ANd now even gundam has gone into the "Zero" naming mentality.
Anime Gundam v4, gandam jiro jiro discuss here as well
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Looks like a new AU to me.
ANd now even gundam has gone into the "Zero" naming mentality. |
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Jun 2 2007, 08:03 PM
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Jun 10 2007, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 10 2007, 12:14 AM) I agree.. atleast UC tries to explain how the technology works while Seed just jumble some mambo jambo. Actually CE explains all their "mumbo jumbo" as well in the mangas, novels and extra materials. You think they explained all that boring physics lessons in MSG the anime?  They explained alot of stuff from development of the DRAGOON system , how the N-Jammer and NJammer Canceller works, beam weaponry, and phase-shift technologies etc. QUOTE Well to make it simple. Minosky is Helium^3. Its believe is able to harness huge amount of energy in such a small reactor. hence it powers the ships and mobile suits. Such quantities is to little on earth therefore all minosky are obtain at Jupiter. Jupiter is a neutral zone where both faction are allowed to get Minosky without attacking each other. To be precise, its hydrogen that they are getting from Jupiter that the minovksy nuke reactor uses for its fuel. Unlike Gundam Seed, the nuke reactor in UC is limited as it requires hydrogen to create fusion reaction that generates energy for the mobile suit. Current day we are using plutonium as the fuel for our nuke reactors. In CE, the N-Jammer Canceller counters the N-Jammer by causing nuclear reaction through fission, thus theoretically having an unlimited source of power without the use of any fuel. |
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Jun 10 2007, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 10 2007, 12:25 PM) Yeah but later on esp Seed Destiny thing get to out of hand. Like explain me how their beam shield works.. Its like Terminal and Zaft conjure it out from thin air? Its in the Astray manga. Hyperion Gundam was the 1s MS with the technology to create a shield out of beam energy called the Armure Lumiere. http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/xastray/cat1-x1-3.htm The technology was later implemented into the Strike Freedom and I-Justice. QUOTE Ok then what the purpose of a Dom.. how does it fusion beam and bazoka in 1 weapon. What does Jet Stream attack actually do.. This is not explained. Apparently they just do a coordinated attack and kill everything in their path, with lack of animation. Dunno about fusion beam + bazooka. Maybe its 2 different weapons?QUOTE Since u know about the Dragoon.. I wanna ask The Dragoon system work on newtype only right?? So does it means its a limited system?? Is Kira a newtype?? Yes. The DRAGOON (Disconnected Rapid Armament Group Overlook Operation Network) system was 1s used and tested on Dreadnaught Gundam and then installed on Providence Gundam, both used by "Newtype Clones". But the Strike Freedom has a better psychommu system that allows normal users to use the DRAGOONS, something like INCOMS in Gundam Sentinel........the Strike Freedom features eight DRAGOON (Disconnected Rapid Armament Group Overlook Operation Network) units. The DRAGOON units housed in the wings utilize an improved quantum communications system, allowing normal pilots without expanded spatial awareness to use them. source: http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/seed-destiny/zgmf-x20a.htm QUOTE Also CE rush all technology in 1 shot like as if it was a Golden age. From 1 end it was basic battery and conventional weapons then out of the blue WTF transformable MS, beam weapons, MS with shit loads of firepower, beam shield and big ass cannons from no where. And so was from MSG to Zeta Gundam. The technologies between the 2 were quite leaps and bounds as well. Alot of it were not explained in the anime itself. From your posts, i assume you don't read the comics or other stuff so that's why you think the tech in Destiny seem to appear from nowhere. Neither did I actually but I wikipedia alot. QUOTE Read Starghazzer post above me... Its Helium not Hydrogen. Yur right. Its Helium. I got my H-isotopes mixed up. I meant to say in UC, the nuclear reactors require fuel (helium-3) whereas in CE, the reactors are self sustaining.Nuclear is not limited, Its totally not available thanks to N Jammers. N Jammer prevent isotopes to combust therefore nuclear phailed. NJC just does the opposite. |
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Jun 10 2007, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 10 2007, 07:24 PM) Omfg the Quebely exoskeleton look like a pterosaurs( The flying dinosaurs) Yeap. No la everyone has an opinion. Just dun flame each other can liow. For me.. I dont quite like Seed but i dont force my opinion into people but i hate it when people says that UC is no better than CE or CE > UC.   I prefer UC simply because it has better shows under its belt than CE. Not because of the pseudo science mumbo jumbo. And about what u said about "how does beam shield work in CE" it is assumed the technologies in CE and UC are similar in terms of beam weaponry, minovsky particles etc so they don't feel compelled to explain it again. The explanation would be quite redundant anyway if you wanna explain "how come when 2 beam saber collide, they won't go through each other like light should" blablabla. |
