Relena seems like another Lacus, but if you really analyse her background and conflicts she does have a bit of Cagalli's shadow.

After Sanq kingdom was restored by Zechs, she was installed as the ruler of her country because Zechs felt guilty for his military ways which conflicted with Peacecraft's ideals. Noin, being the lovesick heroine, stuck by Relena and aided her in her ruling of the country using peaceful ways. Despite her attempts to avoid war (hence upholding the Peacecraft name), Relena proved to be just another symbol of power, instead of having real authority.

Romfeller attacked Sanq and established their own faction with brute force, and after succeeding, they elected Relena as their political representative to show their "peaceful" intention. However Romfeller was easily defeated by Treize's new toys, then the story arc shifted to Miliardo's White Fang vs Treize's OZ/Earth remnants. From there onwards Relena's role diminished since her role was based mainly on Earth.

Relena wasn't a very well written character, but she surely ain't as irritating and preachy as Lacus is. At least she is still human and faces situations which she has control of.

The best twist in GW happened when OZ entered space and won over the colonies, which the Gundams were supposed to represent and fight for. Talk about being backstabbed by the very ones you are supposed to protect. Without that part, GW would have been a very plain boring SRW-pwn-all anime. In the end, it turned out to be yet another Char's Counter Attack... I simply didn't like the change in Miliardo's character, but since he is the exact replica of Char there's little difference to expect.

Noin, on the other hand, is a pitiful character which went unappreciated throughout the story. She was supposed to be the right hand person of Zechs, yet her role was lesser than other female side characters such as Emma and Reccoa.

Overall I prefer W over X although X has much better grunts which don't blow up like fireworks whenever a breeze blows by. X's storyline is too weak and lacks focus, and we get one villain-of-the-day in every episode.

Seed is not based on W... it's a parody of UC.
OO however will sound like a cheesier, kiddy version of W.
Prove me wrong Sunrise, prove me wrong.

Do you know why I know girls like GW more than GS? My sis simply adores it. And considering that my sis's HDD is filled with all that mucky Yaoi (I had the nightmare mistake of copying her anime collection and had to gouge my eyes after that), she's a perfect example of a female anime watcher. GAH!! THE YAOI!!!
Anyways, I do feel that GW had just enough elemant of Bishi that is balanced with a true gundam world that cannot be emulated by GS, which IMO seems a more blantant attempt of selling their product. Looking back, Destiny killed anything that was good in Gundam Seed. Shinn Asuka was supposed to be the antihero, we are suppose to like him as he has all this angst. But HE WAS f***ING ANNOYING! There was nothing good that I can find in his characther. Unlike Kira "I am Jesus" Yamato who fought for what he believed was right but will admit his mistake, Shinn was like Suzaku of Code Geass. "Fight for what I believe him" was his motto to make right all of his decision, even if it was really orders by the higher up. He has no backbone, heck, i doubt that he even have a penis. Compare that to Heero Yui, a pilot that don't even need a space suit, rectify his own bone after it was broken, HE WAS THE ULTIMATE MALE EGO that both male and female can relate. He don't complain, he just do his job and GTFO.

I dont have a clue what you trying to point out, GW sucks? Destiny sucks or Shinn sucks?? or all at once.

I believe Shinn end up the way it is due to poor chara development by the writer. The writers simply cast him aside and make him all emo, So he would be the hated chara.

I been covering this part like 1000x.. and i just dont have the will anymore to do it again.

I honesly feel dissapointed on how Shinn turn out. He had pontential, I mean atleast he show emotion ( maybe to much), he has happy times and sad moment. Like i said many times, This is what make a chara human. Having a straight face and do everything without feeling is NOT HUMAN like Jesus.

Ah hell, why bring in GSD when the discussion is based on GW

Anyway... UNICORN !!! Pics are kinda big though, so don't cringe if it takes some time to load.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8876/ga070703qw0.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2615/ga070704sq4.jpg

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jun 25 2007, 01:09 PM

Sigh... its in japanese. I so wanna read Unicorn.. damm.

Well there's the chinese translation if you want

meanwhile... is Victory THAT small?

well..ya more GW grunts blows up illogicly....
but they still have Freaking MD that can pwn the gundam pilot easily...(even though later they become less powerful,but hey i like it when they first appeared...)

yup that part was greatly pictured...

well...i think thats what they planned to do...to make trowa into the reference on how a gundam pilot in GW is suppose to be to and let the audience compare with the other pilots....
but atleast he developed abit during the time he lost his memories....

lol...i see the title of chapter 7 of unicorn is "Red Meteor"!!!
so this full frontal guy even have the same nickname as Char!!??

Why not its possible.

Remember during F91, The Crossbone develop compact MS which were smaller, faster and more efficent MS. smaller frame meaning more output on vernier, more power for beam weaponary and alot more mobile.

It was mention by Seabook that the MS are so fast, beam weapons are useless.

So assuming Victory follow the compact MS standard so there you have it.

HE IS A CHAR !!

And maybe Garma got resurrected with a new perm Check out the small pic there ahaha...

Maybe Unicorn want to go CE where characters miraculously revive

I know

I was referring to the model kits They look small when put side by side.

Big bulky Nightingale i like
http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~aag94480/gallery/ms...MSN-04-2-01.jpg

.. woah now that some huge ass Sazabi. Nah i still like the original sazabi.

hi-nu gundam wif Nightingale as background

http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~aag94480/gallery/ms.../RX-93-2-02.jpg

if onli nightingle comes out in mg, it would be a perfect pair to Hi-Nu, like Sazabi & Nu, but then again, the size would be twice bigger than the sazabi right?

i watched the first few episodes of ZZ, Lt. Yazan from the previous series doesn't make much of an appearences

This post has been edited by boltguard: Jun 25 2007, 11:05 PM

too bad both also only appear in novel, and Unicorn will share the same fate i guess

Yeah...love the Hi-Nu. Waiting for the Nightingale MG 1/100 to come out.

Rumours are after Turn A gundam which is MG no. 100, will be MG Destiny.

Stay tuned.

It depends on the popularity of the novel. AOZ is so well known that it has several HGUC kits, and an MG Hazel is just a matter of time. After all there's already the GM Quel and MKII frame ready for the Hazel.

Nevertheless, I doubt we will see a Unicorn kit soon, be it an HGUC or an MG. OO is the new milking cow and surely Bandai would want to cash in on that like how they did with the CE series.

MG Nightingale, The O, etc are probably distant dreams despite their popularity. They're simply too big, whereas they are also relatively unknown compared to other giant kits like Zeong. Then again, who knows?

Back to Unicorn... Everybody say hello to the RED BLING !!


I'm drooling all over the keyboard already...

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jun 26 2007, 02:25 PM

OH SHI-!! MY EYES!!!!!
It needs more blue.

OMG...Unicorn suddently become a not so tame looking mecha ...it looks menacing.....

btw...i wonder whats full frontal mecha is like?? more Red Bling than unicorn perhaps....

Looks wicked....DESTROY MODE.....

can go berserk like ALICE in EX-S gundam and Blue Destiny's EXAM system?
XD

This post has been edited by wolfx: Jun 26 2007, 05:21 PM

it's a possible situation...cuz we're not quite sure what LAPLACE program will do....

This post has been edited by tsubasa89: Jun 26 2007, 08:04 PM