5% FD account and
without opening a saving account and a current account is not allowed.

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BoomChaCha,

firstly, I must apologize to you (and to others) for "misleading" you on the 5% (which is no fault of mine actually since I did get it) until I read the Terms and Conditions (which I posted subsequently).

Your RM better, only advised you to deposit RM400 instead of RM1K.

And what you mean by 100% fund into 5%?


QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 4 2012, 11:43 PM)
But wait till you reach the level when it is no longer practical to split the FD into blocks of RM20k because it is so time wasting for you and the bank teller
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That's why he uses e-FD, haha. Any maybe his RM20K is for every single day. I hate it when uncles and aunties go to the bank with a bundle of FD certs to have them updated and making me wait for my turn.

QUOTE(sylille @ Jan 5 2012, 02:01 AM)
The cost of the mistake may be higher for him than me - he could well lose his job.  I believe in giving people a chance, especially a green-horn like him.

I am well aware of the modus operandi of RMs.  That's why whenever I was assigned one, I would tell them upfront not to get their hopes high that I will be a 'captured market' to push their products, firstly because I am very risk-averse, thus this obession with FDs tongue.gif

then playing musical chairs

For me, I am a housewife with grown-up children, I have plenty of 'wu liao' time to play money musical chairs to earn me some small change to pay for my Unifi connection (no money for Ipad2 or Iphone whatever) and perhaps a pair of Vincci slippers. 

'pennies' is the operative word here

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From what I read, you are a person with high principles notworthy.gif

Me too, will tell RM upfront don't bother offering non guaranteed products, maybe that is why none of my RMs ever calls me or maybe they know I don't have much money, haha. But my UOB RM did sent me a New Year greeting and I only met her once when opening the account and talked to her once over the phone.

Nice term there - musical chair smile.gif Well, at least we have something to keep us occupied,haha. As for slippers - instead of getting a Fitflop slipper, can get many pairs of Vincci and more often too. You must talk to my wife and teach her the joy of counting pennies and that a penny saved is a penny earned.

@Miles - I was wondering how a "newbie" can reply the way she posted until I read the note.

QUOTE(jack2 @ Jan 5 2012, 06:43 AM)
Long time ago AmBank has Top Rate FD promotion, and I have one with 4.3% FD rate.
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I have been checking AmBank for the past 2 quarters, odd, they got no promo for Top Rate.

QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 5 2012, 07:41 AM)
OPR goes up... mean FD rate will go up in tandem.... NICE !!!
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That report obsolete lah, with current global conditions, don't hope that BNM will raise interest rate anytime soon.


QUOTE(MGM @ Jan 5 2012, 08:05 AM)
Do you need to have a premier account first and a total AUM of rm300K ?
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No, by you depositing minimum RM300K, where 50% say goes to 3.8% and 50% goes to the to 5% 3 months FD (on condition you have another two products with the bank), you would have RM300K in AUM on that day and thus satisfying the condition to be eligible for Premier Banking and the 5% offer.

However, for upgrade to Premier, I think it means 50% of current AUM before upgrade PLUS whatever amount of new fresh funds. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 5 2012, 10:36 AM)
Just notice that my e$aver account becomes e$AVER PLUS ...
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QUOTE(gsc @ Jan 5 2012, 11:07 AM)
4%-SCB staff told me you need RM1kk to enjoy that notworthy.gif
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here is the latest on SCB offer.

eSaver Plus Account, for selected customer who had previously deposited RM1,000,000 in October, they will get special interest rate based on tiers.

First RM500K - RM3%

Next 250K - 4%


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QUOTE(tifosi @ Jan 5 2012, 12:46 PM)
What if I deposit more than 750K? What are my interest for my RM 750000 to the max bank limit? Or did you mean someone needs to deposit in blocks of RM 250K to enjoy the 4%?
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The thing is my going to be ex-SCB RM started off by telling me I DON'T QUALIFY and she did not mention the rate after RM750K and no point I ask because I already was told I was not eligible for it.

