Another seed of Einstein's I see. Qualifying for the Champions League is one thing, winning it is another.

thats weird.
far as i can tell, lucas only has 4 yellow cards.

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Added on October 19, 2011, 6:48 pmoh ok, nm...he got 1 in the carling cup also.
at this rate hes going to set a new record.
anyway, cant say that i'll miss him for the norwich game...

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Added on October 19, 2011, 6:50 pm

the fans are just as delusional as their manager who thinks they're closing in on barca...pfft...in 20yrs maybe.

u know why they closing in on barca? cos barca only got 4 CL titles...going to be a long while before they can say they closing in on 5 titles

squirelling much? what's the point of trying to stir a storm, when we could easily just take all your past post and throw them back at you?

Your stay here is... in every passing moment a typical sick humour we would stereotype of members of a certain club.

If I may as a fan of LFC make an observation.

This sounds like a child in need of attention and not getting it at home. He feels he is funny and harmless but he shows here he is not. From close observation, he is needing some kind of a justification to point out that what he is doing is correct; seeking approval for what he does or says and almost a certainty; this is also reflected in his daily life. Such is a child who has had a troubled childhood either with parental issues or peers alike.

I implore all fans here to not look at his comments or how most of you would call trolling to be anything other than a call for help from a fellow human being. Just say you understand and hope all will be well for him. That is the least any decent fans of a great club like Liverpool Football Club can do to.

From now on; every post reply to his post should be:
We understand your pain and your need for approval. All will be well. And You will never walk alone. God Bless. 

I still support him and hating Manure.. is it problem? 

Funny how things work for you lots. and not for us....

Contradiction # 1
boxysystem claimed that we ill treated our former player , Torres after he contributed a lot to the team. Then he went on we blindly supported Suarez despite him doing the wrong thing. Now, isn't that a bit contradictory that you blamed some of us for bashing Torres when he dished the team when the team need him most? So, if we supported him after he did the wrong thing, I guess you will just went on to say that we are blind supporter again, huh?


Contradiction # 2
boxysystem ALSO claimed that they never treated their former player that badly. That includes Ruud and Ronaldo.  Wow, then pls remind me how you lots bashed a certain player called Carlos Tevez...Hypocrisy? So, it's ok for you lot to bash a former player for moving to a close rival and not for us to do so. Wow, such double standard!


Contradiction # 3
" we never treat ronaldo, ruud in this way..." So, by comparing us and yourself in terms of treatment of former player, boxysystem indirectly/directly trying to show that they are BETTER than us in some way. So, what's the hypocrisy of labeling us acting holier-than-thou ? You yourself did that in the first place, eh?

Contradiction # 4
Wayne Rooney with the hooker affair. Well, I definitely din see you lots bashed him. In fact, most of you defended him when other poster talked about him. So, why can't we defended our player in that way too? And bear in mind that NONE of us approved what Suarez did with the handball in world cup. We never said he is holy, we never said he is saint. So stop criticizing us based on your own opinion which did not reflect on the entire truth.

It's sickening to see how things work this way. It's sickening to see such double standard exist too. I know there is hatred exist between the two clubs supporters but i expect a little more rationality when it comes to criticism and not mere accusations. I have to say it's always easy to point at others and fail to look at own self.
As for radio_head, yea, I wonder why you never get perma ban despite all the troll post. adik beradik with mod or something? Did you just bribe?

ADD ON: Oh yea, all the talking about how we should not call Chelsea fans plastic just because they have Roman to buy all the player they want. But hey, isn't that the same way you lots bashed City fans. I dun need to point further. Just look at the city thread. Almost every day troll post from man united supporter. And please Get the facts right, we are not talking about them being plastic fans, we are talking about plastic flag they were given!

Since Suarez is now charged, it mean FA have some kind of evidence/witness. If the evidence is as rock solid as what Evra claim, I doubt the FA took so long to charge Suarez if we compare to Terry. Terry case was later than Suarez but the charge is much much sooner.

Lets compare Suarez and Terry case:
1) Video evidence - there are claims of video capturing Terry used racist words, is there any for Suarez? None from public so far

2) Witness - there are fans complain on Terry using racist words, is there any for Suarez? Again, none from public

3) Victim itself - A.Ferdinand leave it to FA, he say he didnt heard the words himself. Evra claim Suarez say the "racist" words at least 10 times, and referee Andre Mariner heard at least some of it. A.Mariner already explain he did not know anything until after final whistle.

So far, there are no evidence other than Evra mouth himself and also a public backing from Ferguson. So, did FA really have evidence or they charge Suarez just as a warning to others (no tolerance to racism). So if Suarez was found innocent, FA can claim the case as lacked of evidence. This will give both Evra and Suarez a stage to "step down". If there are no charges at all, there will be huge uproar of asking Evra to be ban, and the campaign of anti-racist will be affected.

From what I see, Suarez is just being sacrificed as a scapegoat. My 2 cent

Kalau takde angin masa kan pokok bergoyang??

