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post Oct 29 2006, 09:41 PM

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^ Nobody knows at the moment.

Honestly... I hope not. Especially a direct sequel with the old cast. I don't mind CE, only if they forward it 60, 70 years and let all the old cast die first. No more pink haired monotonous goddess... no more emotionless god-like robot... no more mindless sidekick.... no more RECYCLED SCENES !!


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post Oct 31 2006, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Oct 30 2006, 02:40 AM)
lol who do u mean by mindless sidekick??

anyway, i just watched episode 3 of stargazerr
i dont really get the main point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! anybody mind to clear my doubts?
what's the point of the movie? what happen at the end?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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mindless sidekick = Athrun doh.gif doh.gif See how he licks Kira's boots... and also Kira... see how he lick's Lacus' boots. UGH... Forget it.

Stargazer... which part that you don't understand? I think we had some discussion couple of pages before... maybe lots of pages before... tongue.gif The point of the movie is to make more money by selling merchandise, as with all gundam series. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Duke Beard @ Oct 30 2006, 11:21 AM)
I didn't like the movie ending, much prefered the series original ending.

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Only the first half of ZZ was stupid, the second half get's really good. Lighten up the Gundam series after the extremely serious Z Gundam.
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I don't really mind Kamille not becoming mind-fried, but at least some psycho attack on him would be nice. Expose him to some terrors of war of stuff like that, but whether Kamille is fried or not, I don't really mind.

But I don't like how Fa and Kamille ended up together at the end. For me, Fa doesn't seem like Kamille's soulmate. Four should be the one but she died, so never mind. But throughout the 3 movies, Kamille was clearly not that attached to Fa. She was probably the role of a close childhood friend whom everyone thought they were an item, but not in reality.

Anyway, this is what I interpret from the movies, dunno about how the anime portrayed Fa and Kamille's relationship.

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Oct 30 2006, 03:55 PM)
.. err its chinese sub.. so if u dont mind.. we can Pm you the link.

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Yes iam the kind who likes happy endings. but not to happy/1 sided.

I just dont like ZZ... Hotheaded angsty teen pilots.. stealing MS its ok in MSG but the follow on gets kinda boring.

Doesnt anyone knows the battlefield is aint a place for Kids.

Iam still hoping for a ZZ remake.. but i guess that aint gonna happend anytime sooner since Tomino already left Bandai...

Honestly Tomino is a rather strange old man... but then i coundt blame him... Since all bandai wants is angsty teen with kill em all.

Well with Fukuda inside Gundam now, Bandai wont be bugging him anymore and he also said "Gundam Seed will now serve the next generation"... oh boy
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ZZ... don't really feel like watching it, even though Zeta was interesting. the ZZ gundam looks really chunky and bulky, nothing like the sleek Zeta.

"Gundam Seed will now serve the next generation"....

SHIVER ME TIMBERS....MATEY.... AARRRGGGHHHH....
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post Oct 31 2006, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Oct 31 2006, 02:18 AM)
Well... Think of Camile like Shinn who never had true feeling for Lunamaria but when time are desperate.. things change.

Btw in the actual Anima Fa and Camile was more like just close friends..
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Hm... the anime makes more sense tongue.gif

I refuse to believe that Shinn and Lunamaria had feelings towards each other. To me it is just a rushed pairing, just for the sake for letting everyone in the show to have a partner. Too bad for them.

The relationships in GSD is really messed up and horrible. YUCKS...
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post Nov 1 2006, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(wufei @ Oct 31 2006, 10:53 AM)
neither did  I believe that.

But Athrun and meryn is a good pair
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Athrun and Meyrin is a horrible pairing. Meyrin didn't show much attention or affection to Athrun at first, it was all Luna going gaga over Athrun. And later when the writers began to mess everything up, they decided that Meyrin didn't get enough screentime, so they let her join in the Athrun hunt. And the excuse they used was Meyrin had been secretly having a crush for Athrun.
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Forget it.... GSD messed everything up.

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Oct 31 2006, 11:08 AM)
....... Ok i know some of you may say this whole i Hate destiny is gettin old and iam just ranting endlessly.... Well for me honestly I like Seed Destiny early on, Matther of fact was gonna subject it as 1 of my Fav BUT.. the screw they did on the 2nd half just piss me off. So i hope you understand my frustration.

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Oct 31 2006, 07:18 PM)
err Shinn is the main character! Not Kira Not Athrun.  They are Seed Main Chara..

