US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter
US stock discussion v4, Bulls-Bears HUAT AH!! Pigs get slaughter
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Nov 14 2012, 08:57 AM
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Looks like latest trend is buy at opening, sell at european close, then buy back at close.
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Nov 14 2012, 11:00 AM
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I just read that AAPL just recently won the patent its rectangular shape and rounded edge iPADs.
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-ipad-...nt-2012-11?op=1 So, if any makers of other tablets try to make their tablet shaped like AAPL, they will be sued... How absurd...indeed. Added on November 15, 2012, 12:09 amTesting SP500 1363-1365 short term floor tonight...7% correction from top. Early bulls probably step in.. Added on November 15, 2012, 4:30 amObama speaks again.. bulls abandoned positions.. bears took over. $SPX= 1358... going lower. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Nov 15 2012, 04:31 AM |
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Nov 15 2012, 08:29 AM
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:45 PM) Greetings + G'Day, Greetngs + G'Day,I think, CASH will be KING again in 1st and 2nd Qtr of year 2013.. Adviced my friends/colleagues to lock profits after 2 weeks QE3 annoucement, to sell all non-performing USA stocks, put the CASH in FD @ monthly rate for 6-8 mths and continue to hold good blue-chips dividend counters. My US-based MNC company business order/demand drop 30% per last qrtr and 45% per last 2 qrtr while my friend US-based MNC company business order/demand drop more than 60%.. Many US companies HOLD their orders/investment and to watch how fiscal cliff will take affect beginning year 2013... Hence, the earnings/financial reporting for next coming 2 qrtrs will be disappointed and usually, weak earnings = market slump = VIX > 30pts = CASH is KING.. Poor Earnings will leads to cost cuttings, unemployment, conservative/pessimism business, weak investor confidence and ..etc Best MEGA SALES picks for past 5 years were 6th March and 9th March 2009. Hope it will repeat again and everyone hope to get good MEGA Sales Discount. Optimism of X'Mas and New Year 2013 Sales will be opposite. Worry = Recession in US for 1st/2nd Qrtr and Rating Agencies(Moody, S&P, Fitch) downgrade USA Debt Grade level. Have a great day. I think, lock profit will be ideal case b4 too late to exit.. Main Worry = 1) Recession in US for next 1st and 2nd Qrtr in year 2013 and 2) Rating Agencies(Moody, S&P, Fitch) downgrade USA Debt Grade level. Fiscal Cliff agenda = Reduce Country Deficits / Debt per GDP ratio which seen good positive for long-run, but the economy will be flat/stagnation/deflation(smiliar to Japan) for long run. Slow inflation may be good for the US economy. Have a great day. This post has been edited by netmask8: Nov 15 2012, 10:27 AM |
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Nov 15 2012, 08:41 AM
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Ultimate short squeeze on FB +13%
Time to enter the short again |
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Nov 15 2012, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Nov 15 2012, 08:41 AM) Aisha...didn't pay attention to FB, seems like I missed a good squeeze run .... UP again..... Only thing didn't tank overnight is Crude oil. Darn the Israelis causing spike again in Oil market. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Nov 15 2012, 09:19 AM |
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Nov 15 2012, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 14 2012, 11:00 AM) Added on November 15, 2012, 4:30 amObama speaks again.. bulls abandoned positions.. bears took over. $SPX= 1358... going lower. any opinion on the fiscal cliff? Is there any way that US can do anything to turn the table around? or else it would be just downfall as taxing for biz increase~~ Added on November 15, 2012, 9:34 amOh HD tanked 3%???? This post has been edited by theboringguy: Nov 15 2012, 09:37 AM |
