Since Suarez is now charged, it mean FA have some kind of evidence/witness. If the evidence is as rock solid as what Evra claim, I doubt the FA took so long to charge Suarez if we compare to Terry. Terry case was later than Suarez but the charge is much much sooner.

Lets compare Suarez and Terry case:
1) Video evidence - there are claims of video capturing Terry used racist words, is there any for Suarez? None from public so far

2) Witness - there are fans complain on Terry using racist words, is there any for Suarez? Again, none from public

3) Victim itself - A.Ferdinand leave it to FA, he say he didnt heard the words himself. Evra claim Suarez say the "racist" words at least 10 times, and referee Andre Mariner heard at least some of it. A.Mariner already explain he did not know anything until after final whistle.

So far, there are no evidence other than Evra mouth himself and also a public backing from Ferguson. So, did FA really have evidence or they charge Suarez just as a warning to others (no tolerance to racism). So if Suarez was found innocent, FA can claim the case as lacked of evidence. This will give both Evra and Suarez a stage to "step down". If there are no charges at all, there will be huge uproar of asking Evra to be ban, and the campaign of anti-racist will be affected.

From what I see, Suarez is just being sacrificed as a scapegoat. My 2 cent

LOL
why are u given an elite tag?

I think it's because u might have a good contribution in pet's wonderland.

alla bro...its cause not everyone as sensitive as you laaaa.

besides, everything that i posted is truth..or has some degree of truth to it at least. heh

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Added on November 17, 2011, 11:04 ambro...22 players on the pitch la, why need public to report then only confirmed? as for CLLC JT, public complain because he was caught on camera saying it.

This post has been edited by radio_head: Nov 17 2011, 11:04 AM

I just had to butt in here. The thing with JT is he’s probably the most hated captain in England’s history, and that’s why they have so many lovely stories about him in the media. The level of obsession with his personal life is mind-boggling, and has produced a ridiculous amount of anti-JT sentiment with a large portion of the UK seem all too happy to accept. Which is also why we now have tons of self-proclaimed lip readers who only ‘see’ what they want to see, even without a single audio clip of the incident available out there.

Another thing that needs to be pointed out is the fact that anton ferdinand didn’t actually HEAR terry utter anything racist on the pitch, and JT sort of talked himself into trouble by claiming his words were actually in denial of having used a racist slur. Besides that, they cleared everything up in the dressing room afterwards and it only became an issue AFTER an anonymous complaint was made, and forced the media as well as the police to go into overdrive.

The Suarez situation on the other hand is much more ‘damning’ so to speak (you’d never guess it from reading the papers though, trust me) as evra himself has personally complained of hearing racist words used against him during the match. To make matters worse, the word was used several times throughout the 90 mins, and his argument that evra misinterpreted them is weak to say the least.

Now my question is, if it is a common and playful term in the south American/spanish vernacular, was it only used against evra? If that’s the case then I’d have to say he’s in a real pickle right now. Because if he’s unable to prove that he commonly uses it against other players in the league, then it looks quite bad for him. In addition to that, as some quarters have pointed out if JT lost his head (as he has before, just like any other player) and allegedly used a racist slur during that prolonged argument(which i don't support in any way, mind you) then it can be put down to a heat of the moment thing, which doesn’t necessarily make him a racist. Compare that to something which was said several times at various intervals, it’s practically impossible to put down to just ‘a moment of madness’ when someone loses his/her temper.

lulz lulz manure dis manure tat 1-6 dis 6-1 tat...

U guys have taken a dig at everything we said here in ur thread . Most of us didn't bother to go there and reply all those posts bout us . Who's being sensitive here? I reported you for several times and seems you didn't learn much from warning or suspension. Wondering do u related to any staffs here?

If we been sensitive the chaos should be happening on ur thread and not here

Kalau takde angin masa kan pokok bergoyang??

Come on guys..please dont get even lower that you are now. Show some class and maturity.

What are you guys going to say if he is really proven guilty?? Still defend him?? U still support a racist?? u guys like vroomm vroomm??

Cuba la cerdik sikit...pikir guna otak..bukan guna lutut..

What if he found not guilty? You gonna eat your own words?

No no, if proven guilty, then justify maaaa

either...

a. misinterpreted/lost in translation
b. suarez is human and humans make mistakes
c. evra is a ****, he deserves it
d. fa making example out of him

and the likes

No..i will still eat rice and Evra has to explain his initial claim...

Thats how it works my friend..

Baaik kau bubarkan parlimen dan mahkamah lepas tu aku tuduh ko membunuh . Takde angin madakan pokok bergoyangkan.

Sabarlah sebelum dia dibuktikan bersalah . Aku ni cina tapi tau jugak fitnah tu dosa lagi besar dari membunuh.. Come on , wat u guys going to say if he proven innocent? Tanya balik diri sendiri dulu beb . Tunggu result out baru start ur machine gun .. Ni tak , masuk rumah org takde waran lepas tu start ur fire pulak . Siape x panas

With Suarez now charged, Evra do not need to explain anything. Even if Suarez is found innocent, Evra is safe. Lacked of evidence can clear Evra butt of any wrong doing

False allegation...sure FA will charge him with something...