I just check, my saving account also now ESAVER Plus, I guess that's why my RM told me to maintain RM250K with her as I will be getting 3%. But heck, with 3.8% interest from OCBC, that's equivalent to extra RM2K per year buta money if it was for a year FD. So withdrew my funds and going to surrender my SCB VI soon sad.gif

QUOTE(turion64 @ Jan 5 2012, 01:50 PM)
Bro Gen-X,

Just wondering what are the differences between the below (because u stated Affin offer the best rates) :

12 months is by Affin Bank at 3.6%.

9 Months by OCBC at 3.8%

12 Months by UOB at 3.75%

thx bro.
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Bro, when I mentioned Affin's rate the best, I guess I was comparing over the counter rates (for major commercial and foreign banks only) and not promotional rate.

So currently, if you have RM10K and above, UOB 12 months rate at 3.75% is the best if you do not consider Coop Banks.

If you are looking at more than RM10K deposit for 3 months and 9 months, then OCBC promotion rates at 3.6% and 3.8% respectively are currently the best, once again if you do not consider Coop Banks.

QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 5 2012, 04:36 PM)
Oh sorry, I put it too briefly. It simply means instead of placing money in fd, place it in od to cover up the outstanding overdraft. OD interest is always higher than fd interest. i don't earn the OD interest actually but I save from paying the high OD interest.
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Above should be the correct way instead of depositing cash into FD and end up paying more in interest when one utilize their OD. The OD facility is there when you need it anyway. And see, it is good to be kiasu, even it that means going for FD with a little bit more interest, you'll end up earning more biggrin.gif And I guess you benefited from reading the threads at credit cards where some use BT to save on their housing loan interest thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(turion64 @ Jan 5 2012, 05:42 PM)
thanks for clarifying. what does coop bank means?
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Example of a coop bank is Bank Rakyat, please see Post#2.


QUOTE(Dino168 @ Jan 5 2012, 05:58 PM)
If 5% is printed on the FD slip, can the bank still do rectification later?   The FD slip itself is a legal document, right? 

The RM that I contacted, said all RM300K enjoy 5% + opening of saving and current account.   At the end of 3 months, can close everything.
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Well, fast fast go deposit with that RM, waiting for what tongue.gif


QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 5 2012, 07:10 PM)
I doubt they have a proper product training before they launch this product...

It is better to take OCBC 3.8% for 9 months term
rather than UOB FD promo...
With many of us reporting different versions of what we were told, in my opinion, the person who drafted and also the person who approved the Terms and Conditions are to be blamed.

Bro, as I mentioned before, if you want 9 months FD, yes, better you go with 3.8% because if you average out the 3 months promo and current 6 months board rate, you'll get lower than 3.8%.

If you want 12 months, go with UOB.


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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 5 2012, 09:58 PM)
I forecast and calculate the average FD rates from OCBC is roughly 3.9% p.a.
after 9 months.

Let's assume if withdraw the portion of 5% fund from OCBC and deposit it to another
bank for 3.5% rate after 3 months, 3.5% (another bank) + 3.8% (OCBC) = 7.3% divided by 2 = 3.65%
(1) 1st  month    5%    + 3.8% = 8.8%   /2 =   4.4%
(2) 2nd month    5%    + 3.8% = 8.8%   /2 =   4.4%
(3) 3rd month     5%    + 3.8% = 8.8%   /2=    4.4%
(4) 4th month   (3.5%) + 3.8% = 7.3%   /2=   3.65%
(5) 5th month   (3.5%) + 3.8% = 7.3%   /2=   3.65%
(6) 6th month   (3.5%) + 3.8% = 7.3%   /2=   3.65%
(7) 7th month   (3.5%) + 3.8% = 7.3%   /2=   3.65%
(8) 8th month   (3.5%) + 3.8% = 7.3%   /2=   3.65%
(9) 9th month   (3.5%) + 3.8% = 7.3%   /2=   3.65%
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(4.4% x 3 months) + (3.65% x 6 months)  =  35.1% / 9 months = 3.9%
This is only a rough estimate...
Does this make sense..?

fourth month and above you may not get 3.5%, current board rate for 6 months 3%.

