i should have known that i will see some mancs got butthurt and troll when i go in here. they never fail to do that every time. bet it winning or losing.. typical.
we boss the 2nd half last night. they doesn't look that they gonna give reina a real threat except for hernandez goal. that chiwawa instinct infront of goal really good. as good as nistelroy..
we played with no DM for almost 1/3 of the game and still managed to contained them. lack of clinical finish and de gea save their asses last night. 2 points drop..
enrique 'hand' ball was like ball to shoulder to hand. while evans is more clear ball to hand. though i personally think it didnt matter much when the ref not giving the penalty for both coz i think kinda soft penalty to give.
evra has been playing the 'race' card couple of times before. and all was ruled out. and i dont think suarez is a racist though.. he played in eradivise for quite a while to be a racist prick... banyak nigres sana. lol.
downing should be off for bellamy. he was not very effective last night while bellamy could cause a lot of trouble for the defenders and giving a lil bit space for suarez.
i think the back four was good. hernandez goal was a let down but all and all, they was good. enrique is already looks like he's the best buy of the season. kelly solid, carra his usual self and skrtel has improved alot.
i hope kenny could rest suarez and give bellamy and carrol a start for norwich game. and bring on suarez when needed. the guy deserved some rest. heplayed his heart from the beginning of the season.
chances we can create, but if we dont take them, it will come back to haunt us. again we have to ask after evaluating the season so far. how many match winners that we really do have. how many players that we can sub on and make the opposition worry.
unfortunately in a season without any european distractions, we look like challenging for top 4 rather than the title. as for now, we dont look like title contenders. just being realistic
yeah. if i remember correctly john henry already stated that he does not expect any title this season but UCL spot is a priority. he is well aware that our squad is still rather thin to challenge the likes of both manc sides and chelsea for the league title.
i do agree our squad is still not completed. we already sorted out the left side. the middle is well taken care of for now. the rest of the area still not completed imho. a couple quality additions needed to really challenge for the top.
any reds expecting league title this season is expecting too much id say.. FA and mickey mouse cup on the other hand, is ours to lose.
Why cant we blame Skrtel for the goal if he lost his man? No doubt Hernandez is fast and pacey (ala fox in the box), but Skrtel is also to blame for not keeping tabs on the person he was supposed to mark.
Chill, we're not taking credit away from your Golden Child, we're merely stating that Skrtel should have done better. Is that not correct? No one is a sour grape here. Facts are facts.
Time and time again Liverpool concede because of poor marking in the box (eg. Larsson's goal), especially during the days when we opted for Zonal instead of man-marking.
skrtel was solid throughout the game. hernandez goal was his only fault which destroy all his good work that afternoon. but then again carra should clear the ball first. its not easy to mark your man in that situation.
we've been shite in defending set pieces for a long time i hope it will change soon.
they keep coming because you guys keep feeding them.. ignore and they play elsewhere
as for norwich game, we should be winning this no excuse. i hope we could lead comfortably in 1st half so suarez can be rested for the 2nd. we have stoke to play on wednesday if i remember correctly
and here i am double checking my calendar wondering why suddenly talk about chelsea game. i thought my calendar was wrong.
one game at a time guys. no matter how small the team is.. it's still 3 points on the line
QUOTE(Blurnotion @ Oct 21 2011, 04:29 PM)
That is true. Mata will be a handful and I am hoping he plays on the right so Enrique could at least be dependable to keep him limited in space.
I only worry on Glen's side, if Kelly is handling it then it gives me some confidence in keeping Mata out if Mata plays left for the Blues. That is if Kelly is playing.
It's still 3 more matches prior to the Stamford Bridge visit. I know by then the confidence will be high again to take on Chelsea.
when i watched the game and so many chances wasted i knew it will be one of those days where we dominate most of the time but failed to so score and end up either draw or lose. and i was correct all along
kenny and clarke should now not only focused on defending but also finishing.. the goal was both reina's and carra's fault. right side was not functioning at all. downing not effective most of the time and johnson a liability to defense when going forward. adam is lost somewhere in there.. suarez making a lot of chances but unlucky to score. i pity him. he try to hard till he cant keep calm.
we should have won but same old story.. we failed to beat team like this..
