I thought you want to get Nikkor only?
If you want to save cost, I'd suggest you go for Tamrom 17-50mm f/2.8 NON-VC model; Check out the reviews, it's sharp and it's around RM1200 or you may find cheaper also. One problem you might face is focus hunting in poorly lit condition and the noisy AF (some say transformer sound).
The Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC OS will cost you easily over RM2K. The Non-OS model which is 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC Macro is cheaper and have Macro capability up to 1:3 maginification.

If you're paying 3K for Sigma, and if you can find a reliable and good condition 17-55 mm Nikkor, better go for the Nikkor.

Otherwise, I might recommend you to check out the Tamron at around RM1200 (or less), you can get authorised set with 2 years warranty. Go try it out yourself, no harm, try it and compare yourself. You might want to try and compare all the different brand yourself.

See the MTF Chart, it's pretty good (This is the Non-VC):
http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-...-review?start=1

Check out others here:
http://www.photozone.de/nikon--nikkor-aps-c-lens-tests

This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 4 2011, 11:30 PM

Here is more expensive especially authorised set by Sigma Malaysia.

55-300 is better... some reason(s):
1. Metal mount
2. Sharper

Not sure about the detail of picture quality and other stuffs (bokeh, CA, etc. but I suppose it might have improved).

Yea, dunno why sooo many car today, I was very lucky to found parking, gotta meet my friend for lunch.

No V1 and J1 to try, no Nikon Europe magazine, only get Nikon Club strap.....
X10 looks nicely built, X100 amazing.

Tested NEX-5N with adapter fit with 50mm f/1.8, nicely built lens, nice to hold with the adapter. Overall, it's nice. Would prefer NEX-7 though for the more manual controls.
... then....... tested A-77.... feel like a noob there, don't know how to use... and not nice to hold, need kind of large hand, even my friend has large hand also say not nice to hold/grip.
The EVF.... not good in lowlight as it also show poor quality and noise. Overall impression
Sorry to say so, but previously looking at the specs and advertisement, it really looks cool; but maybe blame me for being noob or don't know how to use it.
No wonder my friend switch over to Nikon.

Yea... Really big and tall.... Feel so short and tiny when walk pass her... oh, the humiliation...

I think 30mb/s is 133x or 166x, can't remember, I'm using the 30mb/s.

Anyway, seems no testing available for V1 and J1 today also............ nothing much also today.....

someone from Nikon said there will be something ON on the 21st or something, there will be Nikon Pro Europe magazine for sell, I Am Nikon Polo T? Free sensor cleaning, and V1 and J1 testing. Could it be the official selling date for V1 and J1 in Malaysia? Or what event s that? Nikon event it seems?

Agree with celciuz, D700 is much better, FF still excels at noise, still at least 1 stop better than D7000. Don't rely on how great the D7000 ISO, some said very close or cleaner, but in real usage, you will notice it's noisier especially the dark areas. D700 at 1600 ISO is still very clean; There're some sites that does very detailed and proper review and you can clearly see that D700 is still much better, at least by 1 stop.

+ 1

Autofocus accuracy, speed, build quality, body, bigger viewfinder, etc.

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Added on October 10, 2011, 12:37 pmNormally is lens first.
But depends your usage, if you dont' use those zoom lens, and only use prime lens, then you can easily get the 50mm f/1.8 at very low price. It'll be like your current 35mm f/1.8, but better quality.
For job or events, "normally" will need a zoom lens like 24-70mm f/2.8, and there is no really cheap alternative for this unlike on DX, you got much more choice which offer good IQ at very low cost.
But if you're not looking for those zooms, and can live with 50mm, then it's not really a problem.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 10 2011, 12:37 PM

No worries, just suggestions. You might want to think carefully before decide (if you can save up more); just in case you regret later. Maybe you should go try out both.

Just sharing suggestion/opinion.

Under warranty cheaper.

Maybe should say, due to many people send in, they need to do it quickly, if not, later too many DSLR pending for cleaning.

The process is the same, just whether they have more time to do in detail and properly. Just like you go service your car, if you go when there is a lot of car, they will be doing it quickly, when there's no car, the mechanic can pay more attention to detail (also depend on the mechanic "lar").
As said, it also depend on the person doing the job; Doing it "fast" doesn't mean bad, if the person is good, does a great job, fast and efficient, then fast doesn't mean will end up bad.

