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post Dec 9 2006, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Foxngn @ Dec 9 2006, 07:57 PM)
I'm also like 0080 so much, too bad i didn't collect the anime.
I'm a UC fans, anyway....C.E. can go eat sh*t, all they ever do in the seed series is steal....bad bad education for kids
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UC also curi gundam lah.... MKII also stolen mah... Stealing gundams are part of military actions biggrin.gif

But CE stealing ideas from UC is a big NO NO shakehead.gif I can still bear with GS's copying of ideas, but GSD's Zeta parody is C-R-A-P...


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post Dec 10 2006, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Dec 10 2006, 03:10 AM)
Later can sell Chris Makenzie figures and all those Chris fans will buy so Bandai happy.
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all Hail Jesus Yamato.
Indeed. Christina figurines will be so much more hot than stupid GSD figurines.. How many Lacus models have they released already? dry.gif I still don't understand why people think the pink haired princess is hot. She can't do shit except act innocent and talk crap...

Oh well, if she can manipulate the writers to make everyone except her boyfriend crap, I guess she is influential... shakehead.gif

Christina redhead for the WIN !!

Kira Tomato.... Go F.O...
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post Dec 11 2006, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Dec 10 2006, 07:53 PM)
people love Lacus cos the Fangirls who love Kira and the only romantic relationship that Kira is closest is Lacus..

Too bad 0080 no fanservice for Chris... sign..  She should be wearing a shirt and panties only when she knock bernie out with a Bat... Now that fan service.
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ONLY romantic relationship that Kira had.... erm... Kira basically stole everybody's girlfriend... and almost got involved with his own sister.... ZOMFG rclxub.gif

Shirt and panties Christina... WOOT wub.gif Now I don't think she'll need a bat to KO Bernie... Bernie would already be star struck when he sees Christina half naked...
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post Dec 11 2006, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Dec 11 2006, 10:10 AM)
not quite... Kira didnt steal Murrue,Lunamaria and Stellar. And he didnt exactly steal... Its just apparently any Girl who interact with Kira very likely to beroth from her current boyfriend and the boyfriend can do nothing about cos Kira.. I mean Jesus Yamato will smite them to holy dust and puke holy water.

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I still cannot forgive Tomato for doing whatever shit to Sai, the spectacled geek. Banging your gf and still pin you to the ground? shakehead.gif Sai deserves much better... He should cut some wires from the Strike back then tongue.gif

Oh yeah... Christina is added to the HOT list of gundam girls... to hell with adolescent chicks sad.gif
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post Dec 11 2006, 05:37 PM

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Athrun.... it was the girls who mobbed him... not his fault tongue.gif

I still don't understand why Kira and Athrun got so many attention from the CE girls, when clearly both of them are in love with each other dry.gif

Forget about CE... I am going to enjoy good old UC action... thumbup.gif
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post Dec 12 2006, 12:45 AM

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I actually like the old style of animation laugh.gif For example 0080's water coloured backgrounds... Zeta movie's remade scenes are great too. I don't mind newer CG backgrounds, esp those like episode 1 of Stargazer... OOOHHH.... THE MENACING GINN... GLITTERING IN THE RAIN !!

Unicorn is only a novel ler... sad.gif And the unicorn looks like a pumped-up GM
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post Dec 12 2006, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Dec 12 2006, 03:14 PM)
-CCA same like 0083.. I like how the beam saber is decipted here, It feel more like a Minosky saber than a Starwars light saber.

-F91 WTFBBQPWN OMFG L337 the Animation is really slick, You can see a huge diff from the Jegans in CCA and here.

sigh.. i miss the old days of Gundam

request for Bandai Please remake ZZ to suit the new Zeta movie ending. ZZ is suffering from poor story line.
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CCA... No qualms about the animation, only the final part where Sazabi wields his twin beam sabres... Helicopter hands look funny biggrin.gif

F91.... Superb.... Love the part where they took on the Rafflesia... Really exciting and slick.... And the background soundtrack for the Cosmo Babylonia.... Macam Star Wars...

Turn A's animation look good too, although I haven't seen the entire series yet.