**Edited Again**

I reread your post again, you're forecasting, well, what if SCB offer 5% again in 3 months time tongue.gif The fact is we don't know.

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 5 2012, 11:50 PM)
where exactly is the OCBC FD 5% Terms & Condition URL ?
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Bro, next time please read last few pages before posting. I just had to say it to be seen impartial to newbies, hahahaha.

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 6 2012, 12:30 AM)
Captain, I predict UOB or other banks will have another FD promo after 29 Feb 2012,
so I forecast the FD rate 3.5% as a conservative figure.
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Did you know that UOB revised their board rate for 12 months FD lower on 15th December 2011.

And if you see the trend, HLB is offering lower FD rates compared to November's offer.

I am not saying that there will not be any promos but we don't really know. Then again, we can always go with Affin.

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 6 2012, 12:30 AM)
I doubt anybody today will park their extra money in FD based on board rate, unless they do
not read newspaper at all...
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well, gark does

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 6 2012, 12:30 AM)
I will take OCBC's 3.8% for 9 months term as I think this is easy for me.
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I will tend to agree if you are looking at 9 months FD because it is the best rate for now (for major commercial banks and foreign banks).

QUOTE(ronnie @ Jan 6 2012, 12:30 AM)
was looking for it in your blog... but too black to find it.
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hahaha, the link to OCBC T&C is there too, next time use a torch light tongue.gif

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 6 2012, 01:17 AM)
Because gark is a rich man
No, he is freaking rich tongue.gif

I think we can categories the people here as follows

FDMCG - FD Musical Chair Gamers
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FRMONBWFDP - Freaking Rich Members Or Not Bothered With FD Promotions
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Anyone else want to be listed the clubs above?


QUOTE(lkcheng @ Jan 6 2012, 11:38 AM)
2.85% cannot be the effective rate for the OCBC FD. After 9 months of OCBC FD you can take out the money and put it on another promo FD. For instance, if you place FD on 1st Jan on OCBC for 9 months at 3.8% and when the OCBC FD mature on 1 Oct and you can take out the money to place in another bank for year end FD promo say at 5% for 3 months. Then the effective interest rate you get for 12 months is 4.1%.

With UOB, you will lock your fund for 12 months at 3.75%. You can only place your fund for another FD after 12 months. For OCBC, you can use your fund for another FD after 9 months of maturity. If there is no promo FD after 9 months, you still ca go for affin 3.6% for a year and in this case you end up getting the same effective rate of 3.75%. But most probably there will be more promo FD in year end.
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haha, I also hoping got promotion throughout the year. But worst come to worst, we got Affin as back up smile.gif
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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 6 2012, 11:58 AM)
I definitely belong to this FDMCG - FD Musical Chair Gamers category too. Just that the existence of ASNB makes everything easier for me  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Jan 6 2012, 12:13 PM)
Aiyo..aunty sylille so "geng", one or 2 posts only, her standard of language immediately adopted by FD thread.

I like gark's " Opportunity Fund" too.  biggrin.gif
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well, her term Musical Chair is most appropriate, take current OCBC and UOB 3, 9 and 12 months tenure for example. Deposit in any of these three promos now and come next month HSBC got offer 8.88% for 1 year, we all loose out, but the one having his FD maturing next month will be laughing at us, hahaha.