If false allegation, FA will charge Evra instead of Suarez, something FA will never do. This will beat the whole purpose of anti-racism campaign. Nobody will come forward anymore if the "victim" is charged. The only thing can be done will be Suarez counter sue Evra, which I dont think Suarez will waste his time on this. Believe me, Suarez will be cleared of any case. It's his words vs Evra unless further evidence is found.

Today when I come to read a Liverpool thread, I thought I wrongly entered a man Utd thread. So many of them here today, eh.. Almost like there are more passionate about us then their supposedly supported team lei.. Thank you for your interest guys..

Don't forget to also log into your supposedly supported team's thread there to post comments there as well...


This post has been edited by weichieh007: Nov 17 2011, 12:09 PM

boy was i correct assuming the thread will be infested after the news about suarez came out last night.

anyway, suarez has been charges but not yet proven guilty. so no need to say this and that about him. if he been found guilty calling evra a nigger then if was nobody fault but his. he should know better. he should just accept the punishment.

even if the FA say he's not guilty and the charges drop because of lack evidence his reputation already tainted and the media will not fail bring this issue everytime. i hope he is strong enough to face the incoming onslaught.

with this, it be interesting to see what will john terry gets. his action actually does caught and camera and broadcast live. we'll see..

Glad you brought this up. I myself am wondering why you lost see it fit to say something about us everyday without provocation when we aren't considered worthy rivals?

Now let me look into this article.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2011-1...nt_14111071.htm?

So the FA has decided to charge Suarez over an alleged racial comment and Suarez is still pleading "not guilty". If indeed he did use the term, "Negrito", as alleged by Evra, then he is guilty regardless of how acceptable it is in South America. This is after all England, where anti-racism sentiments are strong. Forget the allegations (I like how often this word is used a lot in this case) that his manc buddies call him the same name. It's a case of "only my friends can call me that". It is true however that the term, "Negrito" is indeed a term of endearment in South America.



However Suarez should be sensitive to the fact that those from other continents may take offence to it. If he did utter the word, I think it was more out of naivety than hostility but should be fined nonetheless for when in someone else's house, we should respect their rules. I can understand him not wanting to please guilty though especially if he didn't mean it as an insult. It's what I would do and if anyone here tells me they'll plead guilty to a crime they didn't intend to commit, then you're a bigger man than me. This is all assuming the allegations turn out to be true.

Wonder what the outcome of Terry's case will be now given that there is alleged (here's that word again) video evidence of him uttering a racist word.

To anyone who thinks these cases are that straightforward, not bothering to do research of reading before commenting, it's why there are people with different intelligence levels around.

This post has been edited by Duke Red: Nov 17 2011, 12:15 PM

Eh, i tot that's how you all reacted when Rooney had the hooker affair? He was young, he made mistake. So, you all can apply and we can't?

Double standard again?

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Added on November 17, 2011, 12:18 pmVroom vroom in kopitiam please. This is Football Lounge for god's sake.

And the bold part just make me lol

So, everyone is guilty as long as there is rumour/allegation/charged and he dun have the right to defend himself or attend any hearing. Which world are you living in? No concrete evidence and you sentenced one person to death? Stop living in your own world and come back to reality. Maybe it's good for you to stop vising kopitiam and come back with all these fantasy.

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Added on November 17, 2011, 12:22 pmQUOTE FOR THE WIN!

Exactly what I am trying to say. Stupid charges, then sentenced to death. There is no need for trial whatsoever.


This post has been edited by solstice818: Nov 17 2011, 12:22 PM

Sorry la bro, want to argue also have some merits please. First off, prostitution in the UK is legal lor...so technically he did nothing wrong. Of course it's frown upon and all, cause it smears the club's name blah blah and the sorts. But, but, but...racism is actually illegal. =x

You wanna know who the real double standard wankers are? The FA. Rooney 3 match ban for swearing, Reina swore infront of camera 0 match ban. Dalgish swore, nothing happened, Adam swore, nothing happened. Come to think of it, NO ONE ELSE has ever been banned for swearing....tell me you dont see it weekly.

Wow, so many mancs in da house..

I suppose racism is a big issue of late. but then again, if there is prove then there is nothing to defend. but i was thinking in terms of so many mancs out there making so much noise, where were you guys when Giggsy was screwing his brother's wife? I mean he is still a legend no? upstanding sportsman? was it a conspiracy to discredit him? but then again, what level of morality does scums have anyway?

so i guess words that were uttered like "negrita" in context were infact a term of endearment in many other countries are suddenly deemed more dreadful than sticking your staff in your sister's snatch... wat?! LOL

and to be fair, at least Rooney had the decency to look for a hooker, but the single act of Giggsy must be deemed the most heinous as you are involved in betrayal of your own family member, coveting after another man's wife, and a whole list of no-no's by human morality standards... but, but.. that is all nothing compared to what was said on the field as "words" and misinterpretations definitely bring more harm to another human being...

If according to this little fiasco, then Giggsy should be stripped off every single merit he has won so far for being a so-called upstanding sportsman in the business... perhaps probably even banned for life for setting a bad example LOL

This post has been edited by REDShaun: Nov 17 2011, 01:14 PM