AFAIK, only the latest 2012 models comes with the new anti-reflective coating... and only ST, GT and VT have them...

I advice you to look at the screen and decide... the reflection is still very obvious esp if your TV is in a bright room or next to a large window or sliding door (esp if you are staying in a condo)... do note that any light source directly opposite the screen will be reflected....

You can try AEON Mid Valley, they have XT50 and ST50 side by side on display, so you can see the immediate difference the new anti reflective coating makes on the PQ... which is a lot to my eyes...

EDIT: its XT50 and not VT... sorry...

This post has been edited by Poadster: Jul 1 2012, 07:03 PM

There is a 55" ST series? How much bro? If compare with 50" ST50 how is it?

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Added on July 1, 2012, 6:39 pmThanks for the info Will try to go there first thing in the morning to check it out

This post has been edited by -kytz-: Jul 1 2012, 06:39 PM

This year ST50 series did a job compare to ST30 big leap in Focused Field Drive 2500hz, color accuracy, deep black level, brightness increased, built in WIFI, web browser and the second generation louver filter is nicely improved so the black level is maintained slightly better this year when the room lights are on so the contrast ratio is acceptable, which is a welcome improvement over previous plasma generations.

So why last year model ST30?
For me plasma below 5k no doubt go to this year much improved Pana 55' ST50 series.

haha. May be I am cheap skate and go for clearance sales product. Would you say this 2012 ST50 is as good as 2012's VT? And how about price wise? Thanks

ST50 will never be as good as the VT50.... but price wise you are getting very good value for the asking price of ST50.... you cant beat the 3999 (50in) or the 5XXX (55in) of the ST50, esp its a built in wifi and 3D model....

I have personally viewed the ST30 and ST50 side by side.... the ST50 wins it in all aspects (color, black level, infinite black filter) and most importantly, price.... some outlets are still selling the ST30 at the same price as the ST50 as sold outside (3999)....

Still, your money, your decision....

Opps. Sorry. Wrong typo.

I meant, would 2012 ST50 be as good as 2011 VT30?

And you mean the 2012 55" ST50 is RM3999?


This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Jul 1 2012, 07:36 PM

Read chungf1's reasons why the ST50 is leaps and bounds better than the ST30... and yes, the 2012 ST50 is much better than the ST30... not the other way around...

3999 applies to P50ST50, the 50incher...

Am curious, how much lower can you get the ST30??

Sorry. I was asking about comparison of
2012 ST50
2011 VT30

Is the ST50 as good as VT30?

Sorry, my mistake...

I cant compare them as I have never seen the VT30 in action, nor have the opportunity to compare them side by side...

But.... if you can believe online reviews.... this writer reviewer have commented that the ST50 PQ is better than the VT30.... read it yourself....

Thanks.

Any idea which have better Anti-Reflection and just as importantly, upscaling ability?

I have seen UT50 and ST50 side by side.... UT50 dont have the Infinite Black panel (anti reflection and a louver design) as have the ST50, and the reflection is pretty bad on the UT50... bearing in mind the specs of both model is very close....

I would gues the VT30 dont have Infinite Black panel (as this is a new 2012 panel feature)... so the reflection could be as per the UT50..... my uneducated guess...

You can try to view the ST50, beside the UT50, at AEON Mid Valley... then you tell us of the diff based on your perspective...

On the issue of upscaling, there is nothing much the panel can do to improve details that are not there in the original source.... SD source will NEVER be upscaled to HD look by any TV or media player.... the best way to view these panels are using native HD or Full HD source....

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Added on July 1, 2012, 8:16 pmOh... if your majority source are SD (TV, normal Astro), getting a smaller plasma (50in) will be better.... the bigger the panel, the lousier the SD pic will look....

This post has been edited by Poadster: Jul 1 2012, 08:16 PM

We got hundreds of channels here, all free from satellite.

Anyone of you guys using a Logitech Z906 for your Home Theatre system?



Oh btw, any idea where to get these stands so that I can angle the satelites horizontally and not at an angle

That depends if you are getting signals from Measat or Thaicom...

If Thaicom, then the bigger panel with HD transmissions will be best... but then, if mainly SD, i still stand firm in the believe that no amount of processing and upscaling will improve the non existant details in the SD source...

Hi Poadster and others,

Any idea what the 'K' at the end of the model number represents, e.g. 20K, 30K and this year 50K. The Panasonic catalogue for 2012 does not have the model number ending in a 'K', but merely TH-P65VT50; TH-P50GT50; TH-P65ST50 and so on. Why? Hope 'K' is not 'kurang' meant for 3rd world countries.

By the way I hope members of this forum would continue to post the price they have seen for the P65ST50 to help us to find a good buy.

Seriouly, I donno.... gotta ask Panasonic for that....

The specs of the TV are the same, so prolly its to identify the market the TV is being sold in...

K for Kurang...

Cash price?

Couldn't find the price for 55inch ST50 , i only know one forumer selling RM3999 for the 50inch ST50 and around 8k for 65inch ST50, anybody care to share some prices they get?

This post has been edited by Bliz: Jul 2 2012, 09:57 AM

That's the price paying using cash or certain credit card such as CIMB (with 6 months repayment 0% interest plan). Going to get it this week.

Thanks for the info, the Senq pricing not that bad

Errr wait. Is it true that Pioneer "sold" their plasma "tech" to Panasonic?