I like gark's term "deploy", his FDs are on stand by where any of his squadron are ready to go (to be deployed) to seek some actions immediately and if necessary, reinforcements can be sent in and ETA all predetermined thumbup.gif

QUOTE(gchowyh @ Jan 6 2012, 12:53 PM)
Unfortunately, I do not see the outlook as too optimistic as besides UOB, Ambank also revised the 12 months FD from 3.3% to 3.2% in September.
Anyhow, let us check back after 3rd & 9th month.. tongue.gif
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Yah, and also Ambank got no offer for Top Rate FD for months. Just to add, Alliance also lowered their FD Gold rate for 12 months in October last year.

For discussion sake, if a bank wants new funds, the best time is to start their promo in April. Reason being:

1. Many people went for the SCB 5% in October (I was at a HLB branch that time and an uncle withdrew RM1M to go deposit at SCB, whereas me on the other hand, was depositing into HLB Junior FD to get 4.5% because I thought interest rate won't be going up this year )

2. And on 3 January 2012, the Priority Banking hall I was at was packed with many aunties and uncles waiting for their turn to withdraw their funds. Point is many shifted their funds to SCB in October and now that offer is offer, they are shifting it elsewhere.

3. Taking note that SCB offer was for only 3 months, now many would also move their funds to OCBC where the average 3 months FD comes out to be 4.3% (Edited) which is pretty good. So come April, there will be many people looking for places to shift their funds again.

Having said that, I think the best offer will be in the 4th quarter where the banks would compete for fresh funds to have more cash for their year end report.


QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Jan 6 2012, 01:21 PM)
I even made a table to compare the interest rates from various banks.
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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 6 2012, 01:28 PM)
Walao.. I am not freaking rich leh..  laugh.gif  It is just that I derive majority of my 'interest' from other source rather than FD, so my FD fund is just temporary and can change from time to time. The only difference is risk factor only as I prefer to take higher risk for higher gain, so moving around money from one bank to another is too troublesome.  tongue.gif But having said that, I do keep a large portion in FD to deploy when opportunities come.

So... I don;t belong to this FD club lar hor...  wink.gif
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see, you did conclude you are freaking rich, hahaha

you belong to the FRMONBWFDP club laugh.gif

Too bad that I can't be going for higher risk investment for at least a decade (that is I have yet to get lung or throat cancer and die) as one by one of my children are (or should be) entering college sad.gif I have allocate limited resources to deploy should the stock market take a big dive where my main target is MBB. So meantime, play musical chair and got to feel SCB VI, haha

QUOTE(turion64 @ Jan 6 2012, 02:10 PM)
Bro Gen-X,

The Bank Rakyat's Qiradth investment account is it a FD? Because it sounds too good to be true.
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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 6 2012, 04:17 PM)
I just called Bank Raykat an hour ago, they said they pay interest
based on monthly basis.

But it is not under PIDM
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Bro turion64, click here to read Bank Rakyat's history. It was under the supervision of BNM in 2002 and since then under numerous Ministries sweat.gif

BoomChaCha, the Bank Rakyat guy told you that deposits not insured by PIDM? I think it is safe lah since it is placed under government.

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QUOTE(tbheng @ Jan 6 2012, 05:31 PM)
At the end I loaded all my fund onto this 12-month GIA-i for 4% p.a. Save me some energy to stare at the musical chair for the next 12 months. Of course I open multiple contracts just in case I uplift some as opportunity fund, there are interests paid as long as it is over 3-month. If not because of the RM took the wrong form, I din even know this existed.

I went home to search for this promo, but cant find it online. I scanned the form here for those who are interested.  smile.gif
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Wow! Thank you for the pdf file. But, too long lah, too lazy to read, will just trust you on the 4% rate.

You know what, good bullet when they want to rectify my 5% thingy and maybe can insist that they instead backdate my early deposit to this GIA product.

aeiuo228, see, if wait 3 days, get 4% for a year.