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Nov 15 2012, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(theboringguy @ Nov 15 2012, 09:35 AM) Seriously, once Obama speaks..... Greetings + G'Day,any opinion on the fiscal cliff? Is there any way that US can do anything to turn the table around? or else it would be just downfall as taxing for biz increase~~ Added on November 15, 2012, 9:34 amOh HD tanked 3%???? Compromise Solution between Republicans and Democrats politicians on tax,spending ..etc..etc will be ideal solution since the White House(President) and Senate(Dewan Negara) = Democrats, while Congress(Dewan Rakyat) = Republican. If otherwise, the automatic tax hike and spending cuts and others which agreed by Mr. President,Congress Speaker and both senior party representatives(which passed through Congress votes, Senate votes and with Obama's signature) will take affect in year 2013. Read ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_cliff_debate .. My feeling is = Rating Agencies(Moody, S&P and Fitch) will cut USA Debt/Credit Rating Grade again in year 2013(Patience wait for the Opportunity). Prefer long term investment and fundamental analysis. Patience is Bitter, but its fruit is sweet. Have a great day. This post has been edited by netmask8: Nov 15 2012, 11:44 AM |
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Nov 15 2012, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(theboringguy @ Nov 15 2012, 09:35 AM) Seriously, once Obama speaks..... HD - $64.. 21 P/E valuation too high already, must take profit-lah! any opinion on the fiscal cliff? Is there any way that US can do anything to turn the table around? or else it would be just downfall as taxing for biz increase~~ Added on November 15, 2012, 9:34 amOh HD tanked 3%???? Come back down to $55-$60, then it will be bid up again. As for fiscal cliff.. knowing how they do things.. it may be the eleventh hour. or they'll just let it happen to scare the sh** out of wall street, then after Jan 1st, Obama will announce.. hey we got a solution. Market rally like mad bulls. I would like to see $SPX drops to 1255-1275 first.. to purge all the weak hands. |
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Nov 15 2012, 10:57 PM
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Aapl koyak resumes
Any knife catcher here? |
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Nov 15 2012, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(Myoswee @ Nov 15 2012, 10:57 PM) Not me.. I used up my gloves last week. Got a minor cut but healed back after some PUTs play. Now, just watching. It (AAPL) hits another low after breaking the 535 floor. If 525 cannot hold, than last chance is 515-518 (May low). Otherwise it will be waterfall. There may be a good chance for capitulation soon. LVS -> $40.xx it's looks like attractive again.. Added on November 16, 2012, 12:22 amHoardes of bears are at AAPL 525 gate now.. trying to knock this down. This post has been edited by danmooncake: Nov 16 2012, 12:22 AM |
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Nov 16 2012, 02:04 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 14 2012, 11:00 AM) I just read that AAPL just recently won the patent its rectangular shape and rounded edge iPADs. nah, only US court thinks so, because few hundred million income from APPLE, sure lor support 'em.http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-ipad-...nt-2012-11?op=1 So, if any makers of other tablets try to make their tablet shaped like AAPL, they will be sued... Money can buy the outright win. |
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Nov 16 2012, 05:12 AM
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500 coming...
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Nov 16 2012, 09:17 AM
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Greetings + G'Day,
US economy is largely supported by consumption (70%) + it is not possible to recovery if Unemployment rate remains 7.8% high. Weak Economy, huge print money/debts, low treasuries bond demand + euro %$#$@ , recession just started again + expected market bottom in 1st half 2013. CASH will be King again. World 5 strongest currency would be CAD, AUD, SGD, RMB + CHF. CAD and AUD are backed by commodities while SGD, RMB + CHF hv strong reserves. VIX 30pts = Pour in 30% of $$ in market VIX 35pts = Pour in another 30% $$ in market VIX 40pts = Pour in final 30% $$ in market VIX 45pts and above = Show Hand last final 10% $$ FORMULA = 30, 30, 30 and 10 = 100% of yr CASH http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBOE_Volatility_Index Short to Medium Term Investment VIX = 35pts to 50pts Masuk due to Fearful mode VIX = 20pts and below Keluar due to Greedy mode Special Extraordinary Note VIX = 50pts and above Another doom crisis is coming .. May see another “century / life-time” opportunity coming again ?? Very hardly. Own opinion, Own Decision, Own Action. Note:- Do not follow the above. Thank you. |
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Nov 16 2012, 10:57 AM
