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ironman16
post Jul 10 2021, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(wayn3san @ Jul 10 2021, 05:02 PM)
Ahhhh thanks so much for your input.

Meaning I open an account in PPA then open my account in FSM may get rm10 waived? That’s the most cost effective way to open my acc right ?

So if I want to buy public fund , no choice have to buy through PPA lor… hahaha will research and see which fund I get..
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account opening fee is u open the account that start with PPA<urs IC>......after u open the acc, if u go FSM invest, no need pay oledi , just give them ur PPA number (i think this is the cost effectively way brows.gif )
if this year u buy through PPA, better just stick with it....BUT one buy in a few SHOT aje bcoz transaction fee.
Wanna buy for the first time through PPA (got waive the RM10), after acc open n buy one time, go FSM continue......not sure can or not......wanna try ? brows.gif

not need go thru PPA oso ok, go to public /PMO just purchase their PRS....but 3% sales charge ...

remember stick to ONE PRS fund only each year......wanna buy 5 PRS fund this year oso can BUT not worth.....remember the RM8 u pay to fund house each year (waive in first year only or no transaction year ) brows.gif

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post Jul 10 2021, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(wayn3san @ Jul 10 2021, 05:24 PM)
Ok noted!! Will open in PPA first haha. Likely this year will buy 1-3 times to fill the 3k gap only. After that wait next year haha.

So if open my acc this year, charge rm8; so I just buy my fund from PPA then get waived for the rm8 cos first year?
Question - 1 txn cost in PPA is rm1 right? What bout FSM ya?
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open acc charge u rm10 (waive by PPA now )

rm8 waive for the first year and at the year that no transaction ..........so u not need pay...

FSM is free............pay zero all the time except rm10 open acc and rm8 if stick with the same fund house on 2nd year.

My suggest is :

Open account at PPA, buy for the first times , any amount u like bcoz u pay rm1/transaction.
after that that go FSM continue....seen FSM is 0 % ......and u not need pay RM10 , bcoz oledi open acc...
not sure can or not..... hmm.gif

wanna easy just stick with PPA this year, next year come FSM, sure is 0 fee.
make sure u use 2 to 3 shot kasi tembak habis sampai rm3k......if suddenly big dip......not need think twice liao.....kasi tembak kaw2.....




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post Jul 10 2021, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 10 2021, 10:04 PM)
since you already had both covering Asia Pac equities....

for a bit of not so correlated exposure....
try to explore
AmPRS - Asia Pacific REITs
https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/facts...c=global-search
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waseh.....boss....kasi suggest one for me.....next year target.....

already got Principal asia dynamic , Affin Growth. Affin moderate, Am Reits..... brows.gif
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post Jul 10 2021, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 10 2021, 10:23 PM)
ssince you are HEAVY on equities,...can try some Conservative fund to be abit more "balanced"?  biggrin.gif
else try as per below?
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i dun like conservative fund.......shariah punya oso doh.gif .......no more choice ? hmm.gif

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post Jul 10 2021, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 10 2021, 10:30 PM)
hmm.gif how about malaysia focused prs funds?
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got any suggest?

but msia in long term until i retire can survive ?

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post Jul 10 2021, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 10 2021, 11:02 PM)
public mutual PRS Equity fund...70% malaysia:30% asia pac...if malaysia down still hv 30% in Asia pac to help  brows.gif
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public PRS gonna pay 3% sales charge , right? hmm.gif


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post Jul 10 2021, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 10 2021, 11:24 PM)
yes, but if you amortized it over 10~15 yrs till your retirement,...then it will be very little compared to the total cummulative ROIs that fund can generate over that same period...
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ok.....thanks for the suggest....i go flip2 .......still got 6 month to decide ..... cool2.gif
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post Jul 10 2021, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(wayn3san @ Jul 10 2021, 11:55 PM)
Haha, okay boss!

But I plan to do for tax relief only - so 3k max and likely don’t monitor like you.. so will only do 1-3 shots to max it then forget bout it till next year.

Will just open an account in PPA this year , then next year I use FSM to buy other funds. Correct right this cost efficient strategy haha
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i didnt monitor my PRS fund oso.......i only monitor when i havent reach my 3k quata.........finding the lowest point to in......after i reach 3k.....bye2 oledi......i will do some home work for next year choices (normally year end ) ........ cool2.gif
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post Jul 11 2021, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 11 2021, 12:01 AM)
Reits not worth it because on top of the reits management fee they charge you on the annual fee. And reits is not really suitable for young investor looking for capital appreciation
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u mean AmPRS - Asia Pacific REITs - Class D not worth to invest?.......... sweat.gif

i though seen now reits all not performing.....i try buy at the low point, hope it will up in future when i'm retire later...... doh.gif
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post Jul 20 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 20 2021, 10:40 AM)
was lurking for PRS fund performance,...
noticed this.....
Manulife Shariah PRS - Global REIT - Class C

https://www.fsmone.com.my/funds/tools/facts...c=global-search
https://www.ppa.my/wp-content/uploads/2021/...ce-Jun-2021.pdf
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ya......i oso notice this fund b4.....but its a new fund.....so ,dont dare recommend ppl..... biggrin.gif .....

feed in this Manulife Shariah Global REIT Fund.....

i notice it bcoz that time i survey for Reits fund.....

