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post Mar 27 2016, 04:05 PM


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QUOTE(jio @ Mar 27 2016, 03:36 PM)
I think they only have to use VLAN & DHCP for the WAN, no need for PPPoE.
http://proud2bnerd.blogspot.my/2014/09/rep...outer-with.html
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OK, thanks, lack of PPPoE encapsulation probably explains the speeds they're getting with the RB2011.
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post Mar 27 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 27 2016, 04:05 PM)
OK, thanks, lack of PPPoE encapsulation probably explains the speeds they're getting with the RB2011.
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I made mistake of running the bandwidth test directly on the RB951, which is then bottlenecked by the CPU. Using the PC to run the bandwidth test on v6.34.3 almost reach 300Mbps. On v6.35RC42, I measured about 880Mbps. Can safely say RB951G can handle 500Mbps just fine with the upcoming v6.35.
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post Mar 28 2016, 06:25 PM


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QUOTE(jio @ Mar 27 2016, 05:33 PM)
I made mistake of running the bandwidth test directly on the RB951, which is then bottlenecked by the CPU. Using the PC to run the bandwidth test on v6.34.3 almost reach 300Mbps. On v6.35RC42, I measured about 880Mbps. Can safely say RB951G can handle 500Mbps just fine with the upcoming v6.35.
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I read your updated post. Wow! 880Mbps is quite impressive for a RM400 wifi router. For your test was the RB951 using default configuration? PPPoE & NAT as well? How did you test? iPerf?
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post Mar 28 2016, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 28 2016, 06:25 PM)
I read your updated post. Wow! 880Mbps is quite impressive for a RM400 wifi router. For your test was the RB951 using default configuration? PPPoE & NAT as well? How did you test? iPerf?
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I just do quick & dirty test using Mikrotik own btest utility, using TCP only. So the actual peak throughput might be higher, but doesn't really matter as real life usage/performance won't be the same like those simulated test anyway. PC is connected to RB951G via gigabit without any filter rules & queues except for the required rules for fasttrack. RB951G connected PPPoE server (Mikrotik VM on Xeon E5-1650 with I350-T4 nic) & NAT enabled for the PPPoE client interface.

But this figure is just for 1 way traffic. The total combined throughput both way is just about 800Mbps due to the CPU bottleneck.

Anyway it seems like there is no PPPoE encryption offload/acceleration, which partly explains the very poor PPPoE performance when the encryption is enabled. It seems the crypto hardware acceleration not supported here.



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post Mar 28 2016, 11:19 PM

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actually should we have the fasttrack option enabled on our routers ? it seems a lil bit redundant as marked traffics would directly bypass NAT/Firewall ? and QoS would not work...

any proper use case for this feature ? unsure.gif
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post Mar 29 2016, 02:25 AM


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QUOTE(calvin @ Mar 28 2016, 11:19 PM)
actually should we have the fasttrack option enabled on our routers ? it seems a lil bit redundant as marked traffics would directly bypass NAT/Firewall ? and QoS would not work...

any proper use case for this feature ? unsure.gif
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Getting dizzy reading about Fastpath/Fasttrack. Perhaps one might do something like Fasttrack all VOIP traffic while the rest still goes through the normal queues. Or if you're a gamer, Fasttrack your DOTA connections. Something like that.

remeron Earlier I said that the RB951G-2HND won't be good enough for 500mbps but it looks like with Fastpath, it's quite feasible.

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post Mar 29 2016, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 29 2016, 02:25 AM)
Getting dizzy reading about Fastpath/Fasttrack. Perhaps one might do something like Fasttrack all VOIP traffic while the rest still goes through the normal queues. Or if you're a gamer, Fasttrack your DOTA connections. Something like that.

remeron Earlier I said that the RB951G-2HND won't be good enough for 500mbps but it looks like with Fastpath, it's quite feasible.
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so generally speaking.. mangle and mark the connections.. then create a rule to fasttrack them eh ?
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thanks for the all the info. Really appreciate it. I need to read up on fastpath. I have no idea what it is. I'm still considering to get the RB951G. My brother in law is giving me his D-Link DIR-860L. I wonder how both of them stack up with each other.
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If you have AC wireless already, then hEX RB750Gr2 is a better and cheaper choice than RB951G or hAP AC. You will lose out on the flash storage for things like metarouter (unstable crap) though.
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post Mar 30 2016, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(jio @ Mar 29 2016, 04:57 PM)
If you have AC wireless already, then hEX RB750Gr2 is a better and cheaper choice than RB951G or hAP AC. You will lose out on the flash storage for things like metarouter (unstable crap) though.
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That's a good idea. The hex is selling for RM300, which is RM100 cheaper. How do I connect the hex with the AC wireless? I'm really new at this. I mean what kind of setting should I be using with the AC wireless. Now I'm using PPPoE.
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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 30 2016, 09:30 AM)
That's a good idea.  The hex is selling for RM300, which is RM100 cheaper. How do I connect the hex with the AC wireless?  I'm really new at this.  I mean what kind of setting should I be using with the AC wireless.  Now I'm using PPPoE.
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If you only have DIR-860L, then temporary use it as router & PPPoE client. Once you got your mikrotik router or whatever, you will use that as the main router that will handle the PPPoE connection. Then configure DIR-860L as access point & disable the built-in DHCP server as it will be handled by the your main router. Since there is no VLAN to setup, it should be relatively straight forward.
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QUOTE(jio @ Mar 30 2016, 10:31 AM)
If you only have DIR-860L, then temporary use it as router & PPPoE client. Once you got your mikrotik router or whatever, you will use that as the main router that will handle the PPPoE connection. Then configure DIR-860L as access point & disable the built-in DHCP server as it will be handled by the your main router. Since there is no VLAN to setup, it should be relatively straight forward.
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Ah okay, got it. Thanks!
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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 29 2016, 10:55 AM)
@soonwai @jio

thanks for the all the info. Really appreciate it. I need to read up on fastpath.  I have no idea what it is. I'm still considering to get the RB951G.  My brother in law is giving me his D-Link DIR-860L. I wonder how both of them stack up with each other.
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No probs. This is DIR-860L performance from smallnetbuilder but their WAN to LAN test doesn't use PPPoE so actual throughput will probably be less. It would be interesting to see how the DLink does in real life.

