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 Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??

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Ramjade
post Oct 22 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(ivzh @ Oct 22 2016, 03:36 PM)
from PPA
annual fee - RM8 charged yearly per Provider (not payable in the year the account was opened and in the year where there is no contribution)

so it mean if we doesnt top up that year, we are not charged rm8 ?

i m a bit cheapskate, dont want let them buta buta charge rm8/ year.. if not going to cont with the PRS
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Should topup to pay less income tax. What's rm8 compare to income tax.whistling.gif
Topup until 2021. After that don't need to topup.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 22 2016, 04:28 PM
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post Oct 22 2016, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(ironman16 @ Oct 22 2016, 05:47 PM)
Thanks ....if like this i will top up one every year .... rclxms.gif
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Topup max rm3k/year until 2021 as after 2021 there's no more income tax relief
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post Oct 22 2016, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 22 2016, 05:51 PM)
where did you get this info?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 21 2016, 10:18 PM)
Tax relief - up to RM 3,000 per tax payer per year of assessment (Y/A) from Y/A 2012 to 2021.
did not mention age limit ....
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...s-Benefits-2965

ONLY PRS youth incentives has age limit
Aged 20 and above but have yet to reach the age of 31
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...tive-RM500-4558
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Ramjade
post Oct 23 2016, 06:12 AM

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QUOTE(ivzh @ Oct 23 2016, 01:07 AM)
CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity - Class C NAV price abit high, don't know how high it will go..

while AmPRS - Asia Pacific REITs - Class D only have 1 year history..
sorry guys, what does the Class C and Class D mean?
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High NAV does not meant it's expensive. Unless you are talking about when you cmpoare to it's own NAV for past 3 months.
Both Cimb and Amsia are feeders fund into
CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund and AmAsia Pacific REITs Fund respectively. So how they perform depend fully on the parent fund.
Ramjade
post Oct 30 2016, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 30 2016, 07:26 AM)
Money in Prs gonna "locked in" until 55 years old?
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Yes. Once tax relief is no more, no need to put max RM3k/year. Just leave it as it is.

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post Oct 30 2016, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 30 2016, 07:47 AM)
Hi bro, what do you means by tax relief is no more and max3k/ yr?
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You put more than RM3k whether it's RM4k. 10k, you get the % of RM3k tax relief.
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post Oct 30 2016, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 30 2016, 07:50 AM)
Tqvm smile.gif
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After 2021 when there's no more income tax relief, you can stop contributing RM3k/year unless the goverment decide to extend the duration of tax relief.
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post Nov 24 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 24 2016, 03:53 PM)
Yep that clause is what scares me from doing prs
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Be my guest to pay more income tax to the government. The government said thank you biggrin.gif

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post Nov 24 2016, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 24 2016, 05:20 PM)
any chance of the country renewing their tax relief policy for prs and epf?
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Tax relief until 2021 only. After that, don't know if continue or discontinue.
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post Nov 24 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 24 2016, 05:31 PM)
thanks man. I'll try to shift some portion of my savings to prs fundsupermart next year.
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Only put max rm3k/year and a single sen more. After reach 2021, you don't need to add anymore unless tax relief is continue.
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post Dec 22 2016, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ichitech @ Dec 22 2016, 08:35 PM)
Just got my FSM account activate and about to transfer money now,  but read thru this forum, i am still do not wish to put my money in local investment, so i guess either AMbank pacific REIT or CIMB REIT ex Japan..
any idea how these 2 found compare to each others ?
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These 2 funds are good funds as they are feeder. Cimb feeds into Cimb Principal Asia Pacific Ambank feeds into AmAsia Pacific REITS.
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post Jan 2 2017, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jan 2 2017, 01:41 AM)
Hahhahaa. Perhaps I should re-phrase it; what I meant was, what would be the criteria to be eligible for the scheme.
I suppose it is the same the current Youth Incentive Scheme -- the only difference would be the amount given.

