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 HONDA CIVIC Club V11, My VTEC goes BWAAAAAHH!!!!

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post Jul 12 2012, 05:15 PM

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dunno la... mebbe just stick to my current hatch... wanna jual oso manyak sayang man...
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post Jul 12 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 12 2012, 05:38 PM)
Keep the hatch, buy eg/ek 4 doors.
Plonk in B20B stock standard, run single layer gasket for 9.5-10CR. Maintain auto transmission (obvious reasons, daily driver mah). If got extra money, get crome and tune the low end for some serious torque. Sure fun one. of course, kena makan when vtek kicked in yo from other hondas, but that 60 foot launch, you will RULE!

As your parts wear out on the hatchback, buy new and pass the old ones to the EK/EG sedan.

Two cars without all the headache of maintanance.  icon_rolleyes.gif

I would have bought a hatch if not for the fact that most eg hatch all fakap already and the price to buy one is $$$$$.
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laugh.gif kinda have to sell the hatch to get a 4 door...

plan was to get a cheap ass 4 door and K20 the sucker... but....but... sayang la my hatch..hahhahaha



i wonder what a 4 EG/EK would behave like in track though...

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post Jul 13 2012, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:07 AM)
Hahahaha but he willing to lower down his price to 25k by putting in a standard b16b with b16a cams, standard intake and remove hondata. Others remain.

Any take on this?

What hatch you driving btw? Show some pics smile.gif
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if standard b16b with b16b cams and standard type r intake n TB with hondata...then id take it. or standard B16A with B16B cams with type r intake n hondata oso id still consider....actually if the hondata stays....id take it with almost any engine...HAHAHAHHAHAA.....but try n get a B18C GSR with hondata oso can.

just as a benchmark... a friend of mine bought an original EF9...B16A with endyn forged pistons...B18CR intake, tb, head and cams n valve train...YS1 with ATS 3,4,5... cusco clutch, tein HA... 16" enkei japan wheels...japan exhaust...and original factory fitted sunroof for 25k...this car was built by rochi.

my hatch is an EG... the one in my avatar

anyway...i clicked on the ad link again... came out as the car already sold?????????


Added on July 13, 2012, 2:01 am
QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 13 2012, 12:01 AM)
i can wait to feel the vtec kick! hope can match those lan c satria gsr tebo in my town! even my kelisa want to cucok bah,
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if those are ur "target" cars...then why are u buying a car with lower power?

VTECs may be awesome...but theyre not the best engine the world..if B16A... expect to kena tapau by the GSRs

QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 13 2012, 12:07 AM)
Kena cucuk tu dunno lah. I use quiet exhaust also people cucuk want to test power.
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one thing about driving a honda....it means ur driving around with a bullseye on ur back doh.gif

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post Jul 13 2012, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 13 2012, 12:41 PM)
Btw your friend got the EF9 for quite cheap right? When he bought the car?

Owh eg hatch... smile.gif and btw what do you mean by driving around with a bullsye at the back? yawn.gif
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i wouldnt say cheap...more like proper market price... there are alot of over priced civics lately....bought it about a year back.

bulls eye...meaning everyone is targetting u la... from protons to contis..other jap cars....even other hondas are targetting u.. hell i even kena cucuk by a stock kancil before doh.gif


QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 13 2012, 12:57 PM)
EK.. never liked the big headlamps at the front.
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same here... but for some reason the 4 door EKs have caught my attention lately.....but its more towards liking the back of the car (that has been converted to the 99spec) rather than the front...

EK hatch... until now i still cannot fully appreciate them....front or back or side or top or bottom.
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post Jul 13 2012, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 13 2012, 01:03 PM)
eeerrrrr.......

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post Jul 13 2012, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 13 2012, 04:24 PM)
IT's GONE!! lol with that price, I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did. tongue.gif
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damn.....u called???

ive always thought the DC2 would be the perfect replacement for the EG Hatch...

good boot space to carry my baby's stroller and other stuff....decent enough rear leg room for my wife to sit at the back with my baby...

while maintaining a 2 door sporty car which is track-worthy in one of the best handling FF-chassis for track days......



i actually love the custom panels in rywire's car... very top notch build quality...

ASC Speedmetal has always made badass stuff... would love to get me hands on one of their 3-point strut bars... sexy shit...

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Jul 13 2012, 05:01 PM)
Good news

Wheel bearing changed

bad News

Mechanic at SC accidently crash the car into the work station kerb. They say they will repair later
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wat items are damaged from the crash?
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post Jul 13 2012, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 13 2012, 09:46 PM)
thereabouts... if can nego lower then better...


id rather get this

or this B18CR EF

or this B16B EF

or try n nego this one

and since ur budget is 24k...u could take a look at THIS EG Hatch n see if its any good...