It is beyond me how the positives seem to escape the attention of some. Whine about creating and not scoring if you want but the fact that we mustered over 40 shots on goal against Stoke and Norwich (games we should have won) is a marked improvement over deserving to lose against them, something we were accustomed to not so long ago. Anyone remember being outplayed at home against the likes of Reading and Wolves? Like I said, all we can do is to keep creating opportunities and the goals will come. Does everyone who comments on games actually watch the game?
Added on October 25, 2011, 9:42 amI've been patiently waiting for the outcome of the Evra - Suarez row. What has become of it? Evra had accused Suarez of being racially abusive and that he had uttered a racist word 10 times and that the ref, Andre Marriner knows what Suarez said. If this is so, why hasn't Mr. Marriner come forth? Why did he not send Suarez off? Where is the video evidence? He said it 10 times and I'm sure a camera would have picked up on it. Action needs to be taken against someone, so who is in the wrong here?
i know most of the whining is a kneejerk reactions but creating chances while not converting them is a legitimate thing to worry about. i know the goal will come but it clearly shows that suarez needs help upfront. the defenders are marking him like crazy so we need a poacher like striker that can exploit that free space left behind. carrol is not that type of striker and only kuyt come close.. but not critical enough.
the inability to keep a clean sheet is more worrisome, innit? carra and skrtel have been struggling against team with big players. its been our achilles heels for quite some time after hyppia left. we seems to patched the aerial threat a bit when soto was playing but he's unpredictable from open play. should we ease coates in against team like norwich and stoke? he's big and agile from what i saw of his limited playing time. plus he's a national team captain so i guess pressure is something he already used to.
Goals win games in the end, I get it. I also get that becoming title contenders once again isn't an overnight process. We need to manage our own expectations and look towards signs of improvement. As it stands we are unbeaten at home in 9 games or so, and achievement of sorts if you consider how even mid-tables sides used to come to Anfield playing for 3 points just last season. Now even Man Utd were cautious and adopted a cautious formation. Not finishing opportunities that come our way isn't about tactics or formations. It's about the player so I don't get the criticism leveled at how we shape up on the field. It seems Suarez can do anything but finish at the moment and it is a concern but again, it has nothing to do with tactics. Possibly confidence but if this is so, it is only temporary. We've smacked the post in half the games we've played this season and on any other given day the ball may have found itself in nestled in the back of the net, instead of ricocheting wide. The transfer window is closed for the moment so we've to work with what we have. Keep this up and the goals will come I say.
Defensively, we've been loose but I also attribute that to the fact we're pushing forward more and throwing caution to the wind at times. Enrique and whoever plays at right back, surge forward at each given opportunity. It's the reason we've been creating so many opportunities. Like I said some days back, our back four looks exposed at times. I don't think it's totally down to Carra or Skrtel. We were conceding even with Agger in the side. I've never thought that Skrtel was strong in the air and in fact, I think he looks like he has lead in his feet. Carra's just over 6' tall and he'll struggle against bigger centre forwards, this is a given. Nothing he can do about his stature. We are prone in the air and this I agree with. Will Coates make a difference? Well he's bloody tall and I hope he's a better header of the ball than Peter Crouch. Not seen much of him but he does look off the pace a little. I reckon it's going to take him some time to adjust to the speed of the Premiership just like Alonso had to. In summary, I think we need better cover for the back four and maybe adopt a more cautious approach to games as negative as that sounds. I like the pairing of Carra and Agger and I hope the latter has returned to full fitness. I always get the feeling that Skrtel is a disaster waiting to happen. He gives away silly fouls and the way he grabs players during setpieces, you get a sense that it's only a matter of time before he starts giving away more penalties.
I agree that we need to adopt a more cautious tactics in certain games. As much as I like the team to attack like crazy, it couldn't be help if we let the opponents scores on counter attack too. remind me of evans years.
