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 Nokia N9 - V02 - [Fluidity King For Nokia], Let~~~ SWIPE~~~ all~~~ the~~~ way~~~

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post Nov 14 2011, 11:07 PM

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mine now in power saving mode @ 30% . Haha i use my ipad most of the time so my mobile phone usually no problem lasting a day.
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post Nov 14 2011, 11:11 PM

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Wanna do another full test tomorrow to reconfirm my finding..hahaha

Phone still survive..no power saving and connected to wifi with push email
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post Nov 15 2011, 12:25 AM

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at this moment battery still got 20% heavy surfing and facebook.



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post Nov 15 2011, 01:13 AM

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how to update to pr1.1?
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post Nov 15 2011, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(arsaa @ Nov 14 2011, 11:11 PM)
Wanna do another full test tomorrow to reconfirm my finding..hahaha

Phone still survive..no power saving and connected to wifi with push email
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So are you saying the battery has improved with PR1.1 from your first test?
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My test definately improved alot.
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post Nov 15 2011, 09:38 AM

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My long winded impressions & review:
http://214impressions.blogspot.com/2011/10...mpressions.html
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post Nov 15 2011, 09:45 AM

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Where to find compas application? Anyone knows?
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Has anybody noticed whether the font size for sms messages has been enlarged in PR1.1?
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post Nov 15 2011, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 15 2011, 09:49 AM)
Has anybody noticed whether the font size for sms messages has been enlarged in PR1.1?
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yea, it is A LOT larger now :/ don't really like it but bearable, still hopes that there's a switch tho...
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post Nov 15 2011, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 15 2011, 09:38 AM)
very detailed review. good job!! rclxms.gif

fyi, there is a FM Receiver h/w in Nokia N9..
just that there is no software to support it..

http://techprolonged.com/index.php/2011/10...r-nokia-n9n950/ smile.gif
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QUOTE(Upsilon @ Nov 15 2011, 10:01 AM)
yea, it is A LOT larger now :/ don't really like it but bearable, still hopes that there's a switch tho...
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Maybe we can tweak/customize it; For maemo5, it's HTML, CSS, JavaScript based, we customized the Conversations look and feel to our preference.


Added on November 15, 2011, 10:25 am
QUOTE(dec12 @ Nov 15 2011, 10:20 AM)
very detailed review. good job!! rclxms.gif

fyi, there is a FM Receiver h/w in Nokia N9..
just that there is no software to support it..

http://techprolonged.com/index.php/2011/10...r-nokia-n9n950/  smile.gif
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Thanks~

Hardware available is good, software can be developed anytime for it. For the FM Transmitter, heard there is some issue with it tough, not really sure, I think Jeff (Upsilon) knows more.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 15 2011, 09:38 AM)
Good job Andy. Took me a while to read it. Good enough to publish in a mag.

My comments:
1. Mono speaker isn't such a disadvantage. We shouldn't assume straightaway that mono=poor sound compared to stereo. Mono will also give you the full range of sounds except that it seems to come from one point while for stereo the various instrument sounds are spread out between the speakers. For a phone body stereo separation is limited due to the close position of speakers so it is more or less a gimmick.

2. Users have reported that the wi-fi sensitivity is improved with PR 1.1.

3. There is already a FM player app.

4. HDMI and USB on the go - most users won't miss them.

5. Adobe has announced it will stop developing flash player for mobile so it is likely to fade in importance while HTML5 may rise.


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QUOTE(Upsilon @ Nov 15 2011, 10:01 AM)
yea, it is A LOT larger now :/ don't really like it but bearable, still hopes that there's a switch tho...
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Here's a way you can change font size but it's not easy.
http://nokiamobileblog.com/how-to-increase...-your-nokia-n9/
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 15 2011, 08:28 AM)
So are you saying the battery has improved with PR1.1 from your first test?
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yes.....definately a significant improvement!


Added on November 15, 2011, 11:12 amis the PR1.1 update still available over NSU? today I tried to re-install PR1.1 but somehow the update is no more there....

can anybody check?

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post Nov 15 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 15 2011, 10:21 AM)
Maybe we can tweak/customize it; For maemo5, it's HTML, CSS, JavaScript based, we customized the Conversations look and feel to our preference.