When did CE have this kind of fast motion action scenes? All we had was static beam shots... BOOM... *resists CE bashing mode*

ZZ... maybe quite hard for them to remake it, unless they throw away all the kanak kanak stuff?
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post Dec 12 2006, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Dec 12 2006, 08:43 PM)
CE.. well does the Kira/Athrun manuver around and shoot inaccurately counts that been recycle for many duels in the whole show counts?
That? Fast paced action? I doubt... those are boring... Meh... Spamming is not fighting... One-sided duels where Kira/Athrun gets nothing scratched is not exciting either... whistling.gif

Linear gun tank vs GINN in ep1 of Stargazer is not bad though. Another exciting duel would be Heavyarms vs Tallgeese in Antartica... thumbup.gif
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post Dec 13 2006, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(ahhann @ Dec 13 2006, 01:12 AM)
Heavyarms vs Tallgeese in Antartica is in Gundam Wing

they got one GOD like Heiro as well =_=" ....
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To be honest, I prefer Heero to God Tomato. I used to dislike Heero due to his monotonous robotic personality, but when you analyse his character and his background, you will slowly appreciate how he is portrayed. Heero is actually more human than Trowa, now Trowa is the ultimate terminator with absolutely no feelings at all. At least Heero showed emotions towards Relena at the end.

Kira was much more enjoyable in the beginning of GS... but it went downhill when he realised that he could play GOD towards the end of GS, and eventually evolved into God Tomato in GSD.

Duo is the best main character in GW. Cheeky he might be, but he has a dark past which he is trying to hide under his ever smiling face and goofy character. Read episode Zero of GW, or just wiki for his background to find out. Quatre is too wimpy, while WuFei is insane with his quest for honour.

I wish the newer gundam series would include more details about the main character's background. GSD, despite having loads of crap inside, have characters which had the potential to be elaborated, eg the relationship between Gilbert and Talia, Heine, and most importantly the enigmatic Rey.
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post Dec 14 2006, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(Zeroth @ Dec 14 2006, 12:38 AM)
He must be Char or....Sciroco? They should let Destiny crash on Strike Freedom at the end, and Shinn ended up like Camille. Then the next anime should be Double Seed, Gundam SS or Athrun's Counterattack!! XD Hehehe..just kidding
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Double Seed.... You just made my day biggrin.gif

Lacus will be the new HAMAN !! MUAHAHA... pink haired PSYCHO !!!
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post Dec 14 2006, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Dec 14 2006, 05:48 PM)
Haman is cruel, devious and cunning Lacus is kind, compassionate, sincere.

Hahahaha Jesus cant even own 3 Zaku Warrior without his precious Freedom.
Lacus? Kind? Compassionate? Sincere? I see none of these traits... I see platonic and boredom in Lacus tongue.gif Meh... I don't want seemingly perfect, angelic, and innocent characters like Lacus... I want realistic people with emotions... Hmph...

Tomato can't do shit without Freedom... He got owned even in a Strike, but when he got bling bling, he chopped everybody's arms. CHEH... this is the power of the mecha, not the pilot...

A truly great pilot can own everything with anything, even a big fat jumbo jet biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Dec 19 2006, 10:32 AM)
besides tat the series i most lik gotta be gundam wing......with wing zero custom dropping feather everytime its open its wing....LOL.....lik the design of all the mecha very much in the wing series.... biggrin.gif
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*resists GSD and SF bashing*

now, moving on to GW...

I actually don't like the WZC with it's angel wings. For me, angel wings are very fake. I can accept bird-like wings of the V2 since it's the Minovsky particles thingy that are shaped like wings, but feathers? HUH?

Ok, to be fair, the explanation for the wings are little thruster verniers, but I still feel weird about it.

I didn't really like Endless Waltz. The story was too simple, and the part where the Serpents fought the gundams were too fake. Millions of bullets were shooting at the gundams but non penetrated the armor. Oh well, even the in GW series this problem persisted. Otherwise Heero would have been killed by Zech's beam sabre in the Antarctica fight. The fight between Altron and Heero's Leo was good though, but WZC and Altron's fight was MEH... give up fighting halfway, and sink to the sea WTF?

GW's mecha designs are unique, but somewhat impractical. Let's put aside the godly Wing. Deathscythe, Shenlong, and Sandrock were pure melee mechas, while Heavyarms is a long range shooter. And they never fought together to complement each other. And Epyon is a joke even though 30m beam sabre is WOOT !! No ranged weapons at all... A bunch of long range snipers would had killed it easily if not for the plot armor.

