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ironman16
post Jul 26 2020, 07:24 AM

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QUOTE(runeguy @ Jul 26 2020, 01:49 AM)
Cz i saw can enroll ourselves online, easier . No need to go through an agent
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Go through FSM oso 0% sales charge. Unless u compare with PM n bank πŸ˜…
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post Jul 27 2020, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(familyfirst @ Jul 27 2020, 10:53 AM)
So am I correct to say that for the first time buying a particular fund, we have to go thru either FSM or the bank to purchase it and then pay a sales fee if any.  And for subsequent years top-up via PPA online, we only pay a fee to PPA and nothing to the fund/bank?  Thanks.
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For all online applications through PRS Online Enrolment, the PPA account opening fee of RM10.00 shall be waived till further notice. For applicants age 30 and below who perform self-enrolment, PRS Providers’ sales charge will be at 0%

Better through PPA
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post Jul 27 2020, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jul 27 2020, 01:04 PM)
i still can't buy new funds. only for new user?
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Last time when u enroll through ppa, did u buy prs fund?
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post Jul 27 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jul 27 2020, 03:49 PM)
i enrolled through FSM
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Means u want buy new prs fund through ppa website?
I think can't, must through prs providers πŸ€”πŸ€”πŸ€”
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post Aug 2 2020, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(onthefly @ Aug 2 2020, 12:33 AM)
seem like 'better' provider have highest sales charge of 3%
is it still okay to go with provider with 3% in the long run?
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I don't agree.
Their PRS fund beat others since 2019 only, b4 that..... πŸ˜…
I agree with the view of above, long run n one time only is ok, but if every year, make sure every year at least 3% return πŸ˜‚


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post Aug 4 2020, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Aug 4 2020, 10:27 AM)
if every year 3% return only also just breakeven, if this goes on in the long run, you're better off putting your money in FD too.
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That's why i said at least 3%, breakeven only n no loss.
I seldom put in FD, most is FI n equity fund, MM only for 😁
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post Aug 4 2020, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Aug 4 2020, 10:39 AM)
ok fine, got a point. that one immediately got some few hundred bucks back in cash.

but don't forget also, you cannot withdraw the money until you're 55.

so assuming if the tax relief thing is only until 2020 and the gomen didnt extend the tax relief perk.

then your money is stuck in there for another dunno how many years.

let's throw in a scenario, if you're 30 this year and you can still qualify for the tax relief for the next 2 years.

assuming RM3k x 24% tax savings = RM720 per year x 2 = RM1440 for the next 2 years and no more after that.

then assume your fund is stuck inside until you're 55, means 55 - 32 = another 23 years to go.

assuming the fund only make 3%, or 4% which means you stand to gain 1% p.a. for the next 23 years.

wouldn't you be better off in the long run until 55, having your money in the FD with compounding effect than the tax savings + PRS?
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post Aug 11 2020, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Aug 11 2020, 04:10 PM)
i think i will continue, for i am now >55 yrs old.
if i buy CIMB Asia Pac PRS i pay 0%SC
if i buy CIMB Asia Pac ut i pay X.xx% SC
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post Sep 25 2020, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(teridoz23 @ Sep 25 2020, 02:01 PM)
so still fsm the best for prs?
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Up to u just like the Grumpy mention.
I will say yes,
but some body still prefer bank platforms due to promotion or etc.
Some will said PM better bcoz of recently performance is better.

Is ur money, as long as u happy 😁😁😁😁😁
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post Sep 25 2020, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Sep 25 2020, 05:29 PM)
Anyone here DCA your PRS fund, eg 500 per 2 months, Or most people lump sum during red?
Previously I always lump sum buy 3000 to prsΒ  in December
This year in this volatile market I plan to buy 1k each in the next three months..
any suggestion?
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I DCA a few months one shot, bcoz bullet no enough.
I in if there is a dip, no matter the lowest or not.
PRS can't withdraw until u pension. So just believe it will up in long term.
If u think market will volatile, just DCA lo,

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post Sep 25 2020, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Sep 25 2020, 06:32 PM)
The only reason I haven’t DCA is because I’m waiting for FSM lump sum promotion for PRS during year end.
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i dont wan wait liao, takut i belanja that money brows.gif
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post Sep 26 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(teridoz23 @ Sep 26 2020, 11:32 AM)
thanks for your reply but now performance is good is it the right time to buy?
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If u can timing the market, buy at the lowest point. 😁😁😁
If u can't timing the market, just like me lo, dca or if got dip like march, in again.

Although PM recently is good but i won't consider bcoz the performance is only recently n come with sales charge oso, unless u can get the 0% sales charge for PRS 😁😁

Even u can timing the market but prs is for long term, like me still got almost 20 years to go, sure got up down up down ma. Tak akan when up i said my prs is pro n good, n down i sumpah itu prs providers n switch??
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post Sep 26 2020, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Sep 26 2020, 02:16 PM)
Only good recently but falls back to red sea later how?  hmm.gif
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So my points is not need timing market, choose the prs fund that i believe will up up in long term without sales charge, dumb 3k. Thats all

Sekali sekala come back n see see/watch watch, hopefully not need to switch until i retire 😁😁😁
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post Sep 30 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(teridoz23 @ Sep 30 2020, 09:54 AM)
the 0 charge usually somewhere available end of the year...hopefully they do it soon
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U. Mean public mutual got 0% sales charge offer at year end?
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post Oct 1 2020, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(neo_6053 @ Oct 1 2020, 11:01 AM)
I saw these 2 are performing quite well, any comment? worth investing?
AmPRS - Islamic Equity Fund - Class D
AmPRS - Islamic Balanced Fund - Class D
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See long term, not recently 0
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post Oct 1 2020, 03:24 PM

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I don't know how u ppl choose.
I definitely will choose the fund with consistent return in each calendar year. Not the highest nvm but consistently give me better return. I don't like low performance previous year but suddenly spike high fund.

### i don't choose Conservative fund. Prefer growth /moderate /equity.

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post Oct 1 2020, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 1 2020, 03:27 PM)
You should share which you bought in your PRS portfolio.
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I ever buy affin prs moderate bcoz follow recommendations xuzen.

Then, i buy principal prs asia pac dyna

This year i buy am REIT prs (hope I'm not regret, now low buy, hope it up when i reach 60. I i didn't buy REIT in my portfolio)
Every year buy new one
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post Oct 1 2020, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 1 2020, 05:35 PM)
Buy and hold one PRS fund only. Others use unit trust or stashaway.
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I buy different fund house bcoz dont wan pay rm8 😁😁😁
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post Oct 7 2020, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(proJay @ Oct 7 2020, 01:19 AM)
Thank you all for your prompt reply to my inquiry.
I will invest PRS because of tax relief and invest in the right fund to get better and make sure it's secure return.
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Can consider affin growth n moderate, no bad

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