Ha...you are right. My bad eyes are playing tricks on me.

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Added on August 28, 2012, 12:11 pmAnyone has received their Raya promotion gifts already or are you still waiting?

I've yet to received mine. Been pestering the promoter for the last few weeks before Raya, but he said only very few stock had arrived.

This post has been edited by allycat: Aug 28 2012, 12:11 PM

I'm watching my 65ST from 3m away and it no longer wows me when it comes to 3D.

Bro Stringfellow,
Just to confirm, was it within 2 feet when you sync the glasses?

Another thing, I did not need any 3D content when syncing my glasses.

Hmmmm......then must be some defect as I synched very easily with either battery and rechargeable types. Maybe the batteries are weak.

some not even 24 hours......my board A

This post has been edited by allycat: Sep 11 2012, 04:19 PM

IMHO, Avatar 3D is the best 3D material to-date. None of the later 3D movies can showcase the 3D effects that enhances the enjoyment of a movie. Not only were there in-your-face effects, but James Cameron even extends the movie's environment into the audience area. Later 3D movies only extend the perception of depth and height.

So far I've watched it thrice on my ST50.

Get VT50, bro.

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Added on September 12, 2012, 12:08 pmI should think so but I haven't got the movies yet, although I've watched them in the cinema. As you know, I'm always outdated

This post has been edited by allycat: Sep 12 2012, 12:08 PM

Okay, hopefully this is the last update and conclusion on my ST50 problem, and I can move on to calibration and fixing the LT lights.

Pana guys brought over a new set for side-by-side comparison. They have tested and aged their set in Pana premises.

Again they are really professional guys. Brought all their tools that enabled a real side-by-side comparison. We tested by using their demo BDs and LOTR ROTK.

As expected, there were better PQ on their set. There were many differences but I shall mention only 2 of them. These 2 show the most obvious differences. One of them was have a turning motion, and the other with panning motion.

On the turning motion, it was an engine block turning. The rough surface of the engine block was sharp and distinct on their set, but it was smeared out on mine.

On the panning scenes, grass was more distinct on their set, whereas it was more indistinct on mine.

With the LTOR RTOK, the faces were much better.

After 2.5 hours of testing and blurry eyes and friendly "challenges", we agreed that my ST50 was problematic. So we agree to swap the sets.

I haven't tested it intensiively yet as I was off to nature the next day. But first looks show that most of the problems I saw was gone. I shall do more testing these few nights.

If you want to check your set's PQ, I can share one tip. Test your set with slow moving scenes or panning scenes esp with small items. eg. grainy items, grasses etc. You can really see a lot of difference in the PQ. If you set is okay, the small items should be distinct and not smeared out.

IMHO, fast moving scenes do not really enable you to detect the flaws of the set's PQ. Due to the speed, your eye may not register the defects or you may not even realize there is a defect.

Like I said, hopefully all will be fine now.

Hi Anfieldude,
Much thanks for your last visit to check out my set.

In all the rewinding and rewinding and challenging each other's eye sight, we forgot all about the TDK scene. Also I guess everyone was hungry already as it was dinner time when we concluded the testing.

And for the rolling credits, we did talk about it but, again, it sliiped our mind.

Wah, now that you mentioned it, seems like we really forgot to test a few things.
I must go back and test it tonite.

No Astro 3D leh

Funny thing is I cannot see any 3D problems in my previous ST50. Motion was smooth and PQ was sharp with very vibrant colours. No ghosting or cross-talk.

I think its's QA problem. Such problems as my board A and Stringfellow's bluetooth problems should not be happening if they really checked before sending the completed sets to warehouse.

Bro,
Is it 2.225 or 2.229? I can onle see 2.225 in Pana's website.

Ahhh.....not my eyes problem

BTW, can I update via USB? Website says to use SD media.

Tks, Bro.

Wi-fi......hahahahha.....soon.

I tested last night. No patch at all. But it seems that this year's model easily get IR.

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Added on September 20, 2012, 9:48 amCan update via USB. I managed to do it last night.

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Added on September 20, 2012, 9:59 amHi Anfieldude,
Ok, I did futher tests with LOTR ROTK and TDK last night.

LOTR ROTK
As I said, all charaters' faces were much improved. The graininess and speckles were tremendously reduced even when I set 24p smooth to mid level. The rolling credits were very much smoother although there is still a little bit of judder with 24p smooth turned off.

TDK
The building windows panning scenes were more distinct. However I belive it contributes to me seeing more distortion. My last set have less distortion but then I believed it was smeared out. As for the abseiling sceene, it was too fast for me to catch. Maybe need your faster eyes to catch it when you calibrate my set.
My eyes maybe sharp but not that fast

Astro
Everything is very much improved. BTW, I want to ask something on the Byond box. Is it upscaling the 720p to 1080i? Or are the shows native 1080i? The Byond manual doesn't provide any info rgdg upscaling.

This post has been edited by allycat: Sep 20 2012, 09:59 AM

I understand but I cannot clarify as it may get that person into trouble. Pana guys are also reading this thread

Correct me if I'm wrong, but QA and QC are different things, right? I believe the recent problems are more due to QA as they were not properly tested before certifying as good.

From my previous experience with set makers many years ago, they usually test all functions and picture reproduction before warehousing the completed sets. I don't know if this has changed with today's TV manufacturing process.

Haaaa.....the "tolerance' word"............it was used very frquently during my testing sessions with Pana guys. But it was used in the performance context.

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Added on September 20, 2012, 9:22 pmGet another 2 pairs of eyes to confirm. If 2 out of 3 says there's a patch, call Pana and have them come over to check your set.

This post has been edited by allycat: Sep 20 2012, 09:22 PM

Watched "The American" and "SH: Game of Shadows" yesterday. So far the ST50 looks good for these two shows.

TA has a lot of scenery wtih mountains, grasses, old buidlings. I could not detect any defects in this movie. It's quite a slow moving movie with many skin scenes. The skin tones and complexion shows up very well.

As for SH:GOS, there were many dark and action scenes. And they look good on the ST50.

As for Astro, it's still here and there. Although it is much improved, I still wish it could be better. Some HD channels/show have juddering problems. I guess this is because of the ST50 limitations.

This post has been edited by allycat: Sep 24 2012, 11:35 AM

Get Oppo-93.

Yes Oppo-103 is coming. But still can get Oppo-93 locally.

Oppo-103 may not be suitable for Jack Sparrows as I beleive it will come with Cinavia.