Added on November 15, 2011, 10:25 am

Thanks~

Hardware available is good, software can be developed anytime for it. For the FM Transmitter, heard there is some issue with it tough, not really sure, I think Jeff (Upsilon) knows more.
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yea, the messenger app's font-size can be changed by modifying the right CSS file, but will just stick with the current one~

don't know much about the software development possibilities on N9 as I don't know much about Qt (yet). However, there are numerous forum posts saying that the possibility of getting FMTX to work is kinda low as there's no antenna attached to the tx component (??? however, there have been contradicting claims but I don't remember where they are now...). Therefore even if an app is written for it, but it would be pretty much useless given the short reception range due to the absence of antenna. There are people who are trying to get this done, so I guess we can just wait for the final outcome. For the FMRX part, it is still very much a hack, but an app is already made, very much a proof-of-concept prototype quality, so YMMV. <http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902> (I think this has been posted before)


Added on November 15, 2011, 11:19 am
QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 15 2011, 10:54 AM)
Here's a way you can change font size but it's not easy.
http://nokiamobileblog.com/how-to-increase...-your-nokia-n9/
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I know it is possible, but just don't feel comfortable messing with the system files. It would be better if it is possible to overwrite the appearance settings by having those files in my home folder, like a typical linux desktop system. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Upsilon @ Nov 15 2011, 11:15 AM)
I know it is possible, but just don't feel comfortable messing with the system files. It would be better if it is possible to overwrite the appearance settings by having those files in my home folder, like a typical linux desktop system. smile.gif
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Font size can be changed in themes so hope someone comes out with some themes with different font sizes.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Nov 15 2011, 01:13 AM)
how to update to pr1.1?
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u can use nokia software updater(nsu) to update ur phone.but the file size are approximately 1gb,several times larger than OTA version which is only 200mb.it took me almost 3hours to finished downoading and installing the update due to slow internet connection.but its worth to give a try.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Nov 15 2011, 10:27 AM)
Good job Andy. Took me a while to read it. Good enough to publish in a mag.

My comments:
1. Mono speaker isn't such a disadvantage. We shouldn't assume straightaway that mono=poor sound compared to stereo. Mono will also give you the full range of sounds except that it seems to come from one point while for stereo the various instrument sounds are spread out between the speakers. For a phone body stereo separation is limited due to the close position of speakers so it is more or less a gimmick. 

2. Users have reported that the wi-fi sensitivity is improved with PR 1.1.

3. There is already a FM player app.

4. HDMI and USB on the go - most users won't miss them.

5. Adobe has announced it will stop developing flash player for mobile so it is likely to fade in importance while HTML5 may rise.
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Thanks~

Yea, I know there's good quality mono speakers, but if it comes in stereo, it'll be even better. One reason I stress this is because, if they only give mono, then you can't get stereo. But if they give stereo, that's a different story. Personally, I believe it really up to Nokia whether they want to give or not. One major reason there was once many people give up on Nokia and jump to SE is because of the sound quality, particularly speaker.
After that, it seems Nokia realized and emphasize on sound quality and provide stereo speaker, loud and clear. But suddenly, it goes back again;
For this N9, it's hard to deny it's not influence by iPhone... no Flash, no proper homescreen, mono speaker, micro SIM, etc. If it's a Maemo successor, it should have those that Maemo were proud of, sadly, it's not.

Lastly, in public perception, when they see one speaker or mono, how will they think? Even if the mono speaker is of HIGH quality VS a low quality stereo speaker; What people see is 1 vs 2.
Anyway, with mono speaker, you can't actually produce a true stereo output right? I'm no audio expert, but when I hear it, even it sound good, there's just something missing, just like when you plugin those small mini speaker which come in 1 unit (or say Studio Monitors, which usually sold per unit), you'll need 2 unit for true stereo output, the sound when you plug in 1 vs 2 unit, is just different.
What the Fruit company used to give for the reason is, to use the headset for music listening, which I've explain in the review, it's not just about that...

Add on:
As for Flash, I've commented on LowYat blog; It doesn't matter if Flash is dead, because it doesn't mean this technology is no longer use. There're still a lot of websites which uses Flash, and there's no guarantee nobody will not use it anymore. UNLESS, the Flash is a service, once it stop, everything is gone and no longer available, but it's not, it's a technology; There's also many Flash apps and games.
So it's not about dead or not dead, it's about whether they willing to give or not give, in this case, pay for the license? Initially, there was plans for MeeGo, but I guess Nokia decided not to proceed? Just my guess.

Anyway, the best would be a perfect transition between Flash and HTML5; That said, the user shouldn't even need to concern if it's Flash or HTML5, the device should provide support for both, and the transition shouldn't even be of a concern to the user. Just like apps, who care if it's developed with java, C, VB, etc? For the user, they just want the app to run, as for browsing, they just want the website to work properly as it should, not suddenly, this part not working, why am I not seeing this? etc.


QUOTE(Upsilon @ Nov 15 2011, 11:15 AM)
yea, the messenger app's font-size can be changed by modifying the right CSS file, but will just stick with the current one~
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For Maemo, we don't really modify the CSS file, we add our own css class, then we refer to the class for our own formatting. Basically original Maemo Conversations is very old fashioned, we modify it to more modernized.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Nov 15 2011, 11:58 AM
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Anyone experience error message while trying to ready you email? “Cant't get your message ”

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