Come on guys..please dont get even lower that you are now. Show some class and maturity.

What are you guys going to say if he is really proven guilty?? Still defend him?? U still support a racist?? u guys like vroomm vroomm??

Cuba la cerdik sikit...pikir guna otak..bukan guna lutut..

Eh, i tot that's how you all reacted when Rooney had the hooker affair? He was young, he made mistake. So, you all can apply and we can't?

Double standard again? 

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Added on November 17, 2011, 12:18 pm

Vroom vroom in kopitiam please. This is Football Lounge for god's sake.

And the bold part just make me lol

So, everyone is guilty as long as there is rumour/allegation/charged and he dun have the right to defend himself or attend any hearing. Which world are you living in? No concrete evidence and you sentenced one person to death? Stop living in your own world and come back to reality. Maybe it's good for you to stop vising kopitiam and come back with all these fantasy.

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Added on November 17, 2011, 12:22 pm
QUOTE FOR THE WIN!

Exactly what I am trying to say.  Stupid charges, then sentenced to death. There is no need for trial whatsoever.

like you know? 

Right and those giving the verdict are mind readers.

Since juries and judged don't mid read, you base it on priors and he has none despite having playing in Holland for 5 years where if I recall there are a fair amount of dark skinned people who are either native to the country or surrounding countries like Surinam, and getting involved in charity work supporting solidarity, and fighting social inequality during the 2010 World Cup.

Do you disagree that it is used as a term of endearment in South America?

Ah but I may be biased of course so why don't you provide counter evidence?

Unlike in some courtrooms where a person is assumed guilty until he can be proven innocent, I believe in the opposite. Suarez may be proven guilty of uttering the word, "Negrito" and he may be banned a few games for it.

As for intent, he is innocent until proven guilty, no? Or do you all have a different belief system? The same one adopted by our courts in the prosecution of opposition members. How can we prove intent? I'm not genius but to me, it comes back to your prior convictions (or absence of them) and behaviour and as I have stated earlier, there are no priors to support his intent was malicious, in fact I've just stated evidence supporting quite the opposite. Well if you do believe that a person is guilty until proven innocent, then we really have nothing further to discuss. So you can ask me how I know to which I don't but let me ask you this is return. How do you know otherwise? Any prior offences to support your case?

No doubt some braniac will interject soon by going, "ah he said it so he's racist la" without giving it a single though whether through choice or merely absent of the ability to do so.

Which scenario was hypothetical? The one where I indicated he's been playing in a league for years with no previous racially motivated allegations made against him, or the one where he did charity work for equality whilst in South Africa?

May i ask your opinion about the fact evra has claimed racist chants against him in the past a few times?One against steve finnan,then against some chelsea
staff?both accused were aquitted of the offence.So isnt there a high possibilty of crying wolf again?

Which scenario was hypothetical? The one where I indicated he's been playing in a league for years with no previous racially motivated allegations made against him, or the one where he did charity work for equality whilst in South Africa?

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Added on November 17, 2011, 3:50 pm

So you believe he's innocent then? You have to have an opinion no?

1. Evra said Negro x 10 from Suarez
2. Suarez said no... never uttered the word Negro
3. No cameras nor prove as per what was caught on camera of JT
4. He (Suarez) said, SHe (Evra) said...

so in terms of hypothetical, unless there is solid prove, the accusations from Evra was wrong in the first place. so we can go all night and day with Evra's sensitivity or the fact there was no prove it was the dreaded "N" word, then why the case? Oh right, it's because the simple fact that Evra or his possies has brought up this matter of racism more times than just once.

So as a repeat offender from 2 prior cases in which he has been brought up that has come to naught, should he be charged for this 3rd time for being a whiner? 

wow the noisiest fence sitter if ever there was one..

the simple fact you're here to troll and focused on this subject deems you already saying yes and is on a bias note. but then again, who's surprised anyway

No, let me do the work, I insist.

1. Suarez alleged to have made racist remark (negrito)
2. I think he did say it and therefore, should be punished (my opinion). If he didn't say it, then I'm wrong.

My argument is whether or not saying it makes him racist because it is a term of endearment in his region of the word, where he grew up as a kid?

I never said I was stating fact, I'm presenting an argument based on my opinion and I've challenged you to provide some information that may indicate he's really racist. Thus far, you've only succeeded in labeling my arguments indicating that his intent was not malicious as being flawed despite them being true. Why don't you provide arguments indicating otherwise?

then you are already contradicting the fact you were saying you're sitting on the fence.

good try troll 

LOL, please stop trying, you are making me laugh...

you said yourself, you will keep yourself on the fence until the outcome is out, then you go out to prove and say it's racism from Suarez saying it 10 times stating it as racism at the end. and yet I have seen no reports of having any prove it was out there, i mean 10x, there must be a lipreader somewhere or a camera from at least one angle to have caught it.

seriously, stop already... you are making it too darn funny