Noted and well said
I am preparing for Global Recession, Be cash rich
I am preparing for Global Recession, Be cash rich
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Sep 8 2011, 12:55 AM
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Noted and well said
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Sep 8 2011, 02:17 AM
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Sep 8 2011, 07:47 AM
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QUOTE(keelim @ Sep 7 2011, 08:10 AM) In the looming recession it is best for equity investors to reposition their shaeholding into financial and utilities stock. The past 4 recessions had taught investors to stick with reits and banks. I don't understand why forumers are advising people to flee the property market. Methinks its not time to reposition into finance stocks.A recession means these stocks will suffer.............buy DURING the recession when they are killed.......... They will get killed because the property mkt will get killed........aka U.S in 2008. Property mkt is almost always last to tank before a recession.......watch out for China When property mkt get killed the speculators will become defunct.......... This post has been edited by prophetjul: Sep 8 2011, 07:50 AM |
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Sep 8 2011, 08:44 AM
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Sep 8 2011, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 07:47 AM) Methinks its not time to reposition into finance stocks. Yup yup - just like horror-slashers, ALWAYS wait and ensure the body of the killer is indeed dead before "jumping in".A recession means these stocks will suffer.............buy DURING the recession when they are killed.......... They will get killed because the property mkt will get killed........aka U.S in 2008. Property mkt is almost always last to tank before a recession.......watch out for China When property mkt get killed the speculators will become defunct.......... Best to "shoot a few small shots" into the dead body (market) to ensure it's dead / flat-lined before "jumping in" Sorry - too much slasher movies in my younger & dumber daze This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 8 2011, 09:18 AM |
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Sep 8 2011, 09:23 AM
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Instead of recession, i think better to look forward for what will be happening to Malaysia in the year 2019..
Dont forget about the prediction those people made before.. We can see that:- a) Inflation is running high; b) Unemployment is fetching up; c) Gov Expenditure getting more; d) And, I believe certain Gov policy were also costly to be implemented.. Better be cautious for this.. Though they keep denying about this, from those above elements, it is possible to happen.. |
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Sep 8 2011, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 8 2011, 09:23 AM) Instead of recession, i think better to look forward for what will be happening to Malaysia in the year 2019.. True true - however those are things that we can affect little other than through our VOTES or via our legs (walking out).Dont forget about the prediction those people made before.. We can see that:- a) Inflation is running high; b) Unemployment is fetching up; c) Gov Expenditure getting more; d) And, I believe certain Gov policy were also costly to be implemented.. Better be cautious for this.. Though they keep denying about this, from those above elements, it is possible to happen.. Personally, my focus is on my OWN economy, not the country's or the world's. U'd be surprised that a few fellows in US are "enjoying the problems" of 2008 and up till now as their personal economy was incredibly fit & healthy, thus it's like a mega sales for them This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Sep 8 2011, 09:49 AM |
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Sep 8 2011, 09:37 AM
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Sep 8 2011, 09:39 AM
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Sep 8 2011, 10:08 AM
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With dividend? when times are bad, are you sure you can still yield the same dividend return? Or unless you're talking about FD...maybe possible...
QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 7 2011, 03:49 AM) |
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Sep 8 2011, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 09:39 AM) National NewsI dont think cutting the subsidies is enough, there are many things that cannot be avoided.. According to www.transparency.org, our Corruption Perceptions Index is 4.4, while Singapore is 9.3, better than us.. Country recession and our country highly debt issue, i think highly debt issue is the worse part.. |
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Sep 8 2011, 10:46 AM
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How about bond funds? It is going to survive through the recession? im talking about asean n malaysia bonds. not euro or US.
