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 Private Retirement Fund, What the hell is that??

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post Jan 16 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Jan 16 2017, 08:44 AM)
are we still eligible for the RM1000 incentive if we have already receive the RM500 incentive earlier ?
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No.
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post Jan 18 2017, 10:51 PM

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are we still eligible for the RM1000 incentive if we have already receive the RM500 incentive earlier ?
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post Jan 19 2017, 08:34 PM

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Anyone have view on AmPRS Islamic Equity Fund? Seems to have good performance so far.



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post Jan 19 2017, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(wan_109 @ Jan 19 2017, 08:34 PM)
Anyone have view on AmPRS Islamic Equity Fund? Seems to have good performance so far.
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yawn.gif fund.

Quick quick go cari CIMB ones.....CIMB - Principle PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity Fund - Class C aka Ponzi 2.0's clone.

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post Jan 20 2017, 09:45 PM

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This would have eaten into the value of the investment, right? So technically if the annual return is 2%, then the actual return would be lesser. Is my understanding correct? Plus, the fees and charges would be incurred, whether or not the investment is making +return.
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post Jan 20 2017, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jan 20 2017, 09:45 PM)
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This would have eaten into the value of the investment, right? So technically if the annual return is 2%, then the actual return would be lesser. Is my understanding correct? Plus, the fees and charges would be incurred, whether or not the investment is making +return.
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So technically if the annual return is 2%, then the actual return would be lesser. Is my understanding correct?
hmm.gif NO...your understanding is wrong...
if the annual return is 2%...you get 2% returns
the mgmt fees and other fees are already reflected in the NAVs....and these NAVs is where you had take to make calculation to determine the gain/loss

on this "Plus, the fees and charges would be incurred, whether or not the investment is making +return."
YES.
you need to pay for the expenses for the operation/mgmt. of your investment.



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post Jan 21 2017, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 19 2017, 11:54 PM)
yawn.gif fund.

Quick quick go cari CIMB ones.....CIMB - Principle PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity Fund - Class C aka Ponzi 2.0's clone.

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My Ponzi 2.0 clone doing very well lol 31% return since October 2014 so I asked my dad to put some money into Ponzi 2.0 clone mother fund(CIMB Principal Asia Pac Dynamic) since his Kidsave drop until cannot see. doing pretty well also 3% in 3 months!
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post Jan 21 2017, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 19 2017, 11:54 PM)
yawn.gif fund.

Quick quick go cari CIMB ones.....CIMB - Principle PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity Fund - Class C aka Ponzi 2.0's clone.

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This 1 buy from FSM can claim income tax? How to proof when get audit?
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post Jan 21 2017, 06:34 AM

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This 1 buy from FSM can claim income tax? How to proof when get audit?
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You'll get annual statement from CIMB Principal and PPA.
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post Jan 21 2017, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Jan 21 2017, 12:56 AM)
My Ponzi 2.0 clone doing very well lol 31% return since October 2014 so I asked my dad to put some money into Ponzi 2.0 clone mother fund(CIMB Principal Asia Pac Dynamic) since his Kidsave drop until cannot see. doing pretty well also 3% in 3 months!
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This 1 buy from FSM can claim income tax? How to proof when get audit?
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Keep the receipt of purchase. This one, shueh shueh / mati - mati also can claim!

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Happy Happy rite?

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Ya ya happy I'm sure yours is very good also rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zestsc1028 @ Jan 6 2017, 08:22 PM)
Just notice that the PRS website was updated.
So it is official now that the Youth Incentive has increased from RM500 to RM1000.
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finally it's official ! rclxms.gif

wait for PRS promotion then do 2nd placement! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 21 2017, 10:46 PM

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finally it's official !  rclxms.gif

wait for PRS promotion then do 2nd placement! icon_rolleyes.gif
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PRS got promotion period? Whats the deal last time?
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post Jan 21 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(zestsc1028 @ Jan 21 2017, 10:46 PM)
PRS got promotion period? Whats the deal last time?
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just some free gift blush.gif
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post Jan 22 2017, 05:02 PM

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would like to know how exactly this prs works, read through all the details at the website but still dont get a clear picture of it. Let say i wish to get the 1k incentive, does that mean i have to pay 1k, one time off, then after few months i can get back the money together with the interest? And is this consider high risk investment which there is chance that i might lose my invested amount of money?
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QUOTE(Newbies2017 @ Jan 22 2017, 05:02 PM)
would like to know how exactly this prs works, read through all the details at the website but still dont get a clear picture of it. Let say i wish to get the 1k incentive, does that mean i have to pay 1k, one time off, then after few months i can get back the money together with the interest? And is this consider high risk investment which there is chance that i might lose my invested amount of money?
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1) similar to epf, once money in, money split into account A and B, you can only take the money out under certain condition

Both account cannot withdraw money from account A, except epf where you can withdraw under certain limit for external investment

Difference is that epf, you need specific reason to withdraw from account B, whereas PRS, you can withdraw money from account B with tax penalty 8%

2) you no need to go one shot 1k for the incentive, as long as when the incentive program runs, your prs account have not reach 1k, and during the program period, your prs account reach 1k, then you are qualified for the 1k incentive into the prs account
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post Jan 22 2017, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(Newbies2017 @ Jan 22 2017, 05:02 PM)
would like to know how exactly this prs works, read through all the details at the website but still dont get a clear picture of it. Let say i wish to get the 1k incentive, does that mean i have to pay 1k, one time off, then after few months i can get back the money together with the interest? And is this consider high risk investment which there is chance that i might lose my invested amount of money?
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PRS is practically buying a UT and keep it until retirement age. You cannot touch the money until you are retired. Yes. One time only. THe RM1k incentive will be given to you once you are at 55 years old. Once money is put in, you can see the money but cannot touch it until you are 55 years old. If you withdraw early, I believed there is hefty fines.

You won't lose 100% of the money. Because over 30+ years takkan the market stay down forever meh? devil.gif Also, it depend on which fund are you buying. If you choose the wrong one, you will get about FD rates (which is bad). Choose the right one and you can get ~5-10% pa. biggrin.gif

The RM1k is just one part of the story. Until 2021, if one put max RM3k inside there/year, one can get RM3k worth of income tax relef. devil.gif

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post Jan 22 2017, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 22 2017, 05:11 PM)
PRS is practically buying a UT and keep it until retirement age. You cannot touch the money until you are retired. Yes. One time only. THe RM1k incentive will be given to you once you are at 55 years old. Once money is put in, you can see the money but cannot touch it until you are 55 years old. If you withdraw early, I believed there is hefty fines.

You won't lose 100% of the money. Because over 30+ years takkan the market stay down forever meh? devil.gif Also, it depend on which fund are you buying. If you choose the wrong one, you will get about FD rates (which is bad). Choose the right one and you can get ~5-10% pa. biggrin.gif

The RM1k is just one part of the story. Until 2021, if one put max RM3k inside there/year, one can get RM3k worth of income tax relef.  devil.gif
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eh the incentive will be given to your prs accouont when you hit 1k investment inside the fund, not until you 55 yrs old la sweat.gif
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jan 22 2017, 05:45 PM)
eh the incentive will be given to your prs accouont when you hit 1k investment inside the fund, not until you 55 yrs old la  sweat.gif
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But you cannot remove that RM1k right? devil.gif

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