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 10 2007, 11:48 PM) I try to answer this.. My explanation is kinda rough You see when the both saber clash, The ions in the saber produce opposing charges hence causing each saber producing resistance. Actually its because the beam saber creates an I-field that contains the beam energy into a shape of a sword. As you know, the I-field is anti-beam, it is not impervious to physical attacks. So by hitting the saber on something, the I-field is penetrated and the target is hit by the beam, effectively cutting it. So when 2 beam sabers collide, very simply, both I-fields collide so they don't go through each other. My beam hit your I-field, your beam hit my I-field , thus its like the swords are hitting each other.This is why i like CCA interpreration of the beam saber. Its not cosistant shape making more like particle form of particles than a light saberish block. Read this wiki reference for more interesting Gundam UC technology. (apparently its all written by a japanese school student to lure techno geeks into Gundam during the old days. Obviously all this mumbo jumbo isn't mentioned in the anime at all) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beam_saber Added on June 11, 2007, 12:19 am QUOTE(Guyver @ Jun 11 2007, 12:02 AM) You can't simply say that since both of the series are around the same in the storyline and then you expect everyone know what is beam saber, what is Minovsky Particles and Minovsky Physics. CE is mean to be the remake of the UC, aren't they should explain everything??? I can simply say that because UC never ever mentioned the stuff in their anime. I keep telling you guys who keep saying "CE SUX CUZ THE TECH IS ZOMG MAGIC APPEARANCE IN SEASON 2" that the development of the weapons are told outside of the anime, just like in the original Gundam. Its really silly to argue that CE should explain their tech just like UC did because all these common terms like Minovksy Particles and Beam Sabers etc are just the same. Maybe they should even explain "Why use bipedal robots in space....LOL and why the beam rifle got CHIU CHIU sound in space" while we're at it.  Anyway if any Gundam show is guilty of simply throwing out technology without explanation, it would be Gundam Wing and G-Gundam........  This post has been edited by wolfx: Jun 11 2007, 12:19 AM |
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Jun 11 2007, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Jun 11 2007, 02:14 AM) Well in CE they isnt much supplement data to explain their stuff also u know.. You still havent explain about the omfg huge technology leap in 1 year and half. The mangas and sumplement data dont cover alot of that.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cosmic_Era_technology Read more on CE's weapons development and you will know its not 1 year and a half. Even before the events of Seed, the Dragoon and Beam shields etc are already in development. But granted its not as slow as UC's tech growth. Example: The beam shield technology is just the same as a beam saber just that the I-field's shape is expanded over a more wide area. I dun see why they should take 50 years to develop something that is similar. You have to remember Gundam UC is a franchise built on ....what 20 years? Any new anime that came out that time will be about UC and to keep it "new" they have to leap 10-20 years into UC and introduce new weapons to keep it fresh. CE is a new franchise built on top of the existing Gundam franchise.....so there's no reason why they should take 6-7 anime series later to have the same weapon development time as UC. QUOTE Why are you defending CE so much anyway.. You got an issue or something?? I'm not defending CE la. I'm just tired to see how the UC fanboys justify their "UC > CE" because CE's tech is "ZOMG MAGICAL APPEARANCE IN SEASON 2". Or "CE's characters more emo than UC's". There are alot of cheesy stuff i can point out in UC similar to what CE is accused off but i think most of the arguments that UC > CE are just due to fanboyism.I won't say UC > CE or vice versa. UC had 20 years of thought put into it and the technology was only explained in 2003 whereas the franchise was created in 1981. That's 22 years for them to cook up any supporting materials they want. CE only had 3-4 years and they already have this much supporting materials. Its only fair to judge CE objectively rather than just bashing it due to nostalgia. This is just like how the old fans of star wars hate episode 1,2,3 just cause 4,5,6 were the original. But i totally agree Seed Destiny was pretty suck. |
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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Jun 11 2007, 08:46 AM) I love this... a bunch of guys fighting over fictional weapon systems and technology... what could be better???? Wait till you see starwar fans and trekkies arguing about lightsabers, the force, and disruptor shields. Btw, who knows, such technology might become reality after all.  QUOTE If anyone thinks fanboyism is bad, wait till you see my friend <snip>  I feel afraid of your friend already. At least worship also worship Lelouch la...not Kira yamato. PS: Is your friend a girl? |
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Jun 11 2007, 12:07 PM
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Not making anyone STFU la. This is all just friendly discussion.
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The point i was trying to make is UC is an old franchise. If you expect the same level of depth to be done in CE within 2 years, you're expecting the impossible. Anyway......
