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post May 16 2021, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 16 2021, 12:35 PM)
Full name, IC number.
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post May 16 2021, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(datolee32 @ May 16 2021, 01:44 PM)
I see, thanks. Can we DCA PRS fund? Lets say RM 100 weekly until RM 3,000.
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just like bro Ram said , yes

i use DCA since the first time in PRS until now....

but my method diff a bit than bro Ram.

i DCA monthly about 150, others 100 i parking in CMF2......if the dip come i will aggressively topping...

if come again , i top again......until i reach 3k....then sayonara........jumpa lagi tahun depan.

i will make sure my PRS finish topping by end of November, i dun like last minute topping.... cool2.gif

### normally i will making my first transaction for PRS early year (january) with 50 only.....when my acc successfully create , i wait the timing/chances...... cool2.gif

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post May 16 2021, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ May 16 2021, 02:16 PM)
The PRS account must create a separate account for each Fund house? kind of thought it would just be one account..
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sorry, my bad.

just one .....bcoz i buy in different PRS.....so i gonna mail the doc to FSM first (bcoz im from the state that ppl live on the tree, we dun have transport but we use croc whistling.gif )

if u ppl stick with one PRS, sure any time can buy...... laugh.gif

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post May 16 2021, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(thecurious @ May 16 2021, 02:27 PM)
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oh thanks thanks, so under FSM can save effort.

Maybe should have open through FSM too lol

went direct to fund house waiting more than 2 weeks still no update.
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go with FSM oso same , just the middle man is FSM..... cool2.gif

unless u wan public punya .....
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post May 17 2021, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(datolee32 @ May 17 2021, 11:39 PM)
Thanks for sifu's advise!
When account successfully create? U mean different fund house? If I purchase Fund A, next year I continue top up Fund A, I don't need create again right?
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post May 27 2021, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(superinvestor @ May 27 2021, 05:38 PM)
i click enrolled for the second time and get new email , this time it works. i think it was system error during the first trial.

May i ask is it the correct steps to enroll to PRS? without creating an account? because it direct me to make payment already.

i did not create any username and password, how do i come back to check my application or money ?

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sorry , just curious....

why u wanna pay the administration fee (rm0.5 each time u top through PPA) when u can get rm0 administration fee (through others platfrom) ? hmm.gif

just wanna make sure u know what u doing aje whistling.gif

Ur steps should b correct, account PPA with create after u purchase the prs fund. PPA only help u redirect to prs fund provider aje, just like fsm do.

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post May 27 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(superinvestor @ May 27 2021, 06:28 PM)
Can you introduce me where else I can enroll the PRS ? Besides FSM?
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Eunittrust,

Why don't wan fsm? 🤔

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QUOTE(christeen @ May 27 2021, 11:24 PM)
Besides the administration fee (RM0.50), any other advantages of top up through FSM over PPA?
If same fund bought through PPA, FSM or Eunittrust, will receive separate statement or just one statement directly from PRS provider?
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if u wanna use PPA to buy PRS, make sure u top 3k in one shot, bcoz pay rm0.5 one time only....

for me.....buy through PPA/FSM/Eunitrust/ ......all the same (bcoz oso get ur PPA account number) , they r middle man (agent) ....when u retired oledi, make sure find back the correcct agent (middle man)........

If same fund bought through PPA, FSM or Eunittrust, will receive separate statement or just one statement directly from PRS provider?
i not sure this situation ...bcoz i only buy from FSM ......easy for me when i'm retire later.....

every time when i buy PRS, i will get transaction receipt from FSM, but cant use it as proof for LHDN in the coming year (some taiko mention in this forum).
But i will receive statement from Fund Provider at year end/ early year in the coming year (i will kepp it for LHDN purpose )

so , may b (i just said may b) u will receive diff transaction receipt from middle man BUT one statement only form ur fund house provider ..... hmm.gif
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post May 28 2021, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(superinvestor @ May 28 2021, 03:36 PM)
because open account need RM10. and annual fee need Rm8. mahal  blush.gif
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Mana2 tempat u open acc oso same. Rm 8 waive for first year each fund house
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post May 28 2021, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 28 2021, 09:16 PM)
if believe that the historical trend are repeatable....
can try seek out those funds that performed well during the 1st lockdown as in Mar~Arp 2020??
hmm.gif any funds that performed during the last lockdown?
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last year my Public mutual mcm makan viagra.....u wan try ? brows.gif
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post May 28 2021, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 28 2021, 09:54 PM)
any particular?
maybe from there can see the equivalent funds in FSM? for lower cost?
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last year my public fund which rally after covid is Msia based punya (i flip2 the fund factsheet bcoz got glove stock)...... hmm.gif

this year still wanna bet on it ? brows.gif

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 28 2021, 10:08 PM)
this time round...i don't think glove stocks will have BIG rally....cos, during that time....the whole world are chasing for medical gloves during the start of pandemic during Mar period....
now, the demand should have stabilized and china should also be producing gloves too...