No, if you want safe, maybe you can opt to turn it off before turn off the camera.

What it means is that, when you half-pres your shutter, the focus will lock and the VR will function (in effect), you can feel the VR functioning. If during this operation and you turn off the camera, it may cause problem.
It maybe accidental as the ON/OFF button is with the shutter button, so, let's say you wanna turn off the camera and you accidentally press the shutter button, you may notice the VR functioning... so, there is possibility that "accidents" may happen.

Amazing "Photographer"

As said, gear doesn't matter, why bother. Both are great camera.

Tone, Colour, etc has been discussed before many times, and it shows the person's understanding towards it.

50mm f/1.8G (FF prime lens) cheaper than 35mm f/1.8G DX.
The 50mm f/1.8G is sharp, better built? better bokeh? better IQ? and have distance scale.

Of course I know lor...

I think you miss the previous posting.

Agito want to upgrade to FF, D800, but worry lens price, so maybe should get lens first.

As current, he's using D70 with 35mm f/1.8G.
Seems he doesn't need zoom lens, so I suppose the one prime lens is enough for him?

So, if he move on to D800, he was asking if he can use the 35mm f/1.8G DX.

Hence, if he upgrade to FF, he can sell off his 35mm f/1.8G DX, and get the 50mm f/1.8G, which is similar as 35mm on DX body.... plus, it's cheaper and offers more...

If you want 24-70, you'll be like paying for another D700.
I thought you use mostly the 35mm f/1.8G on your D70 now?
So, if you move to FF, you get the 50mm f/1.8G, is just like what you're using now, and it's not cheapo lens.

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Added on October 12, 2011, 11:22 amMalaysia got UHS-I already, 45mb/s.

In US, the Panasonic UHS-I offers up to 90mb/s but cost a bomb.


Urm... no... 50mm is put of FF body. Didn't ask him to buy 50mm now.
I said, when he upgrade FF, he can get the 50mm, which will work like his 35mm on DX.
So, he can stick to his DX and 35mm right now.



This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 12 2011, 11:22 AM

Depends if you really need zoom lens; Zoom lens good for versatality, but your max aperture only f/2.8.
You don't want to get Flash, and you shoot mostly toys, collections, etc? Maybe prime is enough and even better?
f/2.8 can produce nice bokeh, but with f/1.8 it's even more nice, plus the DOF...

50mm f/1.8G is sharp wide open, good quality and reasonably priced. Definitely worth getting.

Got some night session, low light, I use the 35mm wide open all the way for all the shots. Zoom is nice to have, but I want the large aperture in low light since I didn't use flash that time.

So, this is the so called better colour? Firstly, it looks fake and colour can be adjusted if you want, unless the photog don't know it can actually be done.
Thirdly, the pic even at such small resolution, you can see it look like water colour painting or doll, look at the face and hair, and it looks like some hard sharpening too?

I think someone previously posted some really nice shot of canon 50mm f/1.2 bokeh;
This has nothing special really? If you don't say, who or how many would've thought it's done with f/1.2? or Canon 5D MKII? The colour, first thing comes into mind would be bump up saturation?

Use longer focal length and shoot closer also can.
Use 105mm f/2.8 Macro shooting close up, mebbe can give even creamier effect? Plus superb details?

If you shoot JPEG yes; if you shoot RAW, then no (but when you preview in your camera, it will apply the picture control you set). Shoot RAW, then use Nikon ViewNX or CaptureNX, you can apply ANY picture control you like and see the changes, and also tweak to your preference.
Some camera body, have in-camera raw processing, so you can do it from the camera as well.

In the picture control, few presets already provided, like Standard, Portrait, Vivid, etc.
You can also edit and customize the picture control to your liking (e.g. boost contrast, boost saturation)... so, previous you said about "colourful", it can be tweak and adjusted... And depending on what you shoot, you may not use the same preset, e.g. shooting human portrait (where you'll want more accurate skin tone), shooting objects like cars (where you might want to colours to pop), etc.