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ironman16
post Nov 17 2020, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 17 2020, 02:02 PM)
Maybe I read it wrongly but let me check again.
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PRS IS 0% sales charge, equity UT is 1.5% sales charge.
First time purchase PRS must pay rm10 to open acc, all ppl same
PPA charge rm0. 50 for what?

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post Nov 17 2020, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 17 2020, 02:59 PM)
For top up the PRS amount..
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FSM free of charge 😁😁😁

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post Nov 17 2020, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(RoofTopPrince @ Nov 17 2020, 03:05 PM)
Kena liao, next round should go for FSM
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But u purchase this PRS fund through PPA, can't top up through FSM. Just continues until 3k la this year.
Next year try FSM, but if top up same fund house got rm8 charge, i normally buy different fund house. But got ppl top up the same fund house n pay rm8 bcoz confident with the fund.

Its up to u. Do some homework first b4 purchase. Don't top up or buy last minute, too rush.

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post Nov 17 2020, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Nov 17 2020, 03:18 PM)
Ironman, I will like to ask about that Manulife PRS APAC Reit ,
which is not available on FSM; 3% sales charge from Manulife itself; and eUT straight away ignore my email.
Is this buyable from PPA, if so, how much the sales charge?
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U ask wrong ppl la, i only buy am REITs.
U try exercise it at PPA website, see can purchase or not.
I only buy from FSM, dont want buy too many platforms, pening nanti

U buy is APAC? Not global REIT?
If through manulife is 3%

FSM mmg don't have this prs

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post Nov 17 2020, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Nov 17 2020, 03:18 PM)
Ironman, I will like to ask about that Manulife PRS APAC Reit ,
which is not available on FSM; 3% sales charge from Manulife itself; and eUT straight away ignore my email.
Is this buyable from PPA, if so, how much the sales charge?
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Buy online from eunitrust is 0%, just go for it.
I didn't purchase prs from ppa, so no clue, can wait others ppl reply u
Why need to wait eunitrust reply u? Straight away buy nia

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post Nov 17 2020, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(cklimm @ Nov 17 2020, 03:41 PM)
I need eUT to send me the opening forms in the 1st place, but since you have AMReit, is it good?
If there is a referral program, you can leave me your referral code.
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FSM referral? Not sure got or not 😁😁😁
AMReit starting is red, now starting green, i top during dip, now spare some wait dip again, if no dip sure dumb aje until 3k.
I start purchase early year n wait because volatile 😬😬😬
I buy just hoping future reits is good. Like gambling oledi.

But u can switch to others prs within same fund house la.

Wait eunitrust send u form? Bukan download sendiri?? Susah la mcm ini.

*** i go try at eunitrust, fuyoo, kena manual submission for PRS, tak bg form pun or may b i x ada account ?? sweat.gif

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post Nov 18 2020, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(kafechew @ Nov 18 2020, 12:31 AM)
Do you mean the PPA Annual Fee RM 8?
My understanding is the RM 8 was waived during the first year you invest PRS (opened a PPA account).
And you won't be charged RM 8 if you do not contribute a single cent to your existing PRS funds of different Providers.

Scenario 1: You're buying a new fund every year. You're not opening new account (Only one PPA account per person based on IC).
So, Buying a new fund after the first year, will still charge RM 8, right?

Scenario 2: You're buying and topup-ing 3 different funds from 2 different Providers.
You will be charged RM 8 x 2 = RM 16, right?

Scenario 3: You're buying and topup-ing 3 different funds from 3 different Providers.
You will be charged RM 8 x 3 = RM 24, right?

So, we should concentrate on one PRS provider per calendar year to avoid multiple PPA annual fee, regardless it is a topup or new fund.

Anyone can clarify this?

PS: FPX Fee RM 0.50 will be charged for each transaction via PRS Online. If you topup RM 100 for 30 times separately, you would have been charged RM 15 (0.5 x 30). So, better lump sum top-up RM 3000.50 in single transaction (RM 3000 will go to your fund and RM 0.50 is the FPX fee).
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Bingo, all scenarios correct. So i didn't top up through PPA, n buy from FSM only, i prefer 0% charge

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post Nov 18 2020, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(kafechew @ Nov 18 2020, 10:16 AM)
Thanks for your clarification.

Do FSM charge RM 0.50 per transaction for existing or new fund like PPA direct topup did?