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Sep 8 2011, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 8 2011, 10:39 AM) National News Thats what happened to U.S............highly geared DEBT...... methinks our paternalisticI dont think cutting the subsidies is enough, there are many things that cannot be avoided.. According to www.transparency.org, our Corruption Perceptions Index is 4.4, while Singapore is 9.3, better than us.. Country recession and our country highly debt issue, i think highly debt issue is the worse part.. attitude of our politics has made it too late to turn around. Just look at the population of civil servants.........last estimate at 1.6mil. Our pop is only around 27mil....do you need 1 civil servant to serve 17 people? next, if our attitude of deficit spending is not reeled in, EPF will be kaput............... see the thread in real world section |
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Sep 8 2011, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(keelim @ Sep 7 2011, 08:10 AM) In the looming recession it is best for equity investors to reposition their shaeholding into financial and utilities stock. The past 4 recessions had taught investors to stick with reits and banks. I don't understand why forumers are advising people to flee the property market. Could you please elaborate more ? |
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Sep 8 2011, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 10:48 AM) Thats what happened to U.S............highly geared DEBT...... methinks our paternalistic Heheh - bro, politicians live in bolehland lar, not real world attitude of our politics has made it too late to turn around. Just look at the population of civil servants.........last estimate at 1.6mil. Our pop is only around 27mil....do you need 1 civil servant to serve 17 people? next, if our attitude of deficit spending is not reeled in, EPF will be kaput............... see the thread in real world section No bolehland thread/topic for politicians to share share in LYN? Or perhaps their stuff cannot stand the light of day in public? |
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Sep 8 2011, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(mois @ Sep 8 2011, 10:46 AM) How about bond funds? It is going to survive through the recession? im talking about asean n malaysia bonds. not euro or US. If you are buying Malaysia bonds, you are facing credit risks.. During that time, your bonds are hard to sell..Added on September 8, 2011, 2:51 pm QUOTE(prophetjul @ Sep 8 2011, 10:48 AM) Thats what happened to U.S............highly geared DEBT...... methinks our paternalistic Bravo, good quote about the statistics of 1 civil servant serving 17 people..attitude of our politics has made it too late to turn around. Just look at the population of civil servants.........last estimate at 1.6mil. Our pop is only around 27mil....do you need 1 civil servant to serve 17 people? next, if our attitude of deficit spending is not reeled in, EPF will be kaput............... see the thread in real world section Well, its not that i want to say we private sectors are good, but we can really see the poor service from the gov agencies.. Last few days i made a call to follow up with a government agency, and guess what? They did not even intended to answer the phone.. Even after answer the phone, they talk fiercely.. If the government keep on rising the salary of those pension people, even declared bonus, sorry la, how long can our country stand? Imagine average all those pensioners can live a long live, then all the pensioners are creditors to the country... This post has been edited by smartinvestor01: Sep 8 2011, 02:51 PM |
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Sep 8 2011, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 8 2011, 02:46 PM) If you are buying Malaysia bonds, you are facing credit risks.. During that time, your bonds are hard to sell.. I bought bond funds from public mutual. Are you saying that i cannot sell my bond funds if there is credit risks? Because im not buying a particular bond, it is bond funds. So i guess there is no problem to sell through public mutual if got credit risk right? |
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Sep 8 2011, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Sep 8 2011, 02:46 PM) If you are buying Malaysia bonds, you are facing credit risks.. During that time, your bonds are hard to sell.. Reminds me of the "entitlement" mentality 'ala Greece, which makes USA's problem sup sup water in terms of Debt/GDP Added on September 8, 2011, 2:51 pm Bravo, good quote about the statistics of 1 civil servant serving 17 people.. Well, its not that i want to say we private sectors are good, but we can really see the poor service from the gov agencies.. Last few days i made a call to follow up with a government agency, and guess what? They did not even intended to answer the phone.. Even after answer the phone, they talk fiercely.. If the government keep on rising the salary of those pension people, even declared bonus, sorry la, how long can our country stand? Imagine average all those pensioners can live a long live, then all the pensioners are creditors to the country... |
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Sep 8 2011, 04:44 PM
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dunno how real the impact will be here, as forecast on car sales will peak in coming 2 mths and mx out in dec 2011. more ppl are rushing to buy more cars
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Sep 8 2011, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 8 2011, 10:08 AM) With dividend? when times are bad, are you sure you can still yield the same dividend return? Or unless you're talking about FD...maybe possible... kevyeoh,So, I still can last at least 2 years without selling and without income. What is YOUR NUMBER?? How long can you last without income and not selling anything?? Dreamer |
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