My favourite suit would be the Tallgeese. It's obsolete, yet totally kicked ass. I seriously loathe WMDs like the Wing's Buster rifle or TG3's Mega Cannon... Good old shell shooting DoberGun rocks !!
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QUOTE(tan_pang @ Dec 19 2006, 03:36 PM)
"Millions of bullets were shooting at the gundams but non penetrated the armor"

of coz la, with the Phase shift armor
how to penetrate the gundam with only bullet??

btw, i also dunno why Kira cant control the Strike well
leg broken easily with Strike...
but when Strike Freedom, super god like... shakehead.gif
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GW mana ada phase shift? Gundanium alloy only ler tongue.gif
Phase shift aint godly either. A huge enough force will still be able to damage the mecha, as shown with Freedom's head when it got twacked by the druggies.

About the Strike... well, it HAD to be dummified to show how "good" SF is... this is Fukuda's style... dummify everyone else to show how powerful a new mecha is. Even for IJ... it ain't much improvement over the old Justice, just additional beams sabres from every orifice... yet it pwned everyone.

Hell with GSD and Tomato God... Whole of GSD can't even showcase a good choreographed fight....

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QUOTE(tan_pang @ Dec 19 2006, 05:03 PM)
btw, someone tell me that the gundam color decide how hard the armor will be in GS
if the color of the gundam is darker, then the armor will be harder
but if the color is ligher, then the armor will be easier to penetrate, but the speed will be faster...
The color of the Phase shift is supposed to be a decoration tongue.gif

OK, according to GSD.... The episode where Tomato asks the Archangel's engineer to configure Cagali's Strike Rouge for him... Tomato's Strike appears blue-white-red because of variation in the Phase Shift strength. It seems that the blue-red-white scheme has a stronger (or was it weaker? not sure) Phase Shift than the Rouge.

In my interpretation... BULLSHIT... Tomato can't bear to pilot a pink robot, so he decides to change the color....

One thing though, I don't understand why EA's newer mechas never utilise the Trans Phase Shift which is supposed to be more efficient and more energy saving. Stupid EA... got new technology also dunno how to use.

Same case with ZAFT. Where did the Nuclear Stampeder go? Why wasn't it used in the final battles? It owned everyone early in the series. Oh I forgot... Tomato should pwn everyone, so there is no space for Stampeder... whistling.gif

QUOTE(angrim @ Dec 19 2006, 06:39 PM)
n the power of the beam weapons in GW seems to be too ridiculous. GW zero's twin buster riffle can destroy the entire colony in one shot. Aside from DX's satelite cannon and Turn-A, i have never seen any gundams capable of doing that. Still this cannot compare to the beam spamming aimbot Strike freedom, now with Dragoons, man i hate that mech.
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Beam weapons in AU are indeed godly. Twin Buster Rifle... Mega Cannon... Even gigantic Epyon beam sword... All of them destroy colonies in a blink of an eye.

At least it is better than dragoon spam by Tomato... Even Nu gundam doesn't spam despite having much superior funnel technology.
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^And how does the lighter colors help with the speed? I forgot what Tomato demanded back in the episode, maybe anyone who has the series can check it... It should be the ep where the infamous SF gets its stupid intro.
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Seriously, I can accept the bullshit explanation if the color of the armor does affect the strength of the phase shift. Since Phase Shift is an energy sapping technology, the pilot should be given the option of selecting a strength (hence color) that would suit his/her battle style. Eg: Maybe a melee fighter would need more armor to protect from point blank blasts.

However, if that is the case, why do different mechas have different colors? I mean let's say Strike and Duel. Both are assault mechas so they should probably use similar strengths of Phase Shift... That means the Duel should have the same colors as the Strike tongue.gif

Anyway, different colors should never affect the speed of the mecha shakehead.gif

Anyway... The colors are just decoration... Meh...