I read stuff on gundam.anime.net when it was up. Alot of gundam wiki references seem to be from there now. Btw, Macross > Gundam.  This post has been edited by wolfx: Jun 11 2007, 02:17 PM |
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QUOTE(tam_ironcup @ Jun 12 2007, 08:08 PM) im curious, why use ships if a gundam can just anihiliate it like a bug? why not just send in a whole fleet of supah pwered pilots with super powered ultimate motha f***inchuntet mobile suits instead of wasting money on develping battleships? althought i admit, when wathicng my first evah gundam series which is seed, that the ship was kinda cool What starghazer said. Just like today's naval battle, you can't have the whole skies ruled by fighter jets. They need a base, a place to refuel and rearm, hence the carriers and the various destroyers and corvettes in the fleet. |
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Lots of images of Gundam00.
http://www.famitsu.com/anime/news/2007/06/...,73434,0,0.html I like the transformable one, Kyrios. The Dynames seem to be semi Zaku inspired with the shoulder shield. Gunota QUOTE Also revealed: The Union seems to encompass both North and South America plus Japan while the AEU is also in control of Africa. GN-001 Gundam Exia Head height: 18.3m Base weight: 57.2 tons Screen details: "Because of the GN particles eminating from the GN Drive within the unit, it has astounding mobility and near infinite energy. Compared to currently-in-use MS, it introduces a great deal of high technology." Addition info from Dengeki's write-up: "A close-combat, high-mobility MS equipped with 7 blades." "The GN particles eminated into the air cause radio wave interference and disrupt ordinary radar and communications." Setsuna F. Seiei 16-years-old Screen details: "Fated boy soldier born & raised in the war-torn Middle East's Kurdis Republic. A cool kid who hates getting close to others and keeps his feelings inside." GN-002 Gundam Dynames Head height: 18.2m Base weight: 59.1 tons Screen details: "Same as the other Gundams, equipped with a GN Drive. It's emphasis is gun warfare. Has many guns suitable for missions and a GN Sniper Rifle as standard equipment." Addition info from Dengeki's write-up: "When it carries out precision shooting, the head transforms into Sniper Mode with a concealed camera eye appearing. During that time, a rifle-style controller is used." Lockon Stratos 24-years-old Screen details: "Decided to join Celestial Being after losing his parents because of terrorism. The eldest pilot and team leader." GN-003 Gundam Kyrios Head height: 18.9m Base weight: 54.8 tons Screen details: "Variable unit that can transform into a flight form. In its flight form, it has a rear arms container and can deal with every mission with versatility." Addition info from Dengeki's write-up: "While it excels at hit-and-run attacks in its flight form, even in its MS form it has offensive capabilities to match other Gundams." Allelujah Paptism 19-years-old Screen details: "Spent his childhood as an orphan in the People's Reform League. Usually gentle and quiet." GN-005 Gundam Virtue Head height: 18.4m Base weight: 66.7 tons Screen details: "Heavily armed type and has powerful weapons such as the GN Bazooka and GN Cannon. It expands the GN Field, covering itself with a barrier and has considerably high defense." Tieria Erde ?-years-old Screen details: "A boy with a rare kind of beauty, his history, nationality, and origins all a mystery. Within his gentle tone, he can give a sense of cold intentions." |
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QUOTE(james83 @ Jun 15 2007, 09:15 PM) is there such thing as combining robots in GSD?... Yeap....you didn't know?   |
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In all seriousness....its a fact that the whole Gundam franchise is built upon the model kits/toys. The anime is simply just an advertisment for the toys. It has been like this in 1981, and it remains the same till today. Its just a matter if the "advertising" is done too blatantly or not. Good example Gundam Seed/Seed Destiny towards the end of both shows, suddenly new Gundams appear everywhere and show up in the last 2 episodes only like Providence. Stargazer itself is just one big ad for the new toys IMHO.
So i don't find it surprising that the toys are being shown already before the anime. It has always been like that. Just hopefully the anime is good enough that we forget its marketing ploy for toys. |
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Girls love heero yui? I thought they love Duo more. Heero is a jerk.
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Jun 25 2007, 11:48 PM
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Yeah...love the Hi-Nu. Waiting for the Nightingale MG 1/100 to come out.
Rumours are after Turn A gundam which is MG no. 100, will be MG Destiny. Stay tuned. |
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Looks wicked....DESTROY MODE.....
can go berserk like ALICE in EX-S gundam and Blue Destiny's EXAM system? XD This post has been edited by wolfx: Jun 26 2007, 05:21 PM |
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Basically the same thing like Macross Plus' YF-21 brainwave interface. But don't know is it supposed to increase the unit's agility or something. Maybe its hardware aided "SEED MODE". Can happen at anytime and all.
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I was looking at the AoZ designs...i know nothing about AoZ. Someone gimme a summary in 30 words? I like Hazel and all, but the later designs seem to be like "Lets see how much armor we can attach onto one mobile suit....wheee!!
Seems like the more pages i flip, the more ridiculous the armor attachments get. One configuration they add as much as those "Shield Boosters" or whatever those things are onto the MS. Also have old suits with "fast packs" and weapon packs added on making them look fat and bulky. LOL. I like the Hazel but the later bulky versions just too silly. |
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