Read-through the PPA website, but it hasn't reflect the changes made during the Budget 2017 tabling.
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I think applicable for 1st time investor only. If existing one won't get RM1k.
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post Jan 2 2017, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jan 2 2017, 06:25 PM)
"Notice from PPA (26/10/2016)

PPA shall update the information on PRS Youth Incentive pursuant to the Budget 2017 announcement once we have received final confirmation from the relevant authorities. For further enquiries, please call 1300-131-772 (PPA)"
Link refers: http://www.ppa.my/prs/prs-youth/prs-youth-incentive/

PRS website has yet to reflect the latest Budget 2017 tabling. I hope it is revised soonest, for clarity sakes to others, in deciding on whether to take up the PRS.
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Have to wait for budget to pass first.
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post Jan 22 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Newbies2017 @ Jan 22 2017, 05:02 PM)
would like to know how exactly this prs works, read through all the details at the website but still dont get a clear picture of it. Let say i wish to get the 1k incentive, does that mean i have to pay 1k, one time off, then after few months i can get back the money together with the interest? And is this consider high risk investment which there is chance that i might lose my invested amount of money?
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PRS is practically buying a UT and keep it until retirement age. You cannot touch the money until you are retired. Yes. One time only. THe RM1k incentive will be given to you once you are at 55 years old. Once money is put in, you can see the money but cannot touch it until you are 55 years old. If you withdraw early, I believed there is hefty fines.

You won't lose 100% of the money. Because over 30+ years takkan the market stay down forever meh? devil.gif Also, it depend on which fund are you buying. If you choose the wrong one, you will get about FD rates (which is bad). Choose the right one and you can get ~5-10% pa. biggrin.gif

The RM1k is just one part of the story. Until 2021, if one put max RM3k inside there/year, one can get RM3k worth of income tax relef. devil.gif

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post Jan 22 2017, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 22 2017, 05:45 PM)
eh the incentive will be given to your prs accouont when you hit 1k investment inside the fund, not until you 55 yrs old la  sweat.gif
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But you cannot remove that RM1k right? devil.gif
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post Jan 30 2017, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jan 30 2017, 04:53 PM)
This fund any good? https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...h-Fund-MYHPRSAF

I am also not sure what the tables meant, can anyone explain it to me?

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No. No good. Why? Annualized return only 4.75%, 1.16%, 1.41%. Better put FD if like that. FD beat this return hands down.

Don't look at cummulative. Look at annualised returns. That's how much the fund make in 1 year, how much average 2 years and how much average 3 years.
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post Feb 7 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Eddy924 @ Feb 7 2017, 07:34 PM)
From above fundsupermart link check on 3rd years volatility AIA just average performance.

So for beginners start with small capital would you suggest CIMB?

Today being suggested Ambank Reits by their RM, in chart result, seem above average.

Sorry again, newbie in investment.
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The 3 good funds
Cimb PRS Asia Pacific
AmPRS REITS
KenangaPRS one (only pick this if you are confident with Malaysian economy)
Ramjade
post Feb 11 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Feb 11 2017, 08:51 PM)
xuzen / Ramjade, may we have your thoughts on Affin Hwang Growth/Moderate funds?
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For PRS there are only 3 funds to look at.
Kenanga PRS ONe
Cimb PRS Asia Pacific
Amasia PRS REITS

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Feb 11 2017, 09:51 PM
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post Feb 14 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Feb 14 2017, 09:20 PM)
AHAM Growth =  puke.gif

AHAM moderate =  :thumbsup:

I am personally a contributor to AHAM PRS Moderate.

Xuzen
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I thought ypu went with ponzi 2 proxy?
Ramjade
post Feb 20 2017, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Feb 20 2017, 07:14 PM)
how about PB?
im new to PRS...
still considering my option..
hvnt invest any PRS yet but only have PBB in my thought now..
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PB sucks. Pay 3% SC. If you buy PRS from FSM, it's 0% service charge.

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