For me, Skrtel has progress a little bit this season although unconsistent at times. I guess once Coates familiarized with PL he will be above Skrtel in the pecking order.
I too, agree that Agger is the best partner for Carra atm and has the ability to become one of the best in game. Too bad his fitness is not on par with his potential. I afraid he, along with Johnson, Kelly and Aurelio is the kind of players thats not gonna play 20 straight games for us.
Is our defence that shaky though?........aside from the 4-0 loss to Spurs with 2 men off we haven't really conceded that many - in fact I think we would be in the top 3-4 sides in goals conceded (granted we appear to be defending deeper and people don't like that as it may invite more scoring opportunities - I can't confirm this as fact, but the goals conceded isn't horrible.).
I think our issue at the moment is not our chance creation, but our finishing. Unfortunately this is nothing new......the thought of Suarez having 10 opportunities and not scoring one, or the team having 20 plus and only scoring one just seem way out there. As someone pointed out City had 7 chances against utd scored six, go figure.
As for the talk of spirit and fight - again the team have fought all season, the only game we looked outdone really was Spurs, you couldn't say we drew with Norwich because of a lack of effort - a lack of effort would have meant we never gave ourselves a chance to win - and well we did that plenty.
I don't want to make cop out excuses, but I feel we have most of the jigsaw pieces in the squad I'm just not sure we've figured out the puzzle of how to best put them together to get the desired result
yeah, i would say our defense is shaky. more apparent on aerial/setpieces/crosses. everytime the ball flying across the box my heart would stop beating for a second. most of the time we have lucas to break the attack from open play but he cant be everywhere everytime.
on finishing, thats why i said we need a poacher like striker with good finishing (ala ruud van horseface comes to mind) to accompany suarez.
i can remember most of the goal in the video. pity the young fans who didnt have the chance to watch fowler and owen in their prime and young gerrard. good times.
Young gerrard was very energetic and reckless.Always getting in two footed challenges and red cards especially against everton.
the sight of him tracking back, running full speed chasing a loose ball and actually did get the ball when tackling always made me goes something like "ouuhhhh!! power power power... mamat ni" Ged did a good job giving him the captain's armband and making him more mature.
i think the atttendance average of the london clubs are lower then ours (if i'm not mistaken), yet yeild $$$$ more. *in gunners prior to the new stadium & london/city teams charging slightly higher $ seats.
AND the deficit of around *£56-57million A SEASON against Manu in matchday gate revenue ONLY. AND "it's not about money" its seems when shoving success is the ability TO purchase top key players when needed, not sell, then buy policy < *
this is why a larger stadium is needed. 55k seater with possibilty of expansion probably safe enough. because i doubt liverpool can fill up those seats every weekend. even with 45k seater we still only no 4 or 5 highest in attendance.
bringing joe cole back will be a step backward. sell him if a club crazy enough to agree his salary.
yesterday's game can be describe as underwhelming. the team barely trying. i was a little bit worried before the 2nd goal come though agger and skrtel is solid at the back.
cant really understand people opinion on carrol. he work his socks off and his partnership with suarez looks like its coming together.
This post has been edited by rushmode: Oct 30 2011, 10:00 PM
He was actually the 2nd choice after Downing. LMAO. When I saw he played for Chelsea the first time, I immediately butthurt. Chelsea paid like what? 27mil for him. And we paid 47 million for 3 mediocre players and still can't get into the top 4. What a joke KD. What a joke.
to be fair, mate... your statement a joke too. its not like mata will come here even if FSG offers to buy him. you cant just said "okay, i want to buy you. come now!" is not that simple. the said player will also look at the team first. surely not playing in CL hurts our chance to even get him. plus, chelsea bought him for 27mil but his wages is probably double of what downing earn now. not a financial expert but surely getting mata will cost more.
it is still early in the season to said such thing. the new players needs time. please wait at least till the season end before saying we fail to get to top 4. if we should decide now then newcastle already confirm playing UCL next season.
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