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 Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??

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ironman16
post Oct 7 2020, 07:31 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 07:20 AM)
You got those two?
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No, i got moderate only, but normally i seldom enter same fund house twice for prs. This year just enter am REITs.
I flip2 n just realise this affin growth not bad.
Just recommend only. Whether wan or not is up to him
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post Oct 7 2020, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 07:36 AM)
Affin PRS Growth Fund is feeding mainly into Affin Hwang Select Asia (ex Japan) Opportunity Fund MYR
Affin PRS Moderate Fund is feeding mainly into Affin Hwang Select Asia Pacific (ex Japan) Balanced Fund MYR

Given recent stealth performance of both funds capturing upside opportunity in Greater China region, no doubt that both PRS funds are gaining too.
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Waseh, ada buat home work, ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
U got any recommendations?
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post Oct 7 2020, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 08:11 AM)
I'm also holding Affin PRS Moderate Fund.

I'm only investing into existing funds; not employing your strategy of 1 new PRS fund per calendar year. sweat.gif
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No right or wrong, up to us nia.
I just dun wan pay the rm8 to fund house nia. ๐Ÿ˜œ
Haven't decide next year what fund ๐Ÿ˜…
May b pay rm8 go affin if no choice.
Last time i hampir wanna gi kenanga oledi.
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post Oct 7 2020, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 08:24 AM)
I used to have Kenanga OnePRS Growth Fund.
But I switched it to Kenanga Shariah OnePRS Conservative Fund due to lack confidence for Malaysian equity in coming months. laugh.gif
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So, u pay rm25 to ppa for switching?
What fund u still holding?
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post Oct 7 2020, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 08:27 AM)
Switching funds between same PRS provider is free.
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Bukan got rm25 switching fee???
If like this can consider switching moderate to growth

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post Oct 7 2020, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Oct 7 2020, 09:08 AM)
Me too, have been keeping with this fund for 3 years consecutively for tax relieve purposes. 3 years with average total returns of 15%, not bad.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 09:14 AM)
My average annualized return is only 4% with total return over the course is 30%
Well, I don't expect PRS fund to fly.
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Share mine
Affin moderate IRR 4.95% ROI 16.91% since 2017
Principal asiapac IRR 4.21% ROI 10.39% since 2018
Am REITs IRR 5.74% ROI 0.7% just enter a few month, still dca

Overall prs portfolio is IRR 4.68% ROI 11.25%

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post Oct 7 2020, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 09:01 AM)
I made two switches this year at FSM platform.
No fee incurred.

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Can I switch my PRS funds? Can I switch my PRS funds to a different fund house?

Yes, you can switch within same fund house and between different fund houses. You may login into your investment account and click on Funds >> Transactions >> Sell/Switch to execute the switching transaction.

There is no switching fee and also no restriction to the number of switching transactions EXCEPT for the fund houses below:
โ€ขCIMB Principal Asset Management - 12 times* free switch per calendar year
โ€ขManulife Asset Management Services Berhad - 12 times free switch per calendar year
*one time switching per month
However, for switching of PRS funds between different fund houses, you are subjected to the conditions below:
1. Transfers are permitted once a calendar year for each PRS Provider;
2. The transfer is only allowed after one year from the first subscription date;
3. There is sufficient units in the fund(s);
4. Each transfer request is only between two PRS Providers; and
5. All accrued benefits to be transferred from a particular fund must be transferred correspondingly to one other fund managed by the Transferee Provider.

Please be advised that you will need to pay a PPA transfer fee of MYR 25.00 per request.

so, what is the highligthed sentence means??? rclxub.gif
means for different fund house??? shocking.gif

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post Oct 7 2020, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 7 2020, 09:49 AM)
Switching and Transfer are not same.

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https://www.ppa.my/prs-providers/kenangainvestors/
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Ok, clear oledi, thanks
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post Oct 7 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Oct 7 2020, 02:32 PM)
For AmReit I have to go to Ambank personally to buy the first time right?  With Covid-19 and many working from home, will REITs produce similar results in the next few years?  Whats your thoughts?
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I buy through FSM online.
Now Reits low, hope it will pick in 10 years
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post Oct 7 2020, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Oct 7 2020, 03:26 PM)
WOW ...10 yrs...
some may ask...will you be missing the opportunity cost?
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๐Ÿ˜…, nvm, later switch
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post Oct 7 2020, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Oct 7 2020, 04:29 PM)
I think for REIT, can consider Manulife Shariah PRS Global REIT fund class C also? More on US equity.
Or Manulife PRS Asia Pacific reit fund.

If not wrong all the while Manulife APAC reit fund outperform Am APAC REIT.
But these 2 Manulife PRS fund l canโ€™t find from FSM, only saw at eUT
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Thanks for the info. But i only got FSM acc
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post Oct 12 2020, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Oct 12 2020, 06:22 PM)
Rm8 annual fee per fund house is chargeable even if you didnโ€™t invest for that year?
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If u top up ur existing prs fund, u have to pay rm8 foe each of ur fund houae, eg, top up prs fund house A n B this year, so u have to pay rm8 x 2.
Thats why i try to find new prs fund each year to avoid this rm8. Seen like next year no choice oledi

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post Oct 12 2020, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Oct 12 2020, 06:48 PM)
Sorry you mean existing or new fund house also have to pay RM8 if you top up?
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Existing prs u top up baru kena rm8.
New prs that u subscribe is free for first year.
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post Oct 12 2020, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Oct 12 2020, 07:35 PM)
Free for first year but subsequent year will charge rm8/year?
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Ya, if u top up again
Let said last year i have affin prs moderate, i free for the rm8 last year.
If this year i top again same prs (affin prs moderate), so i have to pay rm8 for this year.
If i buy others prs (let say AmReit), so i dun need to pay this rm8.
This rm8 is pay to prs fund house(affin), not ppa

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post Oct 12 2020, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 12 2020, 08:16 PM)
I thought PPA is the one who charges this RM 8 annual fee.
PRS provider is just assisting PPA to collect the fee.
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Ya ka, may b i wrong, i go Google.
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post Oct 12 2020, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 12 2020, 08:18 PM)
ya ....... sweat.gif .........i didnt read further, just know have to pay RM8....... tongue.gif

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post Oct 12 2020, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Oct 12 2020, 08:23 PM)
Ooh I see.

So this RM8 is like a annual sales charge, but first year charge for each fund is waived.
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just like @GrumpyNooby mention, collect by fund house for PPA as an annual fee nod.gif
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post Oct 12 2020, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Oct 12 2020, 08:38 PM)
If top up 3k PRS, the rm8 annual fee is just 0.3%.. isnโ€™t the sales charge for monthly DCA higher than this?
I think should choose based on the fund that has good performance record and suits the investor.. Choose wrong fund might loses much more than rm8 per year
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i choose the good fund that not need to pay rm8, if no choice baru bayar rm8.... biggrin.gif......FSM no sales charge

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post Oct 12 2020, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 12 2020, 08:43 PM)
I believe this is unforeseeable loophole.
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ya, i agree with u

just hoping the prs fund that i choose will perform well in future... thumbup.gif
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post Oct 24 2020, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(TechnoG @ Oct 24 2020, 09:49 AM)
Yeah the ex japan equity fund form Principal.

May I know where do I find the comprehensive list for the eligible funds? I'm basing the selection off the PPA website:
https://www.ppa.my/prs-providers/list-of-scheme-funds/
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try this brows.gif include Public thumbsup.gif

http://gllt.morningstar.com/e6qvxuu98r/fun...B&tab=ShortTerm

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