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rafurap
post Sep 21 2011, 08:35 PM

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Hi guys,

Im still thinking whether to buy the panasonic plasma U30 unit.

Anyone of you encountered or observed the lagging? I noticed this when it was compared side to side with the 42" UT30 which has 1080 lines moving picture resolution while the u30 has 900 only.

Aside from that UT30 has 24p Smooth/Playback film compared with the U30's 24p Playback only.
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post Sep 22 2011, 02:40 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 21 2011, 10:03 PM)
Out of curiosity, can u really make out 900 vs 1080 lines of moving resolution?

I hv tested the U30 and it refreshes 24p at 96Hz. Smooth would mean that there is a motion interpolation option to refresh at 60Hz. I would think refreshing 24p in multiples of 24Hz would be a better picture. If u r looking for motion interpoloation then yes probably there is an extra option on the UT.
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Hi,

Appreciate your feedback. Perhaps most of the time you wont be able to distinguished it. But I really noticed the lag when some parts of the DEMO display is playing the scene where it's slowly capturing the Model Cars (bright colors) in the movie.

Again, it was side to side comparison against UT30. And the UT30 handles it very well. Try and see it at best denki Suria KLCC. =)

Thanks and Regards,

This post has been edited by rafurap: Sep 22 2011, 04:40 AM
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post Sep 22 2011, 12:26 PM

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Both having the same source.. I know some forum members had also experienced this issue
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post Sep 22 2011, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 22 2011, 03:48 PM)
Ok, I think before there is miscommunication between what I am saying and what I think u r saying let me explain.

24p material is low frame rate, the motion will never be silky smooth even if it is refreshed at 96Hz. The higher the refresh rate, under normal circumstances, the smoother the motion. However, in my opinion there is a threshold. Anything above 72Hz refresh rate of 24p material ie 96Hz and above looks closer to video than film. This can be clearly seen in the end credits where the text is moving up/down....

Now, if there is motion interpolation algorithms that add frames while doing pulldown and then refreshing it at 60Hz or multiples of it (ie the smooth thing that u mention), will seem to show smoother motion. However, even the best of algorithms will introduce motion artefacts. If u watch close enuf, u will some some tearing or some sort of issue. This is more apparent in bigger monitors. Motion interpolation not done well will make film look like video shots.

If refreshing of 24p is done without motion interpolation at 60Hz via 3:2 pulldown, then there will be judder.

I am not sure what u mean but lag, but it shd be one of the 3 above.

However, if u feel the UT30 in smooth mode is giving u better motion smoothness, then go for it. Ur eyes are the ultimate test, if u like it then its right for u.
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Thanks again for your feedback. Looking on the brighter side, do you think the 50" U30 is a best buy? What do you like about it?
It's sad that Panasonic will not release the 50" version of the UT30 here in MY.
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post Sep 22 2011, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Sep 22 2011, 08:51 PM)
I like the more accurate colours in TrueCinema. I like the 96Hz refresh rate for 24p material.

I am not thrilled about the black levels and I believe Panasonic selected the hardcoding of the gamma of 2.0 due to the not so great black levels. Yet at the price its going for, its a decent 1080p set.
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in short you like the u30's?
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post Sep 23 2011, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(tepetlah @ Sep 23 2011, 06:23 PM)
Just bought TH-P50U30k yesterday..experience it to the max starting this weekend..Re-watch all my BD..smile.gif
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That's great! Let us know your experience with it next week! I still cannot decide if to buy that or the 42" UT30k.
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post Sep 24 2011, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(onlymac @ Sep 23 2011, 11:31 PM)
No... you  can pick up this set brand new from sellers here on LYN for same price (1pc glasses, 1pc skypecam, 1pc 3d BD) ... also, if you look around here you can find excellent good price on set + 4pc glasses. Don't ever buy a display set, not worth it.
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you can check the availability of this unit with @iamsobloodysick. I think he has the most competitive price of all.

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post Oct 6 2011, 12:06 AM

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hi, anyone knows where i can buy LED tube light to make my home theater room with ambient lighting? how much?

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