i would try to see any funds that performed last time without focusing too much on GLOVES, HEALTHCARE, TECHNOLOGY, AI etc...
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hope my United Msia still rally ..... whistling.gif
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post May 28 2021, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 28 2021, 10:40 PM)
fund from PM?
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no la.....FSM fund...

my public mutual mostly is regional UT.....not need switching too much....let it auto pilot aje..... nod.gif
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post Jul 3 2021, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(Aghi @ Jul 2 2021, 09:44 PM)
Hi All, need a clarification.
PPA have zero sales charge for under 30 years old and rm10 fee waived.
If i open there and then when im 31, can i top up using fsm/eunitrust ? (bcos i guess after 30, no more zero sc by PPA)
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Mostly prs is 0% sales charge, except public.
Last time top through ppa gonna charge rm1/transaction.

If they waive u rm10 still worth lt
Theoretical, after u get ur ppa number, u go mana2 tempat buy oso can.

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post Jul 3 2021, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(Aghi @ Jul 3 2021, 02:13 AM)
Now only rm0.50 per transaction.
That's why I want to use ppa instead of fsm for the RM10.
So if already have the ppa number then the next time if open in fsm no need to pay the rm 10?
Yea but ppa have RM10 waive and got a lucky draw promotion going on. So maybe until 30 will use this.
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Rm10 is for account opening, since if u oledi got ppa account, I think should b not need. Try msg fsm ask about this Rm10 matter, they know better than me.
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QUOTE(daniellehu @ Jul 4 2021, 11:27 PM)
I have invested some of my money in Public Mutual PRS funds but wouldl like to further diversify my investment portfolio other than investing in my existing fund management company. Anyone has any good experience in PRS fund investment over the past few years? My thanks in advance!
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why dun try flip2 this choices:

Principal PRS Plus Asia Pac Ex Jpn Eq A
Affin Hwang PRS Growth

https://www.ppa.my/prs-providers/prs-funds-information/
https://www.ppa.my/wp-content/uploads/2021/...e_May2021v2.pdf

kasi u link, can do research a bit..... cool2.gif


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post Jul 5 2021, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(daniellehu @ Jul 4 2021, 11:58 PM)
Appreciated it, IM16. Shall look into this!
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16? U just too young la..... Not worth for the prs I think.

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 5 2021, 07:57 PM)
she is referring to you IronMman16 lah
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shocking.gif .......i though he mention he only 16 bcoz i saw IM 16 doh.gif

## now i know ironman can be use as IM brows.gif

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QUOTE(daniellehu @ Jul 7 2021, 09:39 AM)
I am just quoting your initial, IM16 (Ironman16) smile.gif
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Oledi be mention.
Fsm got promo now, can flip2 their recommended fund
Eunitrust oso can try if got bigger budget, frequently offer 0% sales charge.
Stashaway, Akru, Wahed,...... Auto robo advisor.
Opus touch specialist in bond n mmf.
Allocate plus by affin hwang oso not bad.

All the best
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QUOTE(wayn3san @ Jul 10 2021, 03:57 PM)
Hi guys, seeking your kind professional advice here.

Looking to start a PRS acc mainly for tax relief purposes. Was reading up the thread here and would like to confirm, opening a PRSaccount through FSM makes the most cost saving sense since there is no/minimal sales charge incurred.

But just to confirm, mgmt fees are incurred from the fund houses right, not from the FSM platform itself. So in other words - cannot lari from this charges.

Thanks in advance for your replies.
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QUOTE(wayn3san @ Jul 10 2021, 04:16 PM)
Nice, thanks for your comment.

Perhaps sifu, @Ramjade can advice on mgmt fees. Then I can proceed to open the acc haha.

Thanks!
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management fee is charge by fund house , cannot escape punya.....

Beside that, must aware this fee oso.

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Account opening RM10.....is MUST, but got ppl said open through PPA website is waive for this moment

Annual fee RM8 .....no charge during the FIRST year with that particular Fund house, so some ppl choose different fund house YEARLY, but sifu @Ramjade said just stick with the BEST , RM8 is nothing if that PRS fund can help u offset the fee.

MOSTLY PRS that offer at FSM/eunitrust is 0% ....buy through PPA will chrage u RM1/transaction (not sure got waive at this moment or not)
FSM/eunitrust got many choices except public punya......if u survey/research, u will notice that Public PRS is performing recently bcoz last year, they eat viagra... brows.gif


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