The story is supose to revolve around him Not Kira... He already got his turn already.
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We will never get sick of bashing GSD, just like how Fukuda won't get sick of recycled scenes laugh.gif

Kira stole everything from Shinn... the main character role, the main mecha at the title screen, his supposed mentor Athrun, and basically pwned everything which is not related to Archangel.... shocking.gif

I was surprised the title didn't change into Gundam Seed Strike Freedom... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Nov 1 2006, 03:55 AM)
I seriously don't mind you know, if he did it literally  biggrin.gif
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I would, even if it was literally. I don't want to see gundam turning into ecchi... arrgghh..

Imagine Char or Amuro doing the same thing.... to... erm... Haman? Sayla? Lalah? UGH...

Got this from animesuki...

RX78 is in real deep shit...
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post Nov 2 2006, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Nov 1 2006, 01:26 PM)
alright i just found out something at the end of stargazzer.
SPOILERS ALERT!!

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I refuse to believe that they would die just like that. Yes, they might be dead, but remember this is CE... anything can happen. If they want to revive them (for more model-promoting OVAs of course), they could simply conjure a reason for them to survive, eg wrong calculation by Selene... Stargazer's AI did something miraculous... bla bla... you get the idea...

QUOTE(Zeroth @ Nov 1 2006, 10:35 PM)
Hi, so is it means that Tomino will NO LONGER involve in any works relate to Gundam? Hehe, yeah, I think he is strange too, I have heard some of his 'popular works' like V Gundam and Ideon, but after all I still looking forward to watch gundam anime made by him, since he is creator of Gundam, right? Honestly, I havent watch many Gundam anime yet, but after watching Turn A, its my fav now. smile.gif
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Turn A.... still yet to watch that... but heard that it is superb despite the weird designs.
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QUOTE(azmie_83 @ Nov 2 2006, 12:29 PM)

his appearance as a main cast is needed !  shakehead.gif
NO !!

To hell with Kira... I want Shinn as the main character... even if he becomes bad like Vader...

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Nov 2 2006, 04:45 PM)
The whole purpose why Meyrin take intrest in Athrun so she can make a elder Sister jealous.

Meyrin is the kind of younger sibbling who like to harass their elder.. My bro wont live to see this day alright.

Meyrin never really had feelings for Athrun... Why now I have totally no idea.. Its just 1 of Fukuda incosistent plot.
Harass her sister? hm... she was always the quieter one, the indecisive one... Luna was more outgoing and friendly...

Hah! Meyrin is DA EVIL SIBLING !!! Meh...

Stupid Fukuda (and his wife)... vmad.gif
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Nov 2 2006, 11:35 PM)
Err yeah... She was always quiet.. but when Athrun comes around.. she begin.to be the subtle harass. Didnt u notice the things she do.. Like in Meer concert she pretend to fall so Athrun pick her up which made Her Sister Luna jealous.

Well Meyrin always have alot of rivaly with her Sis.. Lets not forget the skirt thing..
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That's why she's the DA EVIL TWIN !! Pretending to fall down... checking out the size of her sister's butt... stealing her sister's crush, causing her be paired up with Shinn akwardly... EVIL !!

hm... i wonder where has all the other gundam fans gone.. it's always the few of us here around...
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post Nov 3 2006, 09:49 AM

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True, Kira was always the main character in CE era, but Destiny is not his show, and he shouldn't snatch the limelight from Shinn. Don't get the wrong idea, I am not a Shinn supporter anyway.

Kira should have stayed as a side character in GSD, like how Amuro did in Zeta. Come out and whack a few grunts, show off his skills, and then stay back on the small Orb island and be quiet. Let ZAFT and EA do all the fighting. To be honest, he has nothing to do with Orb, so why interfere? He was never the prince of Orb, unlike Cagalli who has the responsibility to ensure the soverignity of her country.

This has been raised for umpteen times, but it is always worth ranting. Kira should never had taken over the limelight, it just spoils the whole balance of the show. Even for Shinn... Join Lacus and co. at the end? ZOMFG...

If you were living in the CE era, obviously Dullindal's idea of the Destiny Plan, which is similar to the ancient caste system, should not be implemented. However, should you support Lacus? I know I won't, because she doesn't rally for anything either. All she does is manipulate Kira and Athrun and the whole of Archangel to whack every faction, and then left everything in turmoil. So after all the pwning, what is left? No leadership, no goverment, no laws, no ideals, absolutely nothing left. So, once again the fighting resumes. (giving Kira the chance to pwn everyone again)

To be honest, even the psychotic Relena in GW has something that she believes in. Pacificism, total peace without any armaments. Although her ideals were also imperfect, at least she is fighting for something. Not like Lacus' pink army who pwns everything in sight just for eye candy.