For CE specifically GSD, I really loathe the lack of innovative technology. Whereas in UC, we could follow the development of technology throughout the timeline. It started off with the normal RX78, later developed 360 degree screen, psychommu, psychoframe, bio sensor, reverse biosensor, biocomputer bla bla. OK, although some of them are really bullshit, but at least you can see the technological progress coupled with explanations. CE... Besides the huge improvement in newer mechas, eg NJC, Aimbot; these gimmicks were never widely utilised in the mechas apart from SF and IJ. EA's grunts should have used Trans Phase Shift, while the ZAKUs could have shared Aimbot tech. Don't even get me started on Tomato's developing newtype abilities... Newtypes shouldn't exist in CE.... Hmph....

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QUOTE(tan_pang @ Dec 20 2006, 09:39 AM)

but i dunno why Kira always use white and blue, Athrun also use red color...

impossible to undestructable la laugh.gif
Phase Shift Armor juz use to protect the gundam for simple beam attack only
like the bullet from rifle gun

but you give me a good example that the color is juz decoration
Gaia is black, but faster than other gundam
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Coz Kira is supposed to be CE's Amuro, while Athrun is supposed to be Char. Sad to say both of them failed to live up to the predecessor's fame.

Imagine Char shouting Amuro's name with affection when he was shot down... YUCKS... Athrun didn't even give a hoot when his gf was shot down, yet screamed like a baby when Shinn took down Freedom tongue.gif

Wrong info again... Phase Shift protects against physical attacks, ie bullets, punches, solid blades and explosions, but beams pierce through phase shift easily. Beams can only be stopped by anti-beam coating (like shields) or well, beams themselves. Oh yeah, don't forget the godly PLOT ARMOR too.

Gaia? No official info shows that it is any faster than the other mechas, we can only assume that it is lightning quick in its doggie mode. Still it got kicked by Luna's lumbersome ZAKU in space. All major mechas is GSD are moving at lightspeed, eg Destiny and SF... VERY FAKE...

Even V2, supposedly the fastest accelerating gundam in UC didn't fly that fast in battle. In fact, with all the arsenal V2 has, it still faced difficulties when fighting the BESPA grunts, especially when it is outnumbered or ambushed.

V2 rocks... Too bad it didn't showcase much of its awesome weaponry.
Particle Cannon... Mega Cannon... Beam Sprayer... I-field like beam shield... Most incredible was the multi-purpose beam wings thumbup.gif
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post Dec 21 2006, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(tan_pang @ Dec 20 2006, 02:17 PM)
oops, that is beam saber...
really make a mistake... tongue.gif
soli notworthy.gif
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hehe... physical attacks include all things which are not beams...

Why didn't any of the CE mechas trade punches? Sazabi and Nu got into a brawl, while Victory loved using karate kicks tongue.gif
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QUOTE(angrim @ Dec 21 2006, 09:54 PM)
CE mechas tend to abuse beam weapons and all those "flashy effect" attacks. they sux at doing melee type of attack, how often u see the mechs doing some beam sabre battles? the only few mechs that often goes melee that i notice is still destiny gundam and IJ. the rest = beam spammers. oooh, look at all those colorful lights......
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Well, let's put aside the beam spams in CE. Even in duelling, CE mechas, especially main characters, tend to do it this way:

Pilot X: Y !!! ARRRGGGHHH
Pilot Y: X !!! YEAHHHHHHH

X mecha flies towards Y, and vice versa.

Clashing of sabres ONCE... yes, ONCE....

X and Y are rebounded miles away due to the impact of the sabre clash.

Pilot X: thrash talk for 1 minute
Pilot Y: flashback... for 5 minutes

repeats clashing as mentioned above

within one second, X chops off Y's arm (or stab cockpit)....

THE END...

WTF? This kind of duelling? tsk tsk tsk... Only Freedom vs Impulse avoided ending up this way, but that was because Freedom had to lose.

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Dec 24 2006, 05:48 PM)
yeah, rifle to rifle, sword to sword and traditonal fist... really close fight from both side.
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But the Sazabi got thrashed too easily... Two hooks from Nu, one tug and the wires all patah liao... and Char had to eject. sad.gif Still a good rough brawl though...

Man, Char is really suffering from baddie syndrome, where he MUST get twacked by the protagonist Amuro no matter how good he is portrayed. Wait, that's not correct... His Hyaku got pwned by megamad newtype psychos Paptimus and Haman too...

Poor Char... At least his GW spawn Miliardo owned more units...

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