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Nov 16 2012, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Nov 16 2012, 09:17 AM) Greetings + G'Day, InterestingUS economy is largely supported by consumption (70%) + it is not possible to recovery if Unemployment rate remains 7.8% high. Weak Economy, huge print money/debts, low treasuries bond demand + euro %$#$@ , recession just started again + expected market bottom in 1st half 2013. CASH will be King again. World 5 strongest currency would be CAD, AUD, SGD, RMB + CHF. CAD and AUD are backed by commodities while SGD, RMB + CHF hv strong reserves. VIX 30pts = Pour in 30% of $$ in market VIX 35pts = Pour in another 30% $$ in market VIX 40pts = Pour in final 30% $$ in market VIX 45pts and above = Show Hand last final 10% $$ FORMULA = 30, 30, 30 and 10 = 100% of yr CASH http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBOE_Volatility_Index Short to Medium Term Investment VIX = 35pts to 50pts Masuk due to Fearful mode VIX = 20pts and below Keluar due to Greedy mode Special Extraordinary Note VIX = 50pts and above Another doom crisis is coming .. May see another “century / life-time” opportunity coming again ?? Very hardly. Own opinion, Own Decision, Own Action. Note:- Do not follow the above. Thank you. http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EVIX+...urce=undefined; |
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Nov 16 2012, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Nov 16 2012, 09:17 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Own opinion, Own Decision, Own Action. Note:- Do not follow the above. Thank you. Added on November 16, 2012, 11:51 am QUOTE(prophetjul @ Nov 16 2012, 11:05 AM) Have you noticed that too? This time around the good old fear indicator $VIX is not useful anymore... This post has been edited by danmooncake: Nov 16 2012, 11:51 AM |
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Nov 16 2012, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 16 2012, 11:50 AM) Have you noticed that too? This time around the good old fear indicator $VIX is not useful anymore... VIX is referred as the fear index(or the fear gauge), it represents one measure of the market's expectation of stock market volatility. IMHO, it is still an useful fear factor level to decide whether to enter or exit the market. For the past 5 years, the opposite reverses between VIX and S&P 500 chart are quite significant. http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/VIX/tab/2 Have a great day. |
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Nov 16 2012, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Nov 16 2012, 12:39 PM) Greetings + G'Day, Of course.. knew that years ago $VIX has inverse relationship with the general index. VIX is referred as the fear index(or the fear gauge), it represents one measure of the market's expectation of stock market volatility. IMHO, it is still an useful fear factor level to decide whether to enter or exit the market. For the past 5 years, the opposite reverses between VIX and S&P 500 chart are quite significant. http://data.cnbc.com/quotes/VIX/tab/2 Have a great day. But I am saying this time around..(just during the past 6 weeks of downturn) has anyone notice that $VIX been pretty stagnant while the market continues downwards. |
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Nov 16 2012, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Nov 16 2012, 08:53 PM) Of course.. knew that years ago $VIX has inverse relationship with the general index. Yeap, Perhaps I think it is due to QE3 .. Hardly seeing VIX raise above 20pts unlike in year 2010 and 2011 respectively.But I am saying this time around..(just during the past 6 weeks of downturn) has anyone notice that $VIX been pretty stagnant while the market continues downwards. |
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Nov 16 2012, 09:52 PM
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Indicators 1 ) Trendline - below the downtrend line .. ( Bearish ) 2) Support/Resistance - Formed lower low and lower high ( Bearish ) 3) MACD -Bearish Crossover ( Bearish ) . Awaiting for 4R1G signal 4) RSI - Broken below 30% (Bearish) , 5) STO - Broke below 20% and bearish crossover (Bearish) 6) Ichimoku - a) Price coming entering from the support cloud (Bearish). b) Conversion line below the base line (Bearish). c) Price close below the baseline ( Bearish) . 7) Candlestick pattern - Black Candle (Bearish). 8) Market Sentiment - Negative from USA 600B Fiscal Worries Refer link Conclusion: Bearish Yesterday it closed with a spinning top on the support line. It is a 50 - 50 whether it will rebound or break below the support line.. Resistance- 12716 / 12794 / 12964 / 13057 / 13134 / 13335 / 13583 Support - 12531 / 12314 / 12237 / 11757 / 11649 Attached thumbnail(s) |
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