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QUOTE(turion64 @ Jan 6 2012, 06:06 PM)
I also just went to the counter and the staff told me the interest rate is not fixed and it 'fluctuates'.

for example : if u sign up for 12 mth 4.01% tenure, it is not guaranteed 4.01%. and the staff told me it does fluctuates as much as 1%. but never more than that.

hence now i am considering OCBC promo.
i thought OCBC 3 mth tenure is 3.5% ? how does that work out to 4.225% ?
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Thanks for the info on the fluctuation. Second confirmation. Decided to remove Bank Rakyat's "fd" chart in 2nd Post and in my blog.

should be (5% + 3.6% )/2 = 4.3% blush.gif Sorry Bro.


QUOTE(tbheng @ Jan 6 2012, 05:43 PM)
The pdf is only 2 page mah... tongue.gif
In fact the focus is at the top of page 1 that says:
3-month 3.6%
9-month 3.8%
12-month 4.00%.
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Bro read that, is the clauses below that, haha

Also, I have posted below pic in my blog, if you are not agreeable to it, I will remove it. 1st post too.
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QUOTE(turion64 @ Jan 7 2012, 03:58 AM)
According to the teller, Bank Raykat's 'FD' profit is paid monthly.
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QUOTE(turion64 @ Jan 7 2012, 04:34 AM)
Oh. I will consider try small sum on this product.
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The monthly interest payment is applicable for the 12 months tenure?

If you do try them out, please update us on the product.

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 7 2012, 04:35 AM)
According to the teller, Bank Raykat's 'FD' profit is paid monthly.

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Once again, 12 months? If yes, I should drop by and check it out myself.

QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 7 2012, 03:16 AM)
It is a bit tired for me to look for other options once my FD is matured.

Everybody is Kia-si.

We understand no risk no gain, it depends on how do we make a brave decision.

What do you think about MBSB?

Do you have any ideas about the strengths and weakness in between Bank Rakyat and MBSB?
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Firstly, most humans are Kiasi but not everyone is Kiasu. tongue.gif

haha, we are depositing into FD because we are not risk takers.

As for MBSB:

In my opinion, 5 years is a long time, (unless FD rate was like the last time when it was 14% or so), you'll never know what will happen. MBSB deposits are not insured by PIDM right.

MBSB is a listed company, looks like last 2 years were good years for them. You can get their announcements here, take a look at 4th quarter 2009. And there was a right issue too in 2011. And if you go read the annual reports (from MBSB website), they were loosing money up to 2003.

If you read the 2009 Annual Report (link to their past annual report are available at their website), there is a chart showing that their profit have been on the increase since 2005. And in 2009, they had a new CEO who has been concentrating on personal finance.

Anyway, go google MBSB NPL and MBSB rights issue for some weekend reading.

And guess who is the major shareholder of MBSB? It is EPF. So I guess your money should be save with MBSB as I don't think the government will allow MBSB to collapse.
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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 7 2012, 04:05 PM)
What I meant by take risk was:
I am considering to commit for 5 years tenure, this is my thought:
(1) if the average interest rate maintains not more than 4.7% in next 5 years, then I win and earn extra interest;
(2) contrary, if the average interest rate is more than 4.7% in next 5 years, then I lose and earn less interest.


EPF is holding 26% shares of MBSB
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hahaha, is like a game isn't it? You won't know the results until the time comes.

But I will put it this way:

(1) if MBSB don't collapse, you'll earn 4.7% for the next 5 years
(2) if MBSB collapse, you may not even get your principal back sweat.gif

last Annual Report as of Feb 2011, EPF holds 66.31% click here. Where you get info 26%?


QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Jan 7 2012, 05:45 PM)
I heard 3.85% FD promo for 12 months from HLB is no longer available since
after yesterday (Friday, 6 Jan 2012), they said they have achieved their target..
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I was told only for their GIA 3.95% Promo where one only needs to deposit RM5K into Current Account offered to PB customers that hit target (and not non Islamic 12 months Promo where one needs to deposit RM20 minimum into CASA).

anyway, check it out
http://www.hlisb.com.my/promo/gia_191211/index.htm

and OCBC GIA promo still better at 4%

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