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jul 20 2021, 01:42 PM)
added some info,...

btw, did you got some for your portfolio during/after your last survey?
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no......i kecut at last...........oso notice flat for a few month.........

so my portfolio didnt hold pure Reits fund except PRS cool2.gif
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post Jul 20 2021, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(AnasM @ Jul 20 2021, 04:37 PM)
Siapa dah beli prs dr Manulife
Diaorang ade promo free rm100 kalau beli 3k prs
Berbaloi ke geng?
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where u saw the info?
kasi link , boss cool2.gif

## ok, i saw it oledi https://asia.manulifeam.com/ifunds-offers-my.html
Only investment into PRS Class C funds will be eligible for this campaign

-online
-3k lump sum and hold 6 months
-get rm100 e voucher

Based on this Sales charge see page 64
Sales Charge = (amount to be invested) x 3.00%
= RM3,000 x 3.00%
= RM90

u gonna pay rm3090 to manulife, i think hmm.gif

so , actually u only earn rm10 (rm100 - rm90) sweat.gif

i oso explore a bit their platform , Manulife iFUNDS .....cant find the sales charge gonna pay if buy any UT from their platform.... sweat.gif

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post Jul 21 2021, 09:56 AM

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not sure the calculation is correct or not.....u guy oso can flip2......thats what i know brows.gif

QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 21 2021, 09:49 AM)
for PRS funds....i read last time for FSM PRS funds no need to wait,...always 0% SC
now must wait for promo to get 0%SC?
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uncle wanna wait for the extra "promo".....like free voucher if one shot 3k... rclxms.gif

QUOTE(cklimm @ Jul 21 2021, 09:53 AM)
zero sales charge all the time, another RM70 ewallet during promo
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uncle havent start buy prs this year?.... brows.gif



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post Jul 31 2021, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Jul 31 2021, 04:08 PM)
Hi guys i am new to PRS after seeing many post if this is  my first fund going for growth i should choose principal prs asia ex japan( CIMB) am i right?
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if ur purpose is income tax relief, u oledi win ...

at this moment is yes for ur choice.....
wan new fund ?
try Manulife Shariah PRS‐Global REIT C brows.gif

kasi u this for home work , dun after that blame me......i kepo suggest only cool2.gif
https://www.ppa.my/wp-content/uploads/2021/...ll-Mar_2021.pdf

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post Jul 31 2021, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Jul 31 2021, 08:06 PM)
My my purpose if income tax relief  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

i do agree with REIT i am seeing the economy going down and than back up but dangerous as this round i felt the rich will accquire more wealth in term of Asset.
after register at PPA i tried to login but i don't have a User ID and never receive any email? i need to wait till weekdays they set up account and send to me is it?
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Just registered? If yes, patient a bit, take time.... If can't wait, call PPA n try get ur answer?
If register through PPA, remember is charge rm1 per transaction. Accumulate bullet baru shoot.
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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Jul 31 2021, 08:22 PM)
After register at PPA can use FSMONE to add money right? i saw previous post got say?
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after that continue with the FSM i think is no problem ........only thing is the amount that u buy with PPA , dont think FSM can trace but PPA can track All transaction .....no worry........... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Seth Ho @ Aug 4 2021, 08:41 PM)
Hey ironman thank you for replying me to teach me. btw today is wednesday i after not receive a email from ppa just some email verification that is all. Do you know normally how long does it takes? or after online enrolment will they send me a ID?
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i'm not sure how long u gonna wait bcoz i buy with FSM...............PPA act as middle man....help u forward to fund house..........gonna wait the fund house help u create n invest.........may b about one week.......u normally will receive email from fund house (the PRS that u purchase) mention acc being create/invest..........

or any other sifu that invest through PPA can give u some hint... sweat.gif

or u can call/email PPA if wanna know faster...
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QUOTE(thecurious @ Aug 4 2021, 09:15 PM)
Normally when you buy or topup, how long before its reflected in your account? The new units.
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u mean buy from FSM?

about 5 days to 7 days (reflect in my FSM acc)...........i didnt check it every time sweat.gif bcoz i use excel track it.......as long as i get the dip NAV, then i go update my sheet..............only check during end of month whether the unit tally or not......

this year still can shoot.......waiting the dip again..... brows.gif ......if no dip, gonna dca until 3k.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Aug 13 2021, 02:07 PM)
There was one minor dip back in end of July cause of China. Didn't manage to get into it doh.gif
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nvm.income tax relief part u oledi earn it..........

in july dip , i think u oso not dare to enter bcoz thinking that might b another dip in coming month......... brows.gif

dont time..........just dca as usual + during dip u top extra...........sure win liao

unless u wanna op for one shoot in 3k whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Aug 13 2021, 04:13 PM)
No lah not only PRS fund. Other nonPRS also missed out. Damn sad

That time wanted to chip in ady one. Manatau so soon rebound back. Next time really don't wait anymore, first dip terus in doh.gif
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i prefer use dip top, dip top.........until i zero baru stop whistling.gif

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