Let's assume that Lacus has something in mind that she's fighting for. And what does she do? Instead of rallying troops to form a rebel group, like White Fang, League Militia, AEUG etc, all she had was 3 DOMs... and of course god-mode SF and IJ and the absurd Hyaku-insulting Akatsuki. 5 units + 2 battleships pwning everything in sight. Oh, and the Kusanagi with a few Murasames. A relatively small troop, pwning an entire ZAFT army. OK, to be fair, this IS CE, where the most absurd things could and will happen.

But the point is, I'd like to know how Lacus rallied her troops, how she managed to get so many supporters despite being obsure for so long. Don't give nonsense like it was an undercover job that the Clyne faction helped her and such. ZAFT, under Dullindal, was adored by all of ZAFT (except the Junius 7-dropping terrorists) and even Earth countries. There's not much sense that ZAFT would turn their backs on Dully just because Lacus has returned.

Geez... No brains. They'd rather vote for a singer rather than support a true politician who has done so much good. OK, Destiny plan was bad, but even before the PLANT citizens could show any sign of resistance or objection, Dully was pwned.

AEUG, not unlike Lacus' army, was a rebellion force. So was League Militia. Even White Fang. At least it made sense that all these factions had something to fight, aka cruel treatment by the Titans, Zanscare, and Romfeller. Lacus' army had none. Except that she knows ZAFT is going to pwn Orb.

Ah... long rant, but the point is... GSD had no focus, that's why it was so BAD.
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Nov 3 2006, 04:56 PM)
Since Fukuda so wanna please the Fangirls.... so Kira pwn ,Fangirl happy, FAngirl buy merchanize, Bandai makes $$$$...

Honesly i dont wanna take anything in Seed seriously the Anime really just to make quick cash than to make a story to fullfill Gundam Standards.
Terminal is crap. People supporting Lacus blindly is also crap. Whole GSD is real crap, especially the bolded one on top. HOW TRUE IS THAT !!

Stop polluting gundam for the 10 year old fangirls and fan boys !! HELLO!! We are the ones who are more able to spend on gundam merchandise !! tongue.gif

About the unicorn mecha, I'm not really fond of the weird design. And since it's only a novel and not a full series of anime, I guess I might not be as enthusiastic. But UC... hm... might be worthwhile. Let's keep our fingers crossed.

mobiusone: WOOT... thanks for the MS girls... MORE...MORE !!




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QUOTE(young_soul @ Nov 6 2006, 03:17 PM)
Zudah, Aegis, Justice, Saviour and Infinite Justice also got "horn" laugh.gif
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ATHRUN IS HORNY !! laugh.gif

Zeta in a flash...
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Who's the purple haired girl at the second row, first pic? Rosamia? Can't remember...
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post Nov 6 2006, 09:11 PM

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^ Add in horny Argama pilots and officers eavesdropping at the lovebirds' chatter tongue.gif
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^ ya... Sarah was killed when she got in between Katz's shot and Paptimus' The O... Stupid pink haired chick... sacrificing for a violet haired pimp who doesnt even give a damn about her.

But I forgot how Rosamia was killed... Care to enlighten?

Speaking of which, Paptimus Scirocco does make a menacing baddie... which is something lacking in GSD. Same with Haman the psycho...

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QUOTE(sharingan devil @ Nov 7 2006, 01:43 AM)
Hey! how you can forget Red ZAKU specialized for Charr!??

the red horn! it's so famous that keroro use the horn on his machine and his bed!
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RED MECHAS ARE HORNY !!!

Mercurius has a small horn too tongue.gif So does Vayette...

QUOTE(beb21 @ Nov 7 2006, 08:56 AM)
if i'm not mistaken, kamile punched char (quattro) when he won't admit that he is char. This took place after the battle of jaburo...

So, is the sequence of the pictures wrong? It should be after the capsule broke..
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tsk tsk tsk... Zeta movie left out a lot of things... no Char punching... not even Rosamia's killing in Psycho MKII... there's only one Psycho in the movie, and even Four's death was not dramatic and Kamille-affecting.... Four was killed like a stray dog in the movie... meh...

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QUOTE(tsubasa89 @ Nov 7 2006, 09:36 AM)
...i havent watch the 3rd part of the movie yet...but i heard...NO Palace Athene..... unsure.gif
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Palace Athene did appear in the 3rd movie... but it did nothing spectacular though, just some wrestling with Methuss and got KO'ed by Emma... that's it.