I did have insurance and i-EPF (no longer now) through FSM, no the transaction charge.
But not sure about UT or PRS funds from FSM.
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Like above clarity, 0 cent. I prefer FSM especially purchase PRS.
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QUOTE(ggcyk @ Nov 18 2020, 10:59 AM)
Hi, just want to have clearer pictures on the RM8 annual fee...
What if this year I open a PPA account to invest in Fund A, then later by end of this year invest in Fund B (different provider)? Will I be charged RM8 for the second fund? or both Funds's annual fee will be waived?
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just like Grumpy said above, YES.
so just stick with one fund house only in each calendar year.... biggrin.gif

don't happy2 top up different fund house in that particular year...

like Grumpy said, RM8 was charged by PPA (but fund house help PPA collect)

tengok baik2 baru go....... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ggcyk @ Nov 18 2020, 11:15 AM)
Oh, so even if I register for the 1st time for PPA account, I will still be charged RM8 annual fee for only 1 fund? or only will double charge RM8 if I invest 2 or more funds?
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first year RM8 was waived for each fund house(wait Grumpy verified, brows.gif )

example,
this year i buy affin PRS moderate fund, rm8 waived
next year i buy principal PRS moderate fund, rm8 waived
coming year i buy again affin PRS Growth/ moderate fund, rm8 will be charge

if like u say:
first year open account n buy 2 different fund house PRS (let say affin moderate fund and principal moderate PRS fund, should b zero fee, its that ur question? sweat.gif )

user posted image

can read it, hope my understanding is ok.... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ggcyk @ Nov 18 2020, 03:11 PM)
Thank you for your input.
Yes. But when registering for PPA account, I can only choose 1 fund from 1 fund house, right?
Say, next month I decided to buy another fund from another fund house through FSM, will I be charged the RM8?
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Should b no charge if follow the sentence, try have a chat with CS FSM, sure can help u
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post Nov 19 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ggcyk @ Nov 19 2020, 10:23 AM)
FSM's reply as below:

Please be informed that PPA annual fee of RM8.00 will incur on your subsequent PRS investment (once per annum and per PRS Provider basis) if you top up into the same PRS fund on the following year.

For example, if you have purchased Affin Hwang PRS Growth Fund this year (2020), and if you top up into the same PRS fund or purchase a new PRS fund under the same provider (Affin Hwang) on 2021 you will need to pay RM8 for the annual fee. However, if you chose to purchase different PRS fund under different provider you will not require to pay for the annual fees.
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Since u oledi purchase through PPA, just accumulate n top up one shot n pay 50 cent.
Next year baru try others fund through FSM, jangan bazir 😝😝😝😝

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post Nov 19 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(ggcyk @ Nov 19 2020, 12:42 PM)
FSM's reply based on above scenario:

Please be informed that there is no annual fee (RM8) incur to you if you top up into the same PRS fund or purchase a new PRS fund (either with Affin Hwang or different PRS provider) in the same year (2020).
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If u top up same fund house on different platforms its ok, but if difference fund house oledi waste
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aiyoh, too late nampak this AmPRS - Asia Pacific REITs - Class D dip lagi.....4.06pm oledi
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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Nov 20 2020, 04:43 PM)
You plan to buy?
Most hk and US reit stock price up last 2 weeks maybe due to vaccine good news, should be a minor correction.I am waiting next week to top up manulife reit.
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i awal2 dah in lo......dip i top, dip i top......almost reach 3k......wait the coming month, if dip, i top habis n tutup kedai liao....C U next year

wanna settle b4 15 dec.....last minit punya kerja nanti rush sangat

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Nov 20 2020, 04:51 PM)
Bought in a bit CIMB AAXJ at RM0.9 in April, thought it will dip lower.

Nope, its now RM1.2. Cry.
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what is CIMB AAXJ ??? ETF??


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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 20 2020, 04:52 PM)
Should be Principal PRS Plus Asia ex Japan Fund.
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AAXJ - iShares MSCI All Country Asia ex Japan ETF

mcm bukan le
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 20 2020, 04:56 PM)
I monitor that fund NAV on daily basis.
Now is hovering at 1.2xxx
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ATH oledi ??? or still up up?
u got buy?

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 20 2020, 05:04 PM)
ATH at 11/9/2020 -1.2228
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mcm tengah rally lagi o......tak turun....u wanna buy ha?
i 2 year b4 oledi buy, rally pun x apa bruce.gif

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 20 2020, 05:06 PM)
This year I topped up into Kenanga PRS fund.
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Growth fund?
Last time in my shortlist, but when itu kenanga growth pancit sikit, kick oledi. Still figure next year go in which???? 😁😁😁😁

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