Stumbled across this earlier.
Turning a router into an AP (from DLink Forums)
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=40856.0

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post Mar 30 2016, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(soonwai @ Mar 30 2016, 06:40 PM)
No probs. This is DIR-860L performance from smallnetbuilder but their WAN to LAN test doesn't use PPPoE so actual throughput will probably be less. It would be interesting to see how the DLink does in real life.

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Finally got the router from my brother in law, and it's actually DIR-850L, not 860L sad.gif

So far, with LAN, i can achieve about 430mbps down/up with speed test. Wireless, although I don't have the specific tools to measure, just "feeling", it feels slightly sluggish compared to my Asus RT-N12HP. Wireless Speetest with my Macbook 2009, I measured at 95mbps down/up. In terms of router software, it's horrible. Very limited. Don't even have DHCP reservation. DDNS only limits to DYN service. Port forwarding limited to 15 rules.



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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 30 2016, 07:03 PM)
Finally got the router from my brother in law, and it's actually DIR-850L, not 860L sad.gif

So far, with LAN, i can achieve about 430mbps down/up with speed test. Wireless, although I don't have the specific tools to measure, just "feeling", it feels slightly sluggish compared to my Asus RT-N12HP. Wireless Speetest with my Macbook 2009, I measured at 95mbps down/up. In terms of router software, it's horrible.  Very limited.  Don't even have DHCP reservation.  DDNS only limits to DYN service. Port forwarding limited to 15 rules.
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I think that's better. 850L is actually faster, at 900mbps, according to smallnetbuilder.

430mbps is quite good. I assume this is default config? Can you do some tests, if you start turning on features such as QOS or Firewall or even port forwarding, whether it has any effects on the speed of the router.

Did you test your MBP on 2.4 or 5GHz? Cos at 2.4Ghz Macs will only connect at up to 150mbps. (20 Mhz channel width)

If you have a newer model phone which supports AC, try speedtest with that. I managed to get about 370mbps with my iPhone 6S connected to a DAP-1665 AP. edit: To clarify, 370mbps is iPerf test between phone and my Mac, not internet speedtest.

dyndns is actually a fairly good paid only service and once registered for free with DLink devices, you can use it with any router.

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Tested again on the 5Ghz and the MBP reached about 160mbps up/down. Dyndns is not bad except that I have been using namecheap for years and already paid until 0ct 2016 sad.gif

Yes, the LAN speed is satisfying. I only use port forwarding. Tested the wifi with the Huawei Mate 8 (which is suppose to have ac), and the max speedtest is 25mbps. The general feeling I get is the router is good, just that it's not consistent when it comes to wireless throughput. That's a gut feeling though, not based on any measurements. Hehe.

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post Mar 31 2016, 12:22 PM

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anyone know whether in malaysia can get ac lite already? I am eagerly waiting for this.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Mar 31 2016, 12:22 PM)
anyone know whether in malaysia can get ac lite already? I am eagerly waiting for this.
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AFAIK, no one has it locally but honestly, for a router, I'd skip this one because:
1. CPU performance: Good enough for Unifi 30 or 50 maybe even 100 but what if TIME suddenly became available in your area.
2. 100mbit FE ports
3. Single chain 5Ghz

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QUOTE(abubin @ Mar 31 2016, 12:22 PM)
anyone know whether in malaysia can get ac lite already? I am eagerly waiting for this.
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You can get it from ebay seller ubntshop, shipped from oversea. But it only good for up to 100Mbit. Good enough if you only use it for wifi access to your internet, especially if you only have mobile devices. Single chain AC is fast enough to saturate the 100Mbit internet. But don't expect to do so with wifi N devices. If you intend to use the LAN port for network storage, don't. Better spend a bit more on something better.
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QUOTE(remeron @ Mar 31 2016, 10:53 AM)
Tested again on the 5Ghz and the MBP reached about 160mbps up/down.  Dyndns is not bad except that I have been using namecheap for years and already paid until 0ct 2016 sad.gif

Yes, the LAN speed is satisfying. I only use port forwarding. Tested the wifi with the Huawei Mate 8 (which is suppose to have ac), and the max speedtest is 25mbps. The general feeling I get is the router is good, just that it's not consistent when it comes to wireless throughput.  That's a gut feeling though, not based on any measurements.  Hehe.
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I think that's about the same wifi speed I get from my 2010 MBP on 5GHz N copying files from my Mac. I'm using a DLink DAP-1665 AP for my 5GHz N and AC needs.

I'm using Namecheap's DDNS too. I have a script for my Mikrotik that updates Namecheap every time the IP changes and emails me when that happens. As it turns out, it's also good for letting me know when TNB has restored electricity after a blackout or when Unifi comes back from an outage. Mikrotik has its own free DDNS but the domain name is unwieldy. It's like 113305ab2349.sn.mynetname.net but it's free and effortless to setup, just one or maybe 2 clicks. Having 2 DDNS is always good in case one of them is down or isn't updated for whatever reason.

25mbps for the Mate 8 is definitely not good. I get consistent 30mbps on my iPhone 6S on 2.4 or 5Ghz N or AC. No jokes about my UniFi *Advance* 30 please.

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