But the battle btw The O and Quebeley was superb... Newtype psycho POWAH !! Both were trying to fry each other... Too bad Kamille wasnt that strong in the movie...

By the way, here's a prototype spyshot of the Air force... Ohh..... be very afraid...
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post Nov 8 2006, 01:48 AM

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^Hm... new to UC it seems... I too aws dumbfounded which I made the swtich to UC.

Char didn't die... Otherwise there won't be Char's Counterattack tongue.gif
The souls that you saw are newtype souls... Newtypes, when dead, live on as souls, floating around and messing with other living newtypes' minds, like Kamille's. Think Jedis and you'll get the idea of a newtype. The Zeta's biosensor gimmick channels Kamille's newtype powers (coupled with other dead newtypes too) into the suit, making it do kick ass things like energy shield and super long beam sabres...

Kinda cheesy, but that's the way it works... At least it's more acceptable than plot armor or plot ammo.

For those whose souls are tied down by gravity... DIE DIE DIE !!
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Nov 8 2006, 04:54 AM)
plot ammo? What that..

Sigh.. Plot Armor.. our Heroes Kira and Athrun.. even at such Megaton blast.. They can still be in 1 piece...

I was expecting Athrun to atleast to 3rd degree burns... Speaking of it i find it strange..

His body is in perfect codition.. with just minor bandage.. yet he have hard time talking, walking and when he when out and fight.. he was bleeding..

So can i ask what injuries did he got from the exploding gouf? and why Merilyn who was just right next to him get lesser injuries????

And last when kira endure the same thing.. why his didnt get a single injuries.....

Damm how retarded Destiny is..
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Plot Ammo = Aimbot + Unlimited ammo via beamspam + inconsistent damage doh.gif

CE characters wear phase shift even on their uniforms... Kira had a whole MS blowing in front of him, and the whole cockpit was shattered. Yet he only ended up in bandages. Andy at least lost an eye and an arm. Athrun only got superficial injuries (bleeding head) while Meyrin had nothing at all...

Ah... Kill them all... ala Tomino style tongue.gif
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Nov 8 2006, 01:59 PM)
not on morisa watch.... I wish that Morisa will GTFO from Gundam.. cos she might turn Seed to a Yaoi anime.. God knows.. Since Kira doesnt have any relationship with Lacus and Athrun and Cagali broke up... They might be toghter.. who knows.
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Please... no... don't turn gundam into teenage anime... I don't want "I love you you love me muacks muacks..."

Love relationships in gundam should be subtle, vague, yet strong and heart-warming. Like Zechs-Noin... Like Emma-Henken... Like Odelo-Erischa, Marvet-Oliver... Even Mwu-Murrue was kinda sweet. Bitter sweet that is.

I hate soap opera stories where a couple ends up discovering they were each other's lost twin. Or simply pairing up two characters which do not have much interaction throughout the series.

Say TAK NAK to Kira-Cagalli incest... Athrun should go back to Cagalli, but maintain their love relationship like those examples mentioned above. No lovey-dovey stuff, just pure affection. To hell with robot platonic Kira-Lacus... To hell with absurd Athrun-Meyrin... To eternal hell with Shinn-Luna !!

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QUOTE(mobiusone @ Nov 8 2006, 11:24 PM)
1.teenager/guy stumbles onto a gundam.
2.get emo over killing people.
3.NEWTYPU/SEED/BRICK SHITTING POWAR WAS INVOKED!
4.becomes an ace pilot because everyone thinks so
5.Save the world
6.?????
7.PROFIT!!!
You forgot....

COLONY DROP !!

BIG... REALLY BIG...CANNON

Seriously, almost all gundams are the same, especially Tomino's gundams... I don't mind at all, as long as they develop the characters well. GW's starting was superb... no emo kid... they were killing machines biggrin.gif

Zeroth: Seems like the movie version of CE... but can't read japanese though... Please, don't let this be the next gundam... coz it will mean more Fukuda.... more Morisa.... more recycled scenes... more BORING GOD-LIKE ATTACK.... worst of all... more blasphemy of good old UC mecha !!

Damn it use back the GINNs... CGUEs.... stop copying ZAKUs and Goufs and Doms...

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Monoeyed gundam? Depends on what your definition of gundam is tongue.gif

To me there is no monoeyed gundam... even the pic above. But I would welcome any (and every) monoeyed mecha which is on par or even superior to gundams... CE Sazabi anyone? NO !!! STOP THE BLASPHEMY !!

Oh yeah, the pic reminds me of SRW designs more than gundam designs, especially boxy UC mechas. Look at the amount of sharp fins... It's so SRW...


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