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 Panasonic Viera TV Fan Club V.3, Plasma, LCD & LED models.

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post Sep 19 2011, 11:06 AM, updated 13y ago

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It's time for Version 3.

Version 1 thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1364412
Version 2 thread : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1784549

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post Sep 19 2011, 11:46 AM

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hmm.. okie..
just wondering when the dt30 will be available in malaysia...

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post Sep 19 2011, 05:12 PM

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That's fast, I thought you need to reach 125 pages to start a new version?
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post Sep 19 2011, 05:49 PM

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Went to HN MV no VT30 on display... sad.gif
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post Sep 19 2011, 10:26 PM

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Never seen before in any shop in kl had vt30 on display
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post Sep 21 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Bishop @ Sep 19 2011, 05:49 PM)
Went to HN MV no VT30 on display... sad.gif
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HN always slow in new model.
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post Sep 21 2011, 11:23 AM

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Midvalley Jusco got vt30 and st30
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post Sep 21 2011, 11:53 AM

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Wanted to post my impressions on the U30 that I had the pleasure of calibrating last week.

The improvements over the U20 are better colour accuracy in TrueCinema mode. Blacks are better than the stock U20. Refresh rate of 24p material is 96Hz! The U20 was 60Hz so pulldown was done, this year no pulldown.

The cons were, there is definately some energy savings being hard coded. I could not get the contrast as high as the U20. Also the gamma is not as accurate as the U20.

Will post numbers of the black levels in the black level measurement thread.
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post Sep 21 2011, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 21 2011, 11:53 AM)
Wanted to post my impressions on the U30 that I had the pleasure of calibrating last week.

The improvements over the U20 are better colour accuracy in TrueCinema mode. Blacks are better than the stock U20. Refresh rate of 24p material is 96Hz! The U20 was 60Hz so pulldown was done, this year no pulldown.

The cons were, there is definately some energy savings being hard coded. I could not get the contrast as high as the U20. Also the gamma is not as accurate as the U20.

Will post numbers of the black levels in the black level measurement thread.
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Wow. This is impressive indeed, I thought only the VT30 had proper 24p refresh rate.

Didi you detect any fluctuating brightness or floating blacks in this model?

Gamma is not close to 2.1?
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post Sep 21 2011, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(tim_1335 @ Sep 21 2011, 01:30 PM)
Wow. This is impressive indeed, I thought only the VT30 had proper 24p refresh rate.

Didi you detect any fluctuating brightness or floating blacks in this model?

Gamma is not close to 2.1?
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No I did not detect floating blacks or rising brightness. Gamma was 2.
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post Sep 21 2011, 03:41 PM

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TH-P50VT20K display set for rm5099..is it worth?free 2pcs 3d glass + 3pcs 3d BD..
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post Sep 21 2011, 08:35 PM

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Hi guys,

Im still thinking whether to buy the panasonic plasma U30 unit.

Anyone of you encountered or observed the lagging? I noticed this when it was compared side to side with the 42" UT30 which has 1080 lines moving picture resolution while the u30 has 900 only.

Aside from that UT30 has 24p Smooth/Playback film compared with the U30's 24p Playback only.
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post Sep 21 2011, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(rafurap @ Sep 21 2011, 08:35 PM)
Hi guys,

Im still thinking whether to buy the panasonic plasma U30 unit.

Anyone of you encountered or observed the lagging? I noticed this when it was compared side to side with the 42" UT30 which has 1080 lines moving picture resolution while the u30 has 900 only.

Aside from that UT30 has 24p Smooth/Playback film compared with the U30's 24p Playback only.
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Out of curiosity, can u really make out 900 vs 1080 lines of moving resolution?

I hv tested the U30 and it refreshes 24p at 96Hz. Smooth would mean that there is a motion interpolation option to refresh at 60Hz. I would think refreshing 24p in multiples of 24Hz would be a better picture. If u r looking for motion interpoloation then yes probably there is an extra option on the UT.
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post Sep 21 2011, 11:01 PM

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Emm.. how much is UT30 now ? anfieldude is right 900 vs 1080 are hard to distinguish, it just that UT30 got 3D & viera connect.
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post Sep 22 2011, 01:26 AM

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Got my P65VT30.

After using it for a few days, these are my initial impressions:

1) It is a great TV with superb images and 3D performance.
2) So far I have not had any fluctuating brightness issues for my July 2011 manufactured TV.
3) Unlike my previous 42" Panny Plasma which was good to go straight out of the box, this TV has to be calibrated to produce better colours and performance.
4) Network Streaming and Viera Connect are really impressive. Works well out of the box and has really great potential. I am using UNIFI 5MB, and am streaming movies from the net at pretty good quality without buffering.
5) I will be skyping via the TV from now on as it is such a cool feature and so great to use.

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 21 2011, 10:03 PM)
Out of curiosity, can u really make out 900 vs 1080 lines of moving resolution?

I hv tested the U30 and it refreshes 24p at 96Hz. Smooth would mean that there is a motion interpolation option to refresh at 60Hz. I would think refreshing 24p in multiples of 24Hz would be a better picture. If u r looking for motion interpoloation then yes probably there is an extra option on the UT.
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Hi,

Appreciate your feedback. Perhaps most of the time you wont be able to distinguished it. But I really noticed the lag when some parts of the DEMO display is playing the scene where it's slowly capturing the Model Cars (bright colors) in the movie.

Again, it was side to side comparison against UT30. And the UT30 handles it very well. Try and see it at best denki Suria KLCC. =)

Thanks and Regards,

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post Sep 22 2011, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(rafurap @ Sep 22 2011, 02:40 AM)
Hi,

Appreciate your feedback. Perhaps most of the time you wont be able to distinguished it. But I really noticed the lag when some parts of the DEMO display is playing the scene where it's slowly capturing the Model Cars (bright colors) in the movie.

Again, it was side to side comparison against UT30. And the UT30 handles it very well. Try and see it at best denki Suria KLCC. =)

Thanks and Regards,
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if there was lag on a blu ray then something is wrongly setup. Lag is something that is for games. Where they using a splitter? Both being fed the same source? Was the source playing at 24p?

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post Sep 22 2011, 12:26 PM

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Both having the same source.. I know some forum members had also experienced this issue
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post Sep 22 2011, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(rafurap @ Sep 22 2011, 12:26 PM)
Both having the same source.. I know some forum members had also experienced this issue
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Ok, I think before there is miscommunication between what I am saying and what I think u r saying let me explain.

24p material is low frame rate, the motion will never be silky smooth even if it is refreshed at 96Hz. The higher the refresh rate, under normal circumstances, the smoother the motion. However, in my opinion there is a threshold. Anything above 72Hz refresh rate of 24p material ie 96Hz and above looks closer to video than film. This can be clearly seen in the end credits where the text is moving up/down....

Now, if there is motion interpolation algorithms that add frames while doing pulldown and then refreshing it at 60Hz or multiples of it (ie the smooth thing that u mention), will seem to show smoother motion. However, even the best of algorithms will introduce motion artefacts. If u watch close enuf, u will some some tearing or some sort of issue. This is more apparent in bigger monitors. Motion interpolation not done well will make film look like video shots.

If refreshing of 24p is done without motion interpolation at 60Hz via 3:2 pulldown, then there will be judder.

I am not sure what u mean but lag, but it shd be one of the 3 above.

However, if u feel the UT30 in smooth mode is giving u better motion smoothness, then go for it. Ur eyes are the ultimate test, if u like it then its right for u.
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post Sep 22 2011, 04:23 PM

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what is the price for UT30 nowaday ? (ask for the 2nd time)

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