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post Jul 13 2012, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 13 2012, 11:02 PM)
Pahang weiii... Haahha first one he will give standard for 20k nego,

The second one sold already,

Third one in pahang wei...

4th one for 25k and its in pahang :/

Eg hatch sold already :/
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pahang osoooooo....i suggest u make the trip... a car this old ur gonna have to do lotsa legwork to find a decent one...
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post Jul 14 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 14 2012, 02:42 AM)
so nice.. my dolphin no VTEC one.
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btw bro....do u happen to have a dyno chart...u could cover up the numbers if ud like... i just wanna see the lines...

and since our setup almost similar engine wise (i.e. high comp with stock cams)... im wondering would u be confident enough to bring ur car into SIC for a good 2-3 hour open track day?

oh...n did u re-sleeve ur b20 block?



QUOTE(unitron @ Jul 14 2012, 03:25 AM)
Anybody know what it takes to get a DC5 exhaust manifold into an ES chassis?

Don't want to have to custom made a brand new exhaust to fit my K20A. I heard a DC5 exhaust manifold will fit with some changes. Anybody have experience or have friends with experience on this?
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damn...i was at my mechanic's workshop today....totally forgot to ask... he recently just completed a K20 swap into an ES this past week....
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post Jul 14 2012, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 14 2012, 09:06 PM)
No recent dyno charts lo, the last time I dyno my car was 4-5 years ago. paper dunno where already.

Setup also a bit changed since first swap, 2.7" (japanese strange sizing) kakimoto exhaust, and the recent addition of performer x. Haven't gotten around to tuning it yet though. Currently saving up for some cams.

And my compression and stroker is lower than yours. It's a B20B block with B18C internals.

As for track, I always want to go Sepang, but their open track days always on my working day. Working at east coast sucks.
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oh yeah...forgot about the B18c-R internals... so u get to rev higher for safer.

but even then...with the current setup... r u confident to bring it into sepang?
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post Jul 15 2012, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 15 2012, 06:06 PM)
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Civic+EF+M+-15489770.htm

Went to view this car. Everything still intact. Interior still in good condition. Last painted abt 5 years ago. Got all the floormats and seats still nice, dash still nice. Engine wise he is willing to give me a standard b16a with ys1, with ogura, with zeal coilovers, chipped ecu, and with emanage blue, for 25800. Mountings he just changed, linkage using ek9. Wiring under dash is messy but still good condition, body is in good condition only minor surface rusts.

Any comments or opinions? Please let me know!

Thanks for reading guys!
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i say go for it....if the car is in good condition then by all means....id say its ok...

finding one in good condition is hard enough....but to get the ogura, e-manage, linkage coilovers etc and especially the YS1....go for it

engine wise can be done later...but at least thats all u need to do... u already have the YS1 for a closer ratio...ogura..yum yum...e-manage will just need a retune if u upgrade...

with that kinda list in a good condition car...id say go for it


the only thing id do with the car is the J's racing spoiler and front lip...and i would also sell off that bumper and get one without any foglamp (might even make some money too)... i used to have that bumper and hated it coz the foglamps always misalign..and theyre actually pretty useles....not bright at all...even in the fogs of genting....unnecessary weight to the car.

at most id get the one with the round foglamps and use the foglamp holes for cold air intake hoses.

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post Jul 16 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(ReidenLing @ Jul 15 2012, 10:28 PM)
wanna ask you guys ...what exhaust system nice...extractor i havent look at it but currently i studying on exhaust....Neither Spoon N1 or 5Zigen Fireball for my baby  hmm.gif  coz previous owner install apexi trumpet and i cant stand along with it  doh.gif
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for header go for the Skunk2 Alpha.. about RM1.8k and for ur B16A.. 2.3" with single bullet and 5Zigen Border 304 Speed.. aka the one with the Race Only (RO) tag. brows.gif

best muffler for VTECs imho... the sound is so addictive

my setup is a custom 4-1 header with 2.5" pipe, single bullet... no muffler (cutout open aka loud mode) or Spoon Street muffler (cutout closed aka Silent mode)

QUOTE(GeNez @ Jul 16 2012, 09:07 AM)
Wah! All Bseries Fanboys here... no one layan Kseries engine? even FN2R kaki also so little.... sigh.
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coz the K20A-R engine is expensive... believe me i wish i had the K in my hatch...hahahahah

no FN2-R groups on facebook? i thought theres one right?

wats yer list of mods and how much power u making?

QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 16 2012, 10:50 AM)
http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Eg6+k20a-14999928.htm

is it worth the money? 60k bah itu
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considering the list of mods.. yeah id say pretty worth it...but hes been trying to sell that car for a LOOOONNNGGG time already... problem with K-swaps is that its not easy selling the car with the K in it.. not many people have that kinda cash in hand... best is to sell the engine and go back to B series for an easier sale. either that.. or sell the car at the car's normal market price...not taking the cost of the engine into account.
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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 16 2012, 01:26 PM)
Me and my friend swapping in a K engine in EG.
Doing "Plug and Pray™" harness while my friend swapping out maintainance bits in the K20a like valve cover gasket and seals.

Me stuck with my old b20b. Maybe in 5-6years time I'll swap to K series.


Added on July 16, 2012, 1:33 pm

I have the RO tag Border. Noisy like F**K.
You forgot to mention one more exhaust. Buddy Club Spec II exhaust. It's worse than Border 304.

Skunk 2 alpha a bit more muted in my opinion, but still got the distinct "praaaangg" sound.
Got cutout some more. Street racing ka? whistling.gif

I have 3 sets of exhaust, the border 304, the dc2 standard exhaust and the kakimoto one on my B20B.
About K series swap, most people aren't doing it yet, the only ones doing it now, even though increasing in numbers are still pioneers/early birds.

Here also B series took quite long for people to catch on due to their high entry price. Anyone remember the B16B halfcuts at 20+K long time ago?
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laugh.gif noisy is the name of the game for VTECs HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

skunk2 alpha i meant the header only... never bothered to find out about the rest of the system...hahhaha...

there was a dyno test done on HT.... the skunk2 was consistent throughout.. vs some other replica headers like toda n hytech...it didnt come up tops.. but still pretty consistent and decent numbers.

n i love my cutout.. done by the ex-owner...superbly functional... only problem is when ur travelling next to a wall on ur right with the cutout open...the sound really bounces back to u...lovely...but deafening at the same time..laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Mediocre2 @ Jul 16 2012, 02:13 PM)
Cutout meaning can hear that distinctive vtec kick in sound? Hahah how to get that?
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exhaust cut out basically allows u to have a quiet and loud setup whenever u want...

QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 16 2012, 02:38 PM)
cutout meaning the exhaust exit after the header before the muffler.
Arospeed makes an exhaust cutout valve that's available locally.

Me, sudah bosan dengar itu vtec bunyi. now quiet only.. huhuhuhu
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one thing i dont like about the aerospeed cutout is that when closed...its not 100% sealed... theres still a "ring" around the flap that allows the exhaust gas/noise to pass through...



anyway...heres a vid of mine.. pic of it in the vid as well


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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 16 2012, 02:54 PM)
The loss seems significant because of the L bend I think.
Still looks good. I still prefer peace and quiet though.  whistling.gif
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could also be bcoz it was just 1 single run (usually best to get 2-3 runs for a better average)...that n also 2.5" going into a 2.3" muffler...

but it does feel heavier and less rev-happy with the cutout closed...

anyway....after engine put back together, gonna get crome-d and will prolly do another comparison with a few runs instead of just 1...
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MSD external coil first or walbro fuel pump first...

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QUOTE(ReidenLing @ Jul 16 2012, 08:08 PM)
Header 4-2-1...??so normally where should i buy...used condition or new 1... hmm.gif coz i see new like er replica 1  biggrin.gif
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4-2-1..brand new RM1.8k from my mech... can check with chris at pentagon racing for his prices since hes the official distro for skunk2
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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 16 2012, 09:05 PM)
Management first.. huhuhuhuhu
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crome considered management wat tongue.gif

wanna get one of those and tune the crome with it....just not sure which...

QUOTE(Throttle @ Jul 16 2012, 09:17 PM)
wudd do u mean by this?? hehe noob a little blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
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google for toda vtec killer cams drool.gif
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QUOTE(GeNez @ Jul 17 2012, 08:23 AM)
There is a FN2R group on facebook but it's a closed group and the admin not approving me. Guess my FN2 not FN2 enough for them?

--potong--

Next would be the Air Intake system. Considering GruppeM but it's blardy expensive man... rm3k for a bloody air intake. Any other suggestions?
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contacted the admins??

this is a picture of my friend's air intake setup on his DC5

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custom air ram and heatshield by GME Racing (powdercoated blue) with 6" Blitz SUS Stainless Steel filter....i personally dont bother with branded intake systems... i might care about the brand of the filter only though....

but as long as the air ram is well designed n does not obstruct the flow of air.. its all good.

anyway...my friend's intake system (pictured above) is for sale, not sure sold or not...if interested drop me a PM and ill pass u his number.


QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jul 17 2012, 12:12 PM)
Then again. I like the stock airbox of the k series.
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at least for us if we go k-swap we can just place the filter behind the passenger side headlamp and away from the heat..heheheheheh

anyway... since ur on S300... ever done any research into the